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Old 09-17-2008, 11:01 AM   #1
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Auto tranny issues

So I took the plunge on a 95 4.0 3 spd auto, and like a dumb ass didn't get the thing checked out. Not that I have been having problems with is or anything, but I decided to take it in to aamco today to have the tranny flushed and change the filter.

Long story short I got a call from aamco and they are saying they found alot of metal in the pan and he said it need to be rebuilt. He also said that I have less then a few weeks till it craps out! He quoted me 1200-1500 for the rebuild.

Does anyone know what the metal could be and if this is common? The tranny shifts great and seems to work how it should. When merging on the highway it doesn't shift till 4K out of like 3rd or 4th (not sure if that is normal) but other then that it seems to work real good.

Can anyone give me some advise or anyone find something like this with their tranny?

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Old 09-17-2008, 12:07 PM   #2
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Anyone??

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Old 09-17-2008, 12:21 PM   #3
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Metal shavings in the pan are probably the remains of the clutches. From the factory, there is a magnet placed in the bottom of the pan to catch the normal small metal shavings that come from friction in the tranny. This keeps the fragments out of the trans fluid. The magnet on a vehicle with high mileage may look "fuzzy" from tiny metal particles. But larger pieces are an issue. Also not all the shavings are able to get picked up by the magnet. Some could be (in the worst case) aluminum or other non-magnetic metals used in the trans construction. These fragments can be carried thru the trans in the fluid and cause problems. I have seen some trannies compensate right up the the bitter end until taking a massive dump along the road.

Make the guy at the shop show you the metal shavings and check on the shops reputation before committing yourself. I know a lot of shops where I used to live liked to use the trans as a money maker because not a lot of people have any knowledge of an automatic.

The late shift could suggest the clutches are worn out or a blockage in the valve body. And the guy is right, it would only take a little while longer for the trans to crap out. If there is a lot of metal in the pan.

However sometime (just sometimes) if you're lucky it turns out to be a vacuum problem with the modulator or dirt in the valve body. You have to catch the dirty valve body early of else internal damage can occur.

I hope some of this helps.
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well why did you want it flushed out was you haveing trouble with it and i agree there will always be a little bit of metal shaveing in there stuck to the magnet it is from wear if it was mine we would not be rebuilding untill it quit or started slipping there is no telling were it come from or how long it had been there keep driveing it will let you know when to fix it
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well why did you want it flushed out was you haveing trouble with it and i agree there will always be a little bit of metal shaveing in there stuck to the magnet it is from wear if it was mine we would not be rebuilding untill it quit or started slipping there is no telling were it come from or how long it had been there keep driveing it will let you know when to fix it

I just bought the jeep and not knowing the service history I figured I would be a good idea to have the serviced.

I just got back from picking up the jeep and they could not find the tranny filter to show me!!! That was kinda weird and the oil was not saved either.

Driving it back to work was great, shifted great and no problems. I am going to drive it for the next week or 2 and then drop the pan myself and check it out.

Honestly I think they are trying to get me to spend a shiet load of money....maybe the fluid has not been changed in a while so that was why it looked like that.

I do agree tho....deff put the miles on and let that be the test! Thanks for the advise
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Old 09-18-2008, 10:52 PM   #6
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thats right drive it till it breaks paint it till it matches then beat it till it fits
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:55 AM   #7
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Try getting an aftermarket tranny cooler. They work so much better than running the fluid through the Hot Hot radiator. This will keep the fluid much cooler and help your tranny last longer. Mount it were it gets air flow but not against a heat source. I think this should be the very first mod for all auto tranny users.
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^^Agreed^^
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Try getting an aftermarket tranny cooler. They work so much better than running the fluid through the Hot Hot radiator. This will keep the fluid much cooler and help your tranny last longer. Mount it were it gets air flow but not against a heat source. I think this should be the very first mod for all auto tranny users.
Okay, sounds a bit intense. Do you have any info on the install process? Any brand you suggest? Thanks for the suggestion.
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Look in jegs or summit for tranny coolers even your quadratec catalog has'm, looks like a mini little radiator. There are lines running from your tranny to your radiator. Unhook them, you may have to cut them and attach to rubber lines that run to where ever you mount your cooler, pretty simple and flexible to however you wanna do it. Do some googling on it if you wanna see installs or diagrams.
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Old 09-23-2008, 02:19 PM   #11
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Look in jegs or summit for tranny coolers even your quadratec catalog has'm, looks like a mini little radiator. There are lines running from your tranny to your radiator. Unhook them, you may have to cut them and attach to rubber lines that run to where ever you mount your cooler, pretty simple and flexible to however you wanna do it. Do some googling on it if you wanna see installs or diagrams.

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You almost fell for the oldest trick in the book. Glad you didnt. The 32RH transmissions are fairly bullet proof, if they dont overheat and the bads are kept properly adjusted along with the Thottle valve cable. There is no vac modulator on this trans, however, I would suggest that when you put in an aftermarket cooler, that you also install an inline filter to pick up all those non-magnetic particles that are in EVERY transmission. Have no fear, you have a good trans.

EDIT: Also unless the planetaries are junk, which in this case is VERY doubtful because it still moves, there should be no reason to pay more than about 9 hundred for a 32RH rebuild. Those trannies are quite simple, actually.


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You almost fell for the oldest trick in the book. Glad you didnt. The 32RH transmissions are fairly bullet proof, if they dont overheat and the bads are kept properly adjusted along with the Thottle valve cable. There is no vac modulator on this trans, however, I would suggest that when you put in an aftermarket cooler, that you also install an inline filter to pick up all those non-magnetic particles that are in EVERY transmission. Have no fear, you have a good trans.

EDIT: Also unless the planetaries are junk, which in this case is VERY doubtful because it still moves, there should be no reason to pay more than about 9 hundred for a 32RH rebuild. Those trannies are quite simple, actually.


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That is some good info for me to hear! I was hesitant when the guy told me that my tranny was shot just because it drives so well. Never again will I bring my biz to those shaddy pricks!

I am going to put the oil cooler on this weekend and research the inline filter. I assume this would be a good time to install that also?

Appreciate the advise!

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