I sure was and I am glad I did!! The water leaks too their toll on the dash panel. I wish I did this sooner, the dash panel might be beyond surface rust and I do not have the tools or expertise to weld. It is still structurally sound so if chassis saver is the magical stuff everyone says it is, maybe I can just halt what damage has been done and just monstaline it and leave it at that.
I will say this... I labeled as much as I could because I certainly would forget what went where. I also have an engineer from work that will help me re-wire.
great posts, very informative cant wait to start this on my yj
and for the heater hoses you are correct take one off and just loop the other around (try to keep it kink free if possible), this is what i did too after my heater core started to leak into the floorboard
Thanks guys, I appreciate the support! Trying to be as detailed and photo friendly as possible. This was a bigger project than initially expected. Due to me being gone next weekend, it might not be done until the end of the month :-(
nah they say to just scuff the paint. Anything that in bare metal or rust i am going to prime with the free chassis saver quart that they give you with the order codes listed here on the forums (or call and order)
okay so... i ran into some stubborn adhesives that the PO put on the jeep. FINALLY got it all cleaned up!! I still have some stickers on the outside to get off but i had to call it quits when i found a hole in my glove and was going for 7 hours straight. When another WF guy posted a thread saying about 45-50 hours of prep time... he wasnt kidding!! Not to mention i think my Jeep is in pretty damn good shape. I cant imagine prep time if you have to include major rust repair and what not.
But here are the pics, adhesive free and shiny! Tomorrow I will make good use of the sandpaper after giving it a good vacuuming after an overnight drying. I want to get all surfaces inside and out scuffed and ready for when the monstaliner arrives monday.
FYI for those of you in the southern states that might be interested in a useless AC-lacking air system removal... My buddy took measurements of the holes that are now where my air system used to be to create 3D CAD designs. Once the 3D CAD designs are done, my other buddy will print the caps and we will install them. If you would like a set of caps, PM me and we can print more or send you the CAD drawings if you have your own 3D Printer. Or if you have a lathe and want metal caps.
Day 8! Ready to lay down the chassis saver and monstaliner!
I am going to attempt some long nights during this work week to get the inside of the tub complete before the weekend.
Today I sanded down the whole interior of the tub and roll bars then masked off the edges of where i want the black to end and green begin.
I had to get creative with the wiring to the rear tail lights since i didnt pull it out. Pulling it out and re-wiring it is way over my head since it looks like you would have to drop the gas tank. Im not that extreme and my wiring buddy doesnt want to deal with it either.
it JUST clears both the roll bar and tub! AWESOME!
I dont mind if i get monstaliner on it, i just dont want it to dry to the tub/roll bars and become a mess...
When my kit arrives, i will go over everything with the scuff tool and then do a final wipe down with the remaining MEK. Then hopefully if i time this right... I will get my two coats of chassis saver down on all rust & bare metal to let it set while i am at work the following day and then that next evening i will lay down the two coats of monstaliner on the tub and bars. I see lots of coffee and energy drinks in my future.
I put down some coats of Chassis Saver on my "issue" areas late Monday night. Once the fumes exited my garage for the most part, i closed the garage door, opened up the door to the house, and blasted the downstairs AC. I set the thermostat to 70 degrees. Living in florida, i did this to slow down the curing process of the chassis saver. I wanted to make sure that i timed things right to where laying down the monstaliner next day would leave me with a surface that wouldnt require additional prep or scuff.
Was a short day... but WHEW the excitement was building!!!
WOOO!!!! it looks so good! It certainly isnt perfect but i am EXTREMELY happy with how it came out! I might need a touch up kit down the road but i will stop raining on my happy parade.
I started by putting ear plugs in all of the bolt holes i could find. I have a bunch of holes on the top of my tub as well that i assume is for soft top hardware but honestly unsure so i put plugs in them as well. I had a total of 64 plugs and 6 chunks of painters tape plugging all the holes i could find that needed to have bolts run back through them.
Lots of plugs! Once plugs were in place, i followed the instruction guide sentence by sentence to make sure i did things right because you only have one shot. I honestly had downloaded the PDF version weeks ago and would read it at random here or there to make sure I truly understood all the steps that needed to be taken and made sure if there was any extra stuff that i needed, i had it.
WOOO!!!! You can spot a few areas where the red still is peeking out. I called Magnet Paints to ask if a gallon would be enough to go up the firewall, over the lip of the tub, and also do the main parts of the roll bar. They assured me that it should be enough. Well... when a bit more than half the gallon was gone after the first coat, i became really nervous... I laid the second coat not as thick as the first which should have been the other way around, the second coat should be thick enough to catch any little areas that the first coat did not catch. I was squeezing every last bit out of that gallon to cover everything on the second coat... So, if you want to cover as much of the interior as i did... maybe consider having an extra quart handy just in case.
Thank you! And imagine, this was honestly my first time painting anything besides the art class stuff that you were forced to do back in elementary school. I just made sure I did my research and dove right in! This stuff was pretty easy to work with.
Looks great so far!!!
Now for a stoopid question....
I saw the pic of the boxes, but I'm gonna ask anyway...
You are rolling this on and NOT spraying it on, correct?
Most everything I've read suggests using the spray on, that's why I'm asking.
Getting around hinges were the easy part. I just taped them up and rolled right over them. Getting in the corners of the tub was the difficult part! The brush was put to use... beware because the second coat is really hard to lay down with the thickness that it begins to have
okay so the birthday festivities have come and gone and I am back at it!! I have started prepping the exterior. Hopefully I will finish up prep tomorrow evening and lay down the chassis saver on the problem areas so i can hit it with the monstahhhhh liner saturday! BUT... we will see... I have a lot left to do.
I was sick of peeling off stickers so i reinstalled my shift boot and front seatbelts:
PO put SO MANY friggin stickers on here! I got most of them off but these ones are problem children. The florida sun literally baked them into the paint...
Scuff scuff scuff!
I put the doors back on so that they can hang there for paint. It will allow me to get all parts of the doors since the hinges are going to be spray painted black anyways.
Tail gate is gonna be a pain in the bones. On the other side i will have to paint around the ammo cans. I was debating just painting over the ammo cans, could look cool.... we will see.
These parts of the roll bar are going to be tough to paint green. I will need to figure something out here to avoid making a mess.
Same with figuring something out with the dash to avoid making a mess. I will be hitting all of the rust with the chassis saver.
If anyone has any advice on minimizing mess on the small parts, please let me know! I am open to any and all suggestions! I am going to suspend the hood on 2 foot stools but thats as far as i got lol!
Phenomenal....what tape did u use to tape stuff off?
I can only hope that mine turns out as nice later this summer...or year...
Thanks! I used scotch blue painters tape. Im debating spray painting the front wheel wells black to match the back (the inside, you can see the red) but im not sure yet. It was extremely easy to roll on, the outside more-so than the inside! BTW you don't need two full gallons for the outside, i have more than half a gallon left that had to go to waste and i put as thick of coats as i could without it getting too runny... You could probably get away with a gallon and a quart or two. The interior and roll bars need more than 1 gallon though especially if you go up the firewall.
This is not meant as criticism, but only a question... Given the amount of work you did to take the Jeep apart, why didnt you take off the rubber parts, rear lights, metal parts on the hood? Would have taken all of another 10 minutes.
Now, if you ever do remove any of these parts for any reason you have red spots still showing.
Just trying to figure out if I missed something, as to why these things shouldnt be taken off.
The rear lights were out, i stripped off as much as i could. I show it in some of the pictures... I am confused what you are getting at? It is pretty well stripped, im not sure what more i could have removed aside from removing the tub from the frame completely.
One more thing I will note if you are also referring to the rubber gasketing - the gaskets around the doors and tailgate are attached using a gunky adhesive. Yes... it would have taken 10 minutes or less to strip it off but I guarantee it would have taken over an hour to re-attach them with new adhesive. I figured tape.would do just fine. I wanted to do a good job so I stripped as much as I could but im by no means a professional so it isnt going to be perfect but I love how it all came out!
I didnt notice any pictures with the tire bumpers removed from the tailgate or with the rear lights removed (maybe I missed them). I just sprayed my jeep over the last couple weeks and I removed the rubber trim pieces also. They came right off and I used 3m Double sided molding tape to put it back on.
Like I said, wasnt criticism...
Sure as hell, went back and paid more attention to your pictures and see that you did take everything off... SORRY!