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Old 08-30-2012, 10:38 PM   #1
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i had a garage install a 4inch rc lift and do some frame patching for me( no time due to work for me to do myself) they told me it would take a month to do and i agreed to it.....a week went by and they said they had found a frame in great condition and if i deleted my gear upgrade,s it would still be in my budget so i agreed to that so they take my yj apart motor and tranny over there body over here and my old frame over yonder..several more days went by and i called and asked for an update they told me my frame was in alot better shap than the one they had found so they made me some rear frame shackel ends and plated the bad spot at the power sterring section but it took them 13 months to get it back to me yes 13 months,,,,,,,,then after the ride home in it i noticed the rear hit hard real hard i kept thinking new springs were just stiff but when i got home i found my rear shackles were sitting on my frame they had drilled the holes for my shackle bolts way to forward and up to high i then noticed that the rear frame ends they made were way thicker than my original....dont know how i missed that myself,,,,this is my first yj,,,,anyway they said they would fix it for me 3 months ago then the other day i called and said i would be on a job close to there garage they said to bring it in early that morning and they would have it fixed and my reese hitch put back on that they had also forgot to put on..
so i drop it off and after a 10 hour shift i stop in to pick it up and it is still sitting on the lift with my rear shackles off,,,,,they told me they couldnt find a drill bit to drill out my frame for the shackle bolt.....so they said they could make me longer shackles but they would raise me another 2 inches in order to get my shackle off the frame.......now im no mech.at all but am i right that still wont fix the shackle that is in the wrong area ..what would it do ???and i really dont want to go any taller...

could anyone please show me a how to fix this---again im no mech..,but i do have a welder and that i know i can do..
i would be most greatfull,,,,this thing rides horrable and it wheels like crap, i have removed my rear track bar but of course i fave no flex my new shocks cant even work-i have alot of other upgrades to do and at 50yrs old im going to start my own mechanic stuff...

thanks for reading my venting....i thought they were going to have to take me out of that place in handcuffs--lol

i was going to download pics of where my shackles are now but cant find them so if anyone is interested i can post them latter..

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Old 08-30-2012, 10:55 PM   #2
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If the rest of the vehicle is acceptable, except for the rear spring situation, I would concentrate on fixing that.

Drop the gas tank so you have room. Take a grinder and smooth down the existing rear shackle in the frame so you can plate over it if needed. Make sure it doesn't interfere with where you need the shackles.

Take the measurements from a factory frame and drill through the frame. Intall a sleeve and weld it in place. Install the proper shackles and you should be good to go.

If the existing sleeve is in the way, cut it out, replate and put the new sleeve where you need it. I don't think you will ever be satisfied, or get it to ride right, until you get the shackle back where it belongs.

It is insane that they would "find/get" a frame that was in worse shape than yours. If they intended to go to that extent the frame they got SHOULD have been pristine!

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Old 08-31-2012, 10:51 PM   #3
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thanks ballistx, i thought they had already seen the frame but they had,nt untill they went to pick it up..the rest of my frame is in really good condition for a hard used 92..that has been rode hard and put up wet by countless po,s

this is my rear shackles now
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:19 AM   #4
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The rear plates could be drilled with a new hole saw, I wouldent bother looking for a drill bit that size the cost is excessive, hole saws are cheap.

looks like the just drilled it where they wanted instead of where it goes, have em drop the tank and try to do it right. and I hope they dont charge you to re-do there mistake.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:54 AM   #5
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I remember your original thread of this. Im surprised you haven't gone ballistic on them. Honestly man, you gave them the chance to fix their mistake and instead of doing it right they tried to take a shortcut with longer shackles. That hole in the frame is so far off its ridiculous. And the work they did and the welds look like a hack job. Get your money back and either fix it yourself or go to a reputable shop who specializes in jeeps. You may have to pay more but at least it will be done right. I wouldn't be surprised if you have to take the shop to court either. That work is just down right unacceptable and unsafe.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:29 PM   #6
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i agree there welds are awfull ,,they were,nt going to charge me for the fix...and i have decided to do the repairs myself this winter when my work load slows down

i have thought about court,--but just dont have the time or cash to do it---shame..because they are really good people ,,,but have done me so wrong that i would if i had the time and cash...

i know i can learn to do this stuff and i can weld better than there best welder with my eye,s closed..

thanks for your replies

and another thing will i still need longer shackels because of how much taller there frame ends are????or should i just cut them off and start over???

thanks again
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I would cut everything that they did completely off and start over. You can get the frame repair ends for those sections for 130/side.

The repair pieces start at the center of the hump over the rear axle and go completely back to the rear crossmember. I just put a set in my 87. easy to use, 3/16 thick. 3 sided, everything but the top rail. Have all the stock holes pre-cut into them making alignment a breeze. Also comes with the shackle bushing hole already in it.

I was going to do a how-to post on it, but it has been done a million times. After i got the tank out of it, and everything out of the way, i had about 4 hrs in each side, cutting out the rust, rustproofing the inside of the frame with chassis paint, and welding the new pieces in.
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Old 09-02-2012, 07:13 AM   #8
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i wish i had found this website before i bought the yj, and before i had them do the work,,,well actually my wife bought it for me as a suprise for my bday that look on her face when she opened up the garge door was pricless,,,so i plan on never selling i will keep it and fix it up till the day i die...probably take me that long....lol

and the thing is i told them about those fram ends in 4wd and quadratrak, i also needed new cab to body mounts and told them i wanted the daystar with built in 1inch lift, they did,nt do that either..

thanks again guy,s

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