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Old 02-08-2011, 10:57 AM   #121
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I'm gonna get the calipers out tonight and measure every driveshaft I have and make some notes. I have no interest in going down in ujoint sizes....I'm thinking about swapping out the yoke on the rearend for something else that will be easier to fix if something happens.
Let me know if you find something that works.. I searched high and low and to my knowledge there was no replacement for the ford flat flange yoke..

You wouldn't be going down in u joint size. You still have a 1310 joint, it just looks as if it has extended cups for some reason.. never come across one like that in any jeep I have ever worked on..

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Old 02-08-2011, 10:58 AM   #122
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I've found a 1350 regular yoke I am looking at.....would rather have a 1410 but haven't found that yet

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Old 02-08-2011, 02:17 PM   #123
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Old 02-08-2011, 02:20 PM   #124
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Haha thats awesome ^^^

Too bad your up in PA, you could come down and pop some corn to go with the beer lol
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Old 02-08-2011, 03:44 PM   #125
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Cold beer ! I may have to take a road trip.LOL
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Old 02-08-2011, 03:46 PM   #126
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Come on down I have plenty of room
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Old 02-08-2011, 04:07 PM   #127
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Thanks ,but I couldnt ever get away with it .got to much to do,just found out I got a serious water problem in my new garage the tectonic plates must have shifted .Im on a freaking hill and me and my 3 neighbors are getting a ton of water .its not city water either .this the first time Im happy I dont have my floor in yet.
sorry to get off topic just a little wigged out
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Old 02-08-2011, 04:15 PM   #128
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Man that sucks, sorry to hear that
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Old 02-08-2011, 05:20 PM   #129
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on top of that ,its going down to 6 tonight
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:52 PM   #130
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I totally forgot to mic the joints on the shafts...whoops. Anyway after a ton of phone calls as usual I got back to work on the wishbone.

Notching the stub piece between the bar and the joint


Stub piece tacked


Checking notch fitment



Here's a tip...when welding something that has threads on or in it, coat it with weld antispatter gel. It will melt off when it gets hot and keep slag from messing up the threads.


I primered the end so I could paint it tomorrow and assemble the joint. This way I will be able to position the wishbone under the jeep and make my final cuts on the back of it, finish weld it, and paint it without having to take it apart again.
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so the wish bone will control wheel hop and still let the rearend articulate?
NICE JOB!
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Old 02-09-2011, 09:07 AM   #132
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Yessir you are correct Been building them in one fashion or another since the very first SOA I did back in 94
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:05 PM   #133
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:14 PM   #134
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hmm know where might that be connecting to? never seen that set up be4
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:30 PM   #135
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hmm know where might that be connecting to? never seen that set up be4
The rear axle and the t-case skid plate most likely.
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:33 PM   #136
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on the top or button of the rear axle?
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:41 PM   #137
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Old 02-09-2011, 08:41 PM   #138
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I cant wait to see how this turns out
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Old 02-10-2011, 10:10 AM   #139
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I am making a new crossmember (see pics) that will bolt up behind the skidplate. It will attach below the centerline of the rear axle. If it was attached on top it wouldn't do a thing (ask me how I know lol). I would have more pics today but I'm having to drop back and punt today as dad is considering an atlas, so I might be redoing the x-member again
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Old 02-10-2011, 10:27 AM   #140
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Great write up and great skills. Thanks for showing the way. I bought my 16 year old daughter a 93, then bought a 95 for me and the wife. Learning all kinds of great info. My daughters 4wd went south during this last snow here in MO, but traced it to a vac. line Now my clutch is acting up, Ill ask a ? in a new thread. Your SOA is something we hope to do this summer. Again, Thanks for all you do.Cman.
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Old 02-13-2011, 04:37 PM   #141
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Go for the Atlas, Hard to find a good NP241OR, used and new cost is pretty high. Also ya probably know this, but, for those that don't, JK Rock-Trac's have no provision for speed sensors. CAUTION EBAY BUYERS-FIND OUT WHAT IT CAME OFF OF!
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:42 PM   #142
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No way I would use one from a JK if I decided to go that route....Id go for the TJ version, but like I said....they have issues too and all those are solved with an Atlas. Worst part is the 4 week wait so I think I will get it movable with the 231 in it and at least I can get my shop back for a month or so before it comes in.
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No way I would use one from a JK if I decided to go that route....Id go for the TJ version, but like I said....they have issues too and all those are solved with an Atlas. Worst part is the 4 week wait so I think I will get it movable with the 231 in it and at least I can get my shop back for a month or so before it comes in.
Kool, more pics then.
Is Dad gonna wheel the crap out of this thing ?
Is the 231 the weak link on the Jeep?
Dose the Altlas not have a slip yoke?
Sorry for all the Qs
when finished with this thread you gonna make this a sticky?

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Old 02-13-2011, 11:45 PM   #144
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Its up to the mods to make it a sticky and clean up all the other stuff if they want to...they have my blessing.

Dad does wheel quite a bit, but stays pretty much on the level 7-8 trails and doesn't get too out of line or mom would smack the crap out of him. If he wants to go all out, he usually rides with me in the crawler to get his fix lol

231's aren't really weak, but they aren't really tough either. Anything with a chain in my book is a POS, but I am old school when it comes to drivetrain. An Atlas does not have a slip yoke and will allow him super low range, but still keep drivability on the road with 4.10's/33's/and an automatic 3 speed tranny.

No apologies for questions man, its how we all learn I always say there is no dumb question...unless the same person asks it over and over lol
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Old 02-13-2011, 11:58 PM   #145
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Here's what I got done today. Mocked up the wishbone on the housing, finished the brackets, welded the bushing brackets on, welded the link brackets to the housing, finish welded the perches on, cut off the old perches and swaybar mounts, and cleaned up the old weld residue on one side of the axle.

Mocked up in place with jackstands


welded with axle brackets attached


axle side mockup


Perch welded


angle up the perch is located at



One side cleaned up
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Old 02-14-2011, 12:00 AM   #146
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hmm that linkage looks really cool and probably works good. but it looks like it kills your clearence
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Old 02-14-2011, 12:02 AM   #147
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Nah, actually it helps. When I am done it will be able to slide the jeep up and over a rock with ease. If it hits the bellypan it will slide to the bar, then down the bar, raising the jeep up and put the back tires right on top of it. My big crawler is done similar, but out of 3x2 box tubing and its never caught me up yet.

Looks like this
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Old 02-14-2011, 12:19 AM   #148
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I want to see pics of your crawler man it sounds sweet
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Old 02-14-2011, 12:56 AM   #149
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lol I don't wanna get bashed for having a truggy on a jeep forum
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Looks like that wishbone works great with a coil sprung setup but wouldn't it tend to bind up with a leaf sprung rig?

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