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Old 03-17-2008, 09:07 AM   #1
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clutch hydraulic issue help!!!!

After I use it for a while it gets hard to put it in gear and I have to start it in reverse to get it in. I find it very strange that it works perfectly in the morning and then gets harder to use. I would really appreciate everyones opinions I am kinda stumped. I may have to get a freakin clutch linkage and do away with the hydraulics.lol

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Old 03-17-2008, 12:51 PM   #2
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sounds like you may have a bad slave did you recently replace the clutch? it sounds like your bleeding air into the system from somewhere the slave is usually the first to go, how ever i would also check the master look on the firewall by the stering colum behind the carpet if it looks like there is a trail of stuff then your master is leaking good luck

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Old 03-17-2008, 02:18 PM   #3
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I agree with the slave issue.It's probably starting to blow out.Keep an eye on your clutch master fluid.If it's getting low you got a leak(probably at the slave).You can hold the wolves at bay for awhile if you keep adding fluid.You really start having problems when you let it go dry and it starts sucking air.Next time it gets hard to put in gear try pumping the pedal 4 or 5 times.You should get your pedal back enough to get it in 1st gear.Keep us posted.
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Old 03-17-2008, 02:19 PM   #4
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the master is brand new all new hard lines and fitting. The slave cylinder is the next thing I will replace.
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Old 03-17-2008, 02:20 PM   #5
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Pumping does not help and I am not loosing any fluid.
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Old 03-17-2008, 02:29 PM   #6
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yeah the slave is sucking air then most likely hope you get it fixed
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:26 PM   #7
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I have the same problem, I just had my clutch replaced and I am going on 200,000+ miles. I can pump the clutch, but sometimes it just drops to the floor. Now, it is getting really hard to shift. I'll shift into firstm the clutch will be pushed all the way in and as soon as I let off the break it'll start moving. I ordered a master cylinder, slave kit and am waiting for it to arrive. Any thoughts from now until then? How do you bleed the line to replace this, in specifics; I am a novice mechanic and am sure that reeves can benefit too!!!!
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:33 PM   #8
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youll need 2 people for this one there is a little bleeder under the jeep on the drivers side open the bleeder screw and put abottle half full of CLEAN brake fluid with a rubber hose submersed in the fluid connect the other side of the hose on the end of the bleader screw and pump the clutch slowly to get all the air out when you no longer see air bubbles close off the screw. in the prosses of this youll want to make sure that the master stays full. good luck
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on my old YJ the slave was broken twice in only 5 years...
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diesel, you clearly said it is hydraulic, and i know you are no slouch. but does the pedal feel the same when it acts up? pumping doesn't help, does the pedal ever feel soft, spongy, or go down to the floor? i'm just wondering since you said its hard to put in gear if you could have a syncro problem. my first yj eventually got that way with worn syncros, going from reverse to first always worked, 1st is mainly in line from reverse, thus allowing it to engage easier. i don't remember what trans you ran with that motor. just a thought.
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Sounds a little similar. Reverse has always been difficult, but now it's shifting all togehter. The peddle does go to the floor, spongy. It just drops, and when I shift in first, I don't even have to let up, it's starting to go!!!!
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diesel, you clearly said it is hydraulic, and i know you are no slouch. but does the pedal feel the same when it acts up? pumping doesn't help, does the pedal ever feel soft, spongy, or go down to the floor? i'm just wondering since you said its hard to put in gear if you could have a syncro problem. my first yj eventually got that way with worn syncros, going from reverse to first always worked, 1st is mainly in line from reverse, thus allowing it to engage easier. i don't remember what trans you ran with that motor. just a thought.
Never goes to the floor however it does get a little softer. The tranny is brand new so my syncros are good.
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Old 03-18-2008, 08:57 AM   #13
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I've been having the same issue with my mint low-miles '88 four cylinder.

The clutch pedal has to actually hit the floorboard before I can shift easily, and even then, it's marginal getting into first or reverse.

The master cylinder was leaking a bit so I just replaced it new and bled the system. Pedal travel is still just the same, has to hit the floor. Not "spongey," and there is very little "lost motion" or free play in the pushrod, so that's not the problem.

It's as if the pedal doesn't have enough throw - needs to go one more inch down, but the floor gets in the way...

Is this a basic design problem with the YJ? Is there a fix?

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Old 03-18-2008, 09:26 AM   #14
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I heated mine and bent the clutch pedal up about and inch when I first had this prob. that helped some it may be adequate for your application.

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