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Old 10-04-2007, 08:26 PM   #1
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axle swap questions

hey fellas. i've got a line on an 87 grand wagoneer for pretty cheap. i'm watning to swap the D44's under my yj. does anyone know how easy/hard it will be? what modifications will need to be made? basically anything you know about it tell me. thanks

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Old 10-04-2007, 08:41 PM   #2
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Sorry bud no info as that is not a swap I have worked on. I did want to let you know I read the post and hoped it worked out well
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its all good. if you happen to stumble upon anything let me know.
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I bet they will be wider. They always make changes to confuse people.
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Here are a couple of links that might help:

http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=277046

http://www.offroaders.com/directory/axles/dana44.htm

http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/

The later model Grand Wagoneers had a wide axle when compared to the earlier models. I think the width changed in the late 70s or early 80s. Not for sure, but in there somewhere. My guess is your Grand Wagoneer has one of these wider axles and would have to be narrowed to fit a YJ for any on-road use. There are others available that would be the correct width for the YJ and would only require spring pad relocation. Of course if yours were free, then the cost of narrowing them wouldn't hurt so much.
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I believe the change over to wider axles was in '76, not 100% sure. They should only be a little wider,not near enough to consider narrowing them. You will need new wheels anyway, so just get a little more backspacing to reduce how much the tires stick out if you need to. I have read on this a few times in the past and I think it should be pretty straight forward. You live in OH anyway...they'll let anything on the road there.
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Here is another link to a lot of information on Dana 44s:

http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/d44swap.html

This is a quote on the Dana 44 from Wagoneers:

"Narrow track (Wagoneers, Grand Wagoneers, and some Cherokees) fronts were 58.4", rears were 57-59", depending on who you believe. Wide tracks (some Cherokees) were about 6" wider than that, or 62.5" in front according to Louie Belt, who installed one. Kerry Embry claims narrow fronts are 60.5" and wides are around 65". I personally measured a narrow '82 Wag to be 61.5" front and 58.5-59" rear. The pinion on an '87 GW rear is offset 3/16" to the right. J-truck axles are reportedly about 67" wide. Obviously, YMMV."

The same page states the YJ width as: 60.5" rear, similar front

If you do the math, it appears the wide ones are anywhere from 2 - 5 inches wider than stock. If you run a stock type wheel with 5 inches of backspacing , even with the wider axle, it would probably extend 2.5 inches wider than stock and could most likely be covered with a fender flair. It would not be my choice, but I guess it is doable.

Bottom line is there is a lot of info on the net to help you make a decision. Google is your friend!

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