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Old 01-18-2009, 07:38 PM   #1
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So i bought some axles this past week i am very excited. they are dana 44 front and rear from a scout II. they are going to be completly rebuilt. when the guy took them out of the scout it only had 70,000k miles on them. and it was a restored scout. so i think i got a deal on them at 200 bucks. and now i get to go spring over i am very excitd. anybody got any ideas on disc brake conversion

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very nice, i just picked up the same axles myself a little while ago. the front axle is a right side drop though isn't it? thats what i needed for my dana 300 t case. make sure the differential on the front is on the same side as your driveshaft. also the front d44 pumpkin housing gets in the way of a spring perch, needs to be machined, or ground down pretty good.

don't know of any rear disc conversions, let me know if you find one. the front is disc right?

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Old 01-18-2009, 08:18 PM   #3
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Why worry about spending money on a rear disc conversion? Drums actually have more clamping force than disks. Spend the money elswhere.
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Old 01-18-2009, 08:20 PM   #4
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ya, i've never been too concerned with having rear disc, 8.8 has them already and thats fine, not sure if i'd spend money on converting. besides who needs brakes when you have gears.
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besides who needs brakes when you have gears.
I have a friend that took the rear brakes off of his XJ buggy and just forgot about them. He doesn't have any problems on the trail.
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Old 01-18-2009, 08:29 PM   #6
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thats cool, never known anyone to do that before. any reason, or just took them off and never got around to them again?
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thats cool, never known anyone to do that before. any reason, or just took them off and never got around to them again?
Honestly when they went bad he didn't have the money to replace all of the shoes, etc.... So he just took it all off. Then he realized that it wasn't really a problem and got used to driving it so he just left them off.
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when i got my 8.8 i got the one with drums just over the cost, the drum one was 150 and the disc one was 400. im not too concerned about it when going ten in low range anyways
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when i got my 8.8 i got the one with drums just over the cost, the drum one was 150 and the disc one was 400. im not too concerned about it when going ten in low range anyways
Hell the 8.8 Drums are bigger than the TJ's stock drums anyway.
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Old 01-19-2009, 04:23 PM   #10
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well the one big reason that i am putting disc brakes on the rear is because the axle has no brakes on it at all. kinda why i got them so cheap. but i found a place that has a complete setup for like 289.00 (Scout II) so that is not to bad i don't think anyhow. so yeah i could just get the parts and put the drums on there but that wouldn't be much fun. my thought was if i can lets upgrade. so i might as well upgrade while i have the cash. and yes the front axle has disc brake set up except it has no calipers the guy used them on another prorject. so i will have to pretty much get the entire brake setup for the front. oh well. i still think i got a good deal.
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Old 01-19-2009, 04:28 PM   #11
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very nice, i just picked up the same axles myself a little while ago. the front axle is a right side drop though isn't it? thats what i needed for my dana 300 t case. make sure the differential on the front is on the same side as your driveshaft. also the front d44 pumpkin housing gets in the way of a spring perch, needs to be machined, or ground down pretty good.

don't know of any rear disc conversions, let me know if you find one. the front is disc right?
yeah i plan on buying a dana 300 case and maybe doing a 4:1 kit. and in case anybody is wondering i am springing the ole jeep over using prolly like 1.5 springs and plan to stretch it out a lil bit and ideas let me know.
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:11 PM   #12
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very cool, i'm doing around the same thing. you'll have to grind down the top right of the front axle, when you look at the pumpkin, its not flat where the perch has to be. i've also heard that the pinion angle is ver low on that axle, and sometimes has to be changed, but the caster is so minumal to that people have had to cut the knuckles off, and weld them in the right spot.

i'm hoping we don't have to do this. how do you plan on stretching it?
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:10 PM   #13
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very cool, i'm doing around the same thing. you'll have to grind down the top right of the front axle, when you look at the pumpkin, its not flat where the perch has to be. i've also heard that the pinion angle is ver low on that axle, and sometimes has to be changed, but the caster is so minumal to that people have had to cut the knuckles off, and weld them in the right spot.

i'm hoping we don't have to do this. how do you plan on stretching it?
I hope to order the BTF stretch kit. Or do something like it. I plan on stretching the rear i dont want to go to far with it maybe 5 inches or so. and i also plan to comp cut and get a fuel cell that will fit behind the back seat. and i also plan on doing a whole bunch of other crap. And yeah i knew i would have to grind down the pumpkin. i kinda figured i would have to do something like that when i bought the axles. and as far a taking th knuckles off i really hope i dont have to do that. i am doing some research right now on doing a high steer set up but from what i understand its going to be real expensive.
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:43 PM   #14
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nothing is cheap at that level. i really don't want to do anything with my gas tank, so i'm gonna move the rear an inch or two, and move the front a few to gain a better aproach angle. let me know what you run into on those axles since i'm runnin them also. good luck on the build,
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i have the same set of axles but mine are bound for a cj-3a. From what i have read a soa setup needs 5 degrees of positive caster, the scout axle has 0 degrees. The pinion in a stock setup also points almost straight out. Then when you point the pinion up it results in negative caster. This is a good write up on what you guys are doing Swapping a Scout II Dana 44 Front into a YJ
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great link, exactly what i wanted to know. thanks man.
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hey guys i am going to try to get some pictures up of the axles. other good news is i bought some flat top knuckles. and i am almost completly lost on what to do next

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