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Old 10-17-2013, 12:48 PM   #1
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Bolt extraction

Found this last weekend. Replacing the pan gasket this weekend and this looks like the biggest challenge.

Any recommendations? Should I try and get it out before I remove the pan? After? Best tools? Anything is appreciated.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:06 PM   #2
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Eazy out is the way to go if you can get your hands on one. Or, if you drill and tap it I would suggest doing it while the pan is still on to stop metal shavings from getting into anything.

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Old 10-17-2013, 01:11 PM   #3
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If it were me I would take the pan off first. You may be able to spin that bolt out, or get a pair of vice grips around it. The pan is just going to get in the way.

An EZ out is a good tool, but make sure your drill straight into the bolt! Your only getting one chance to drill so be careful.
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:57 PM   #5
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If it were me I would take the pan off first. You may be able to spin that bolt out, or get a pair of vice grips around it. The pan is just going to get in the way.

An EZ out is a good tool, but make sure your drill straight into the bolt! Your only getting one chance to drill so be careful.
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Old 10-17-2013, 05:04 PM   #6
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thanks guys. i'll update after i get it fixed.
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:09 PM   #7
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:25 PM   #8
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If there is enough bolt left you can weld a nut on it. That works well on really stubborn bolts because the heat will break the rust bond. The pan bolt shouldn't be that stubborn though.
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And if had to drill it, I'd use a left hand drill bit for sure.
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:45 PM   #10
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agree,pan off and if you do drill be very careful not to break that bit...russ
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X4 And if had to drill it, I'd use a left hand drill bit for sure.
I keep forgetting about those damn things. Gotta get a set.
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I ran into the same thing about a month ago. I spent a few hours trying to get the bolt out. Mine was broke even with the block. I tried the easy out technique with no luck. If I did it again I would have used left handed drill bits and high quality ones.. I ended up having to drill and retap. That's why I use a torque wrench on everything.
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I keep forgetting about those damn things. Gotta get a set.
Irwin 11119 for the 10pc set (5 bits and 5 extractors) in a metal tin - nearly identical to a Snap-On EXDL10. Made in the same factory, though I was always told by daddy that Irwin-Hanson made better drill bits for Snappy than themselves. The extractors are identical. Don't be mistaken - it isn't Snappy "cheaping out". Irwin just makes the finest drill bit in America, possibly the world (but not ALL irwin bits are that quality).

Irwin 30520 for only the 5pc drill bit set (DBCL105A from your Snappy man).

Amazon, granger, fastenal, and a whole slew of tool companies all sell Irwin.

Make sure you get quality cobalt bits if you do not get Irwin-Hanson bits. This is not an area to f' up, and worth having the right tool around. Then again, folks been gettin bolts out for a long time before these.
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Irwin 11119 for the 10pc set (5 bits and 5 extractors) in a metal tin - nearly identical to a Snap-On EXDL10. Made in the same factory, though I was always told by daddy that Irwin-Hanson made better drill bits for Snappy than themselves. The extractors are identical. Don't be mistaken - it isn't Snappy "cheaping out". Irwin just makes the finest drill bit in America, possibly the world (but not ALL irwin bits are that quality). Irwin 30520 for only the 5pc drill bit set (DBCL105A from your Snappy man). Amazon, granger, fastenal, and a whole slew of tool companies all sell Irwin. Make sure you get quality cobalt bits if you do not get Irwin-Hanson bits. This is not an area to f' up, and worth having the right tool around. Then again, folks been gettin bolts out for a long time before these.
10-4 on that. Every time I go to any kind of hardware store or lowes or whatever I look for them. Haven't found any yet. Same goes for time-certs. I guess thread repair and broken fastener removal isn't on everyone's minds until it happens....

I haven't used a set in years but I always wish I had them. Haven't met a bolt I couldn't get out in that long either.
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10-4 on that. Every time I go to any kind of hardware store or lowes or whatever I look for them. Haven't found any yet. Same goes for time-certs. I guess thread repair and broken fastener removal isn't on everyone's minds until it happens....

I haven't used a set in years but I always wish I had them. Haven't met a bolt I couldn't get out in that long either.
Lowes will look at you like a deer in the headlights. I tried for 20 minutes to explain to that poor gal how a drill bit can be cut inversely, backwards, opposite, the other way in order to cut in reverse, left handed, counter-clockwise... so it may walk the bolt out; she had no clue. But they can special order them from grainger for ya.

My tiny little 'country' local TrueValue hardware store has em, but they also have 1" shackles and loaner wrenchs for tractors (think shipyard tools). The city version Builder supply store, which is also TV, does not stock them.
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Wow.....nobody has said "welder".........

Get a welder tac on a couple dead beads.....grab vice-grips, and you are good to go.....
Has taken me about 5 to 10 minutes.

Broke a bolt on my exhaust manifold, tried the drill and tap then broke the tap..
Got the hobart out done. 10 min....

Hope it helps.

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See post 6, I recommended welding a not to the remaining bolt, has worked for me many times.

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