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Old 01-29-2013, 08:36 PM   #1
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So i just got my jeep and i want to be able to take it off roading and to do good out there. This is also going to pretty much be my daily driver. Its a standard trans 89' YJ 4cyl 2.5L.

I will have about $800 very soon. I want to know what i should get. I wanted to get diamond plates for the backs and siding and a front bumper but none of that will actually help. For $800 i dont belive i could afford 4-5 tires and a lift but yeah just what should i do?

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Old 01-29-2013, 08:44 PM   #2
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Search craigslist for some used 31" AT tires and look into a budget boost or 1"BL and 1" lift shackles. Should be very do-able for $800 and would be a good improvement from stock.

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Old 01-29-2013, 08:55 PM   #3
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For shackles. You won't find any cheaper and beefier than these. Jeep YJ Boomerang Shackles CNC Cut 3 8" Thick 1" Lift | eBay


You can do a rc 4" lift for 500.
I wouldn't go over 1 inch on a body lift. I went with a prothane kit 1". Was like 130 but very high quality and 100% complete.
You should be able to find diamond plate rocker guards for 50 bucks or so on eBay.
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If you're a decent mechanic and have maybe another buddy who has a jeep, you could get a 4 inch rc lift for 499$ and the 31 tires shouldn't be too expensive on craigslist or wherever. that's what i did
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About 250.00 you can get an aussie locker for the front,that will be a tremendous help
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Thats the thing everything im doing is the first time im doing it most iv done so far is change the starter :3
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:23 PM   #7
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thats the great thing about the yj,,,,they are fairly easy to work on,,great starter jeep for the mechanic...

---the hard part of the rc lift is getting your old rusty bolts out,,,get plenty of pb blaster and start soaking them old bolt,s..the locker is another great investment, tire,s -you can find great deals on cl,,,just keep looking..

the biggest mistake most make is throwing on big tires before there jeep is ready for them,,,so start with your gearing 456 or 488 , rear axle is weak so find a ford 8.8 or 9 and then your suspension and your ,ball joints, etc,etc,-then your ready..

i have the little 2.5 5 speed 33s will slow you way down and you will be off roading in 4low most of the time in places you could be in 4high.. and if you live in an area with steep hills on the road you will only have a 4speed if yours is a manual shift.

keep us posted..--and congrats on one of the best jeeps ever made!!!--the only true wrangler.....!!!
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Yeah i am so happy to have a jeep iv wanted one since i was 13 i know this is going to be a big project but thats what i need with a little love and care i know ill make her beautiful
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[QUOTE=yjguy92;3296792]For shackles. You won't find any cheaper and beefier than these. Jeep YJ Boomerang Shackles CNC Cut 3 8" Thick 1" Lift | eBay

I have a set of these and they are beefy and shipping was awesomely fast, you do have to supply your own hardware and sleeves for the center support or reuse your old stuff.They were a great buy in my opinion
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Anyone got any good guides to installing and removable of shakles if there are stock ones? I really don't know anything
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Fairly easy, do one end then the next. Jack frame up till weight is off suspension but the tires are still on the ground unbolt old slide new in and reistall hardware, will have to jack the frame up a lil more after the old are removed to allow cleance for the longer shackle
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Sounds pretty easy but i need pictures or a video before id be confident :P
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:39 PM   #13
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I just got a set of tires from pepboys (pepboys.com) I paid about 650 for a new set of tires. I think each tire was 160
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Jack up... Frame on stands... Removal of tires helps alot... Jack under axle... Support the weight dont jack it up... Remove shackle bolts... Lower axle slightly... Shackle removed yay!!

If you have a sway and trackbar unhook em... Trackbar will pull the axle to one side as you lower it and the swaybar keeps it from dropping very far down
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:40 PM   #15
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It sounds easy i wish i could go look under to see whats up but its so cold outside
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buy a rc lift (2.5 or 4 inch) for $500. buy guard dog treadwright.com retread tires for another $500...you'll be golden for some trails
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Jack up... Frame on stands... Removal of tires helps alot... Jack under axle... Support the weight dont jack it up... Remove shackle bolts... Lower axle slightly... Shackle removed yay!!

If you have a sway and trackbar unhook em... Trackbar will pull the axle to one side as you lower it and the swaybar keeps it from dropping very far down

x2 killing the sway bar and shackles. unhooked them could be a lot of work...titanium tip sawzall blades make it alooooooooooooot more fun
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:51 PM   #18
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Isnt 4in to much? Everything on it is stock so i want like a medium lift
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My 4 banger is completely stock with 4 in lift and 33s and I love it. At first I was in a dilemma between 2.5 and 4 inch lift but for the same price I didn't see why I would go small. Go big or go home! After 6 months I already want to go bigger!
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same here,,,,4 banger 4 inch lift,---would be awful to wish you would have gone taller

mine is sitting with little 235 something tires on it now,---my 33s are on different rims in the barn for some reason--lol,,,,,--i will take a couple pics so you can see how it sits with small tires and then with the 33s,,.....

as far as treadwrite tires,,,i could not find any in 15s---they said they were discontinued,,aughhh,/..
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Iv never lifted anything and i havnet seen something where i can tell how high the lift is so not 100% set on any lift size
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Iv never lifted anything and i havnet seen something where i can tell how high the lift is so not 100% set on any lift size
Google images will give you an idea.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:39 AM   #23
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Found this on another page i dont think id go bigger then this

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So i think im going to try and do a 4in lift with 33s on it... Having a hard time finding 33s with the 5 lug pattern
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So i think im going to try and do a 4in lift with 33s on it... Having a hard time finding 33s with the 5 lug pattern
33" 5 lug rims sure are hard to find... What size tire are you gonna run on them?
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Isnt 33" the size of the tire people say when they say they are running 33s? I really dont know all the terms yet :/ i saw a thread specifically for "4ins lift with 33s" and thats what i wanted
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yes the 33"x12.5x15 is the tire size. You may be able to find a narrower tire like a 33x10.5" if weight is a concern to you with a 2.5Lengine. A 15"x8" WHEEL with 3.75" of backspacing and a BOLT PATTERN of 5 x4.5" will fit these tires nicely
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:21 PM   #28
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yeah i have 15in rims on it now but there crummy so id want new rims and tires
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If you have a sway and trackbar unhook em... Trackbar will pull the axle to one side as you lower it and the swaybar keeps it from dropping very far down
Delete the Track Bars yes, front and rear. The swaybar on the other hand keep it firmly in place.

The purpose of a swaybar is to keep the body parallel to the front axle in cornering. Without it, especially on stock suspension components, you risk rolling your rig very easily on the road if you're not careful. A set of quick disconnects can be had for $50 or less, used, and will allow you to disconnect your front axle to get the maximum possible flex offroad, then allow you to easily re-connect the swaybar when you roll back onto paved roads. Without understanding how it works, and how it severely affects road handling, you should never modify or remove your stabilizing components.

The Track Bars on the other hand are an entirely different story. Because of how they rotate, and because of how a leaf sprung axle rotates, it is going to do more harm than good. A lot of times cancer will cause these components to break, or cause other axle components to break because they bind up the entire suspension system. I've been using my Jeep without them for a couple years now, and it's my DD. There's just no need for them on a YJ, plain and simple.

As far as wheels go, I believe stock wheels are 15x8, believe it or not a lot of tires will actually fit that wheel. Keep in mind your rear axle won't last long on 33" tires, even if it is a DD. It was not designed, nor is it strong enough to cope with that size of a tire. People break it all the time with light wheeling on tires smaller than that (I broke mine coasting downhill under the speed limit).

By the way, I wouldn't get all lift and tire happy just yet until you find just how capable your Jeep really is. There is no need to lift it or put massive tires on it. My Jeep has a modest 1" shackle lift on stock leafs and I'm running 235/75 (29" tall) tires. No Track Bars front and rear, swaybar quick disconnects.





One things for absolute certainty, that Jeep is a lot more capable than you are, it's taken me a couple of years to figure out the limits of my Jeep, and I offroad it multiple times a week. Get out there and play around with it before you modify it, you just might like it. Also, it never hurts to have a buddy come along with you that has more experience and a tow strap. Half the fun is getting yourself unstuck (sometimes)

FYI, the white Jeep in the picture you linked is SOA, or Spring Over Axle. Our Jeeps come stock with the springs mounted under the axle. An SOA conversion tends to cost quite a bit and takes a lot of homework and parts collecting before you can really plunge into it, and it's not just something you and a buddy can hammer out in a day. There's a LOT of modifications to do, the driveline including.
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Do you have any pictures on flat land? So i can see what it looks like straight

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