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Old 06-03-2013, 09:17 AM   #31
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I am thinkin of doing both the inside and outside like you are. What do you plan on doing with the brackets that hold the windshield on? Just paint over them? And whats your solution for the door hinges.. Looks like i willnt be trying to remove the rollcage!

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Old 06-03-2013, 11:39 PM   #32
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oh god the roll cage was about 4 hours of PB blaster and headache and it still hasnt come out... I am going to reassemble after doing the inside and go over the hinges. Might not be the best idea but i have seen others do it and it looks awesome! These torx bolts are a joke anyways... But i have to say... i really wish i could get the roll cage out because i can already imagine how hard this is going to be to get behind the bars on the sides of the tub. I am going to make good use of the paint brush, thats for sure!

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Old 06-03-2013, 11:47 PM   #33
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Day 3... work week is going to be slow progress!

Finally after 2 hours i got all the fender flares off... they are not going to go back on!!! Until i can spring for a proper set that cover my 12.5" wide tires.



Got the rest of the shift boot off, if anyone has the same problems i had on the 4WD shifter... here is my advice: Remove the shifter lever completely, you will see it goes from round to square where it attaches into the tranny (or transfer case? bit of a newb. sorry.) Get a big wrench to get around the square portion and a 3/4" wrench around the lock nut. Wedge them against the tub (you are about to paint it anyways so dont worry about getting a scratch or scuff) and twist the lever to have both wrenches apply force. The lock nut broke free with little effort and a good amount of rust filtered its way out.


I also pulled the wire harness that runs to the rear of the jeep for the brake/reverse lights as well as the rear windshield wiper and defroster for the hard top. I am not sure yet what i want to do with the little tabs that hold it up under the lip of the tub. I might mask them off to avoid monstaliner freezing them up when i go to re-run the wires.



Havent received any sort of shipping confirmation from Monstaliner today, i might call them tomorrow to check on my order.
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:12 AM   #34
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Sorry one more post... here is my list of things that will not be re-installed:

Roll bar padding (for now)
Sound bar (4 speakers + Sub are plenty)
cabin air system (going to mount the amps up there to hide them from the weather)
hard top (going to be bikini top only)
Doors (for now... they will get painted but i like them off)
tuffy lock box (i hate that damn heavy hunk of metal)
Fender flares (until i can get my hands on wider ones)
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:14 AM   #35
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Keep postiing, cuz I'm thinking of doing this, and i wana see what it is going to take.
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Old 06-04-2013, 01:21 PM   #36
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I will! Being a newb at this, I never found a good step by step for prep. Everyone says "prep is 90% of the work" yet when you look at all threads, the best you get is stripped, prepped, painted. No additional detail!
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Old 06-04-2013, 05:33 PM   #37
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Yeah, idk if im going to be taking all of the wiring out of the tub though.
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Old 06-04-2013, 07:35 PM   #38
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You don't need to take it out I just unplugged the sound bar and stashed both sides up on the dash the drivers side hung on the steering wheel so they were both out of the way
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:14 PM   #39
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I was wondering what to do with the wiring to the break lights... you hung that strand on the steering wheel? I might do the same instead of pulling it and re-running it.
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Old 06-04-2013, 10:04 PM   #40
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How much monstaliner should I use just for doing inside the tub?
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I hear 1 gallon is enough for the inside tub.
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Old 06-04-2013, 10:09 PM   #42
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I did two really thick coats on mine with the rollbars and had enough to line a pair of my wife's high heels to match with one gallon
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How much monstaliner is needed for the exterior? I am not thinkin of doing the hardtop.
And is it possible to tape off some sections and paint them a different color?
I plan on doing the interior 1 color than the exterior another but than adding some if any of the interior leftover onto the exterior. Is this possible?
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How are you going to get past the hinges? like the hood hinge,door hinge,tailgate hinge?
Is there a way to take the tailgate off and paint separately? Also side question im going to be rolling it on so for small hard to reach spots can i use a normal paint brush to dab some of the liner on?
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I did two really thick coats on mine with the rollbars and had enough to line a pair of my wife's high heels to match with one gallon
so you did 2 coats on the roll bars as well or just the base of the roll bars where they meet the tub?
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How much monstaliner is needed for the exterior? I am not thinkin of doing the hardtop.
And is it possible to tape off some sections and paint them a different color?
I plan on doing the interior 1 color than the exterior another but than adding some if any of the interior leftover onto the exterior. Is this possible?
i ordered 2 gallons for the exterior and 1 gallon for the interior
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How are you going to get past the hinges? like the hood hinge,door hinge,tailgate hinge?
Is there a way to take the tailgate off and paint separately? Also side question im going to be rolling it on so for small hard to reach spots can i use a normal paint brush to dab some of the liner on?
i removed my tailgate, its pretty easy, only two bolts held it in at the hinge. The other side where it locks into the tub was 4 bolts. All in all it was a pretty easy removal.

I am going to be rolling it on as well, i am going to mask of the hinges and spray paint them all mat black. If a hinge starts to rust out, that is easier to replace than a tub. I have only seen people spray over hinges, i havent seen anyone roll over hinges.

The kit actually comes with a paint brush for hard to reach places. They advise that you seal it up in a plastic bag when not in use during a coat to keep any leftover monstaliner from freezing it up for the second coat. I will certainly be making good use of it!
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:14 PM   #48
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Hmm i feel like it would be to thick to spray.
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:17 PM   #49
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Day 4. Progress!!! Hopefully can paint this weekend! (interior at least)

I finally got that damn tuffy lock box out!! They put the final bolts in such difficult places... makes sense though to avoid theft. But regardless... empty tub!


I did some other minor stuff tonight such as removing the rear seatbelts and the gas cap cover and gas cap surround.

I then went over the whole thing with a damn scrub brush to remove any caked on grime from years of abuse and i got a good amount off. I followed it up with a damp rag to get all the chunks that lifted away.





One more tip. People in the office asked me how im going to be able to put it all back together. Well, aside from the difficult task on figuring out thread measurements and bolt lengths/widths on the bolts i stripped - i have bagged all bolts and other small pieces into labeled zip lock baggies. All large pieces have gone on the side of the garage in an organized chaos depending on which side of the vehicle i pulled it off from. For example... both of the drivers side seat belts are on the drivers seat. (i dont have a rear seat) Another example - the plastic wire guide pieces are in a zip lock baggie with their respective bolts since they are small plastic pieces and certainly not difficult to lose.
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Sorry one more post... here is my list of things that will not be re-installed:

Roll bar padding (for now)
Sound bar (4 speakers + Sub are plenty)
cabin air system (going to mount the amps up there to hide them from the weather)
hard top (going to be bikini top only)
Doors (for now... they will get painted but i like them off)
tuffy lock box (i hate that damn heavy hunk of metal)
Fender flares (until i can get my hands on wider ones)
I'll possibly buy the tuffy lock box, if your willing to sell
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Old 06-05-2013, 02:47 AM   #51
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I'm interested in that lock box as well

Back to the original topic,
Great description and detail and pictures

I've been thinking of monstalining my tub for quite sometime now, I think this is giving me the motivation to actually do it lol
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Old 06-05-2013, 08:20 AM   #52
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How much monstaliner should I use just for doing inside the tub?
1 gallon kit
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Old 06-05-2013, 08:45 AM   #53
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Josh and Cole, it is up for grabs. 250 including shipping. It is the Tuffy full length under-seat drawer. Weighs 70 lbs.
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Old 06-05-2013, 08:48 AM   #54
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Cole - I did a LOT of research on the prepping since no one has posted a detailed thread for those that are inexperienced. If this helps just one other person then I will be happy!

P.S. all parts that I listed are permanently removed. PM me if insterested in any other parts.
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Keep this thread going, I really want to see how it all comes together

It's really helping me by just seeing the pictures
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:37 PM   #56
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Why did you rip apart the dash?
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Old 06-05-2013, 10:21 PM   #57
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I want to go all the way up the firewall. I also dont want the clunky cabin air system in there anymore. I have an ARB Airlocker compressor mounted where the AC compressor usually is anyways so without AC in florida... you might as well not have air at all. Another benefit of going all the way up the sidewall is just increased resistance to the elements. I dont plan on putting a full top back on it until fall/winter when it gets down in the 40s and even then it will be a soft top. This jeep is NOT my daily driver. It is really fun to drive around and is great cruising on paved roads with the all terrains but for comfort i have other rides i can drive. (garage queens shown in day 1 pictures)

Here is what I got through today:

Windshield is gone!!! WOOO!!!! Only took a dremmel and drill to get some damn bolts out... sigh... but the tub and hinges are all intact. The windshield frame is being replaced anyways.


no more windshield!


Here is the windshield motor sitting happy.


Dash is ALMOST completely out! Little planning went in to this one... the steering wheel has to be removed and i didnt realize you need a special tool for that task... Here is a good writeup that i found from scouring google:
Steering Wheel Removal 1995 Wrangler. - JeepForum.com



Cabin air will be pulled tomorrow and cleaned. Yet another part that will be up for sale.


Using a razor, i cleaned up around the shift boot cover. I will hit the remaining adhesive with some MEK tomorrow. I might go buy some acetone as well. The PO stuck lots of random crap all over the jeep... misc velcro pieces everywhere!!


hit what little was left to call gasketing between the hard top and the tub with MEK. rubbed right off, I have never used MEK before but it works like a charm.



P.S. I am going to start roaming around for tips on how to remove the windshield wipers and the windshield wiper linkage. It has to be easy... but they just wont come out and i cant figure it out. I have a feeling it will be one of those DOH moments but we will see...
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sorry for another post... as you can see from the pictures - the wiring is a mangled mess. the PO grounded the KC Daylighters to the freakin dashboard!!! No wonder why the gauges kept blowing fuses... Lucky for me, one of the engineers at work used to wire sound systems and has done multiple sound systems on jeeps and is going to pull part of my wiring harness that i no longer need and clean up the wire mess and properly ground everything that the PO screwed up.
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Day 6 - cabin air Removed!

Has it really been almost a week??? Yikes!

I finally got the steering wheel off and the dash panel off. The dash panel is a bit more rusted than expected... i might have to try to find a replacement to order or try to find someone with welding skills to sand blast it down to metal and re-weld rusted parts. There is only so much i can do with a wire brush... bleh.

I started off the morning with a wakeup alarm of the radio announcing that in 30 mins we were about to have the first band of a Tropical Storm hit. I scrambled to move all of the jeep parts to one side of the garage or into the house to pull my infiniti back in the garage next to the jeep before i had to head off to work. Space was a little tight... thankfully post work was sunny between outer bands before TS andrea went north.


No more cabin air system!!!


Wire harness mess... I will be taping this up as best i can to avoid any stray monstaliner


Hmmmm HOLES!!!

The plan for these are to have my friend do 3D CAD designs and print plastic caps to plug the holes where the cabin air was run and seal the caps with silicone sealer. If anyone else is interested please let me know and I can ask him how much it would cost. I get the friend discount (so far) which consists of beer and food haha!

I need to figure out what I can do with the coolant piping that used to run into the cabin air box. I hope the easy solution is to remove one of the two hoses and use the second hose to close the loop on both outlets. Hopefully I am not missing an integral part of keeping my engine cool now... I really dont want that air box in there!


If anyone has any advice, i started a separate question since i couldnt find the answer. Doesnt sound like many people want to pull their cabin air system out. But hey, It didnt really do much of anything anymore besides pump out heat which isnt really needed in florida.
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WOW so you were ballzy enough to take the hole dash off?!

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