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Old 10-22-2013, 05:54 PM   #1
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clutch help please

I'm putting in a new clutch plate and pressure plate but it looks a little different. Can anyone tell me if this looks ok to use? The old clutch plate looks like it used a spacer but the new one doesn't look like it has one. Here are some pictures take a look and help! Lol

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Old 10-22-2013, 06:07 PM   #2
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:12 PM   #3
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this is the link to what i bought
Omix-Ada 16903.01 Junior Clutch Kit : Amazon.com : Automotive

It is a 4cyl w/ ax5 transmission
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Old 10-22-2013, 07:57 PM   #4
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Add says its for a 4 cylinder. Match to the old check the spline count on the disk but yes that looks right.
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:50 PM   #5
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Why would there be no spacer on the new one?

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Old 10-22-2013, 08:52 PM   #6
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And to be sure the raised end goes down into the pressure plate and the flat side to the flywheel?
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:58 PM   #7
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Oh and the new only has 4 springs vs the 6 springs on the old one

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Old 10-22-2013, 09:25 PM   #8
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It's still good use it
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Old 11-01-2013, 02:42 PM   #9
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ok so my problem is I am getting no contact when pressing in the clutch pedal, Im 99% sure the problem is using the clutch disc without the spacer. I cant find any information about the clutch disc having a spacer on it..... can anyone help me out
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Old 11-02-2013, 10:01 AM   #10
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Old 11-02-2013, 10:44 AM   #11
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I did not use any spacers.
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Old 11-02-2013, 12:15 PM   #12
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But did your old one have a spacer on it like mine?
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Old 11-02-2013, 01:59 PM   #13
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I'd just like to know how the transmission input shaft go through the pressure plate with no hole in the center?
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:50 PM   #14
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The clutch disc rides on the shaft an doesn't make any other contact with the tranny. The throw out beating rides on the fingers of the pressure plate. As long as the spline count on the disc is right it should work. The clutch pedal not disengaging the clutch has nothing to do with the dis just the pressure plate.
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Old 11-02-2013, 03:03 PM   #15
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I understand how a clutch works, but the pressure plate shown in the pics has no center hole for the transmission input shaft to go through. If the input shaft can't extend through the center of the pressure plate, it can't go through the clutch disk, because the clutch disk is between the pressure plate and flywheel. There is no way that I see the engine will even turn the transmission because the input shaft wont even go into the clutch disk.
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Old 11-02-2013, 03:15 PM   #16
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So what could it be then? I feel like if there was a spacer behind the slave It would be able to engage/disengage. I thought maybe I needed to bleed it better, but I've sunk countless hours bleeding it for no change.
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Old 11-02-2013, 03:28 PM   #17
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When you put in the new clutch did you use the tool to align the clutch disk to the pilot bushing before you tightened the pressure plate down?
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Old 11-02-2013, 03:41 PM   #18
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When you put in the new clutch did you use the tool to align the clutch disk to the pilot bushing before you tightened the pressure plate down?
Yep, I used the tool to line it all up
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I'm putting in a new clutch plate and pressure plate but it looks a little different. Can anyone tell me if this looks ok to use? The old clutch plate looks like it used a spacer but the new one doesn't look like it has one. Here are some pictures take a look and help! Lol
Did you change the flywheel? If its the original one and it was re surfaced then you would need a spacer to make up for the material that was removed. For example if they took off .020" to make it flat and true then you would need a .020" shim. Or did you put the disk in backwards?
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Old 11-02-2013, 10:00 PM   #20
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Its the original, but I don't think that would be the problem with the new material from the clutch plate and pressure plate. I would think it would offset and I had no problem with the clutch before I replaced it. The only reason I replaced it was bc I had the transmission off already
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Its the original, but I don't think that would be the problem with the new material from the clutch plate and pressure plate. I would think it would offset and I had no problem with the clutch before I replaced it. The only reason I replaced it was bc I had the transmission off already
The only other resion I could think of is the disk getting put on backwards. It should say "this side to flywheel". I replaced my clutch and I had no spacers. Although I keep having issues with my internal slave. Dont feel bad I'm droping my trans for the third time to replace the slave for the third time to!
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Old 11-02-2013, 10:19 PM   #22
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Haha this will be my 4th time the last time a guy sold me a bum transfer case and I thought it was a bad trans! I double checked the clutch when I had it off last time. I'm at wits end with this thing! I should of invested in buying a transmission jack rather than renting one at this point
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Haha this will be my 4th time the last time a guy sold me a bum transfer case and I thought it was a bad trans! I double checked the clutch when I had it off last time. I'm at wits end with this thing! I should of invested in buying a transmission jack rather than renting one at this point
You been doing it on the ground or lift ? I borrow the jack at the local high school bus garage my brother works at... it nice doing it on my lift.
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Old 11-02-2013, 10:30 PM   #24
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On the ground in my driveway...not quite as nice as having a lift
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So I started it up in reverse and I has some smoke come up from the clutch area, turned it off and now its stuck in reverse lol
Wtf!!
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:48 PM   #26
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Ok so I tore it down this morning. When I put the pressure plate on I used a impact wrench so I just assumed they were tight enough. Well I was wrong bc when I checked them they were all loose as hell. Lesson Learned!!
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Ok so I tore it down this morning. When I put the pressure plate on I used a impact wrench so I just assumed they were tight enough. Well I was wrong bc when I checked them they were all loose as hell. Lesson Learned!!
Wow. Your lucky it didn't let lose when it was running! I used a impact gun and really tightened the hell out of the bolts! Eather u need a stronger impact or a torque wrench. I'm sure there's Torque specs somewhere or something if you really wanted to look.

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