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Old 11-01-2011, 09:25 PM   #1
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Clutch problems ,wont go into any gear ?

Hey guys the other night during our freak snow storm,I came to an intersection and went to put the tranny in first gear to take off and it wouldnt go into gear,any gear actually, if you pushed on the shifter to try and force it you would get a loud whine .Reverse would actually grind if you tried.I shut the jeep off and it went right into gear ,so I held the clutch in and started the engine,with the clutch in the jeep still wanted to surge forward,but I was able to take off again,gears were very hard to get into but I got home,down shifting was impossibe .Next day got under the hood ,noticed the master was leaking,got under the jeep and noticed the slave had some fluid by the push rod end of it.I replaced both,thanks to Chinazone (Autozone) they sold me a leaking slave,exchanged it for another one bench bled it ,installed it and bled it some more by pumping the slave until no more bubbles came up to the master reservoir .Clutch feels fine and is less than a year old installed by a shop because it was below freezing temps and I had no garage at the time.So to sum it up,new slave and master ,bled very well,no leaks,tranny shifts perfect when engine is off,when engine is started it will whine when trying to put it in any gear 1-5 and reverse grinds ,when its in gear and clutch is fully pushed down jeep still pulls forward and whining gets louder .I dont know for sure but I think the clutch that was put in was from advance autoparts .so do you think the clutch is hosed already ? Any help would be appreciated guys,and sorry for the long post.

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Old 11-01-2011, 09:42 PM   #2
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Slaves that come from advance suck. I work at a shop so we've used quite a few of them. The best way to bleed the air out of the slave and the line is to remove the two bolts for the slave. Lower it so the pushrod is pointing down and work the slave in and out about 1.5-2 inches. Have someone watch for air bubbles. It should have a bleeder screw but if it does don't use it. Btw if your clutch was bad it would slip, not disengage.

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Old 11-02-2011, 07:58 AM   #3
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Slaves that come from advance suck. I work at a shop so we've used quite a few of them. The best way to bleed the air out of the slave and the line is to remove the two bolts for the slave. Lower it so the pushrod is pointing down and work the slave in and out about 1.5-2 inches. Have someone watch for air bubbles. It should have a bleeder screw but if it does don't use it. Btw if your clutch was bad it would slip, not disengage.
Ok ,out of all of the posts I have read yet ,this is the first time I have heard that the pushrod should be pointing down ,makes sense though as it would be easier for the air bubbles to make their way back up the line ,I will definitely try that tonight when I get home from work .It does not have a bleeder screw ,the first one I got from advance did but had no luck with that one either ,then it malfunctioned anyways while trying to bleed it .Thanks for the reply man .
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Ok ,out of all of the posts I have read yet ,this is the first time I have heard that the pushrod should be pointing down .

I read it over and i want to make it more clear. DO NOT USE THE PEDAL. Work the pushrod in and out by hand. I just didn't want anyone to make a bad mistake and shoot the piston out of the slave. Please put the results on here when you finish.
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Old 11-02-2011, 05:09 PM   #5
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I read it over and i want to make it more clear. DO NOT USE THE PEDAL. Work the pushrod in and out by hand. I just didn't want anyone to make a bad mistake and shoot the piston out of the slave. Please put the results on here when you finish.
Yes do not use the pedal,very good advice.Well,just bled it holding the slave vertical,pushrod pointing down,got some air first 10-15 pumps .It cleared up after that, but I continued to pump the slave.No luck,just doesnt seem to have enough power to push the clutch fork inward.So this leads me to my next question,should you be able to push in on the clutch fork by hand ? Tried pushing in on it with a 1/4 inch extension and could not budge it .
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I would not thing so. Nope!
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:27 PM   #7
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No you shouldn't be able to push it in by hand. Its hydraulics, push one in the other comes out. You have a very very common problem. If bleeding it by hand didn't work then you should try to replace your master again. If worst comes to worst you may have belled some fingers off your pressure plate(highly unlikely). Btw I've had to warranty out alot of slave and masters. I even keep spares of each in my toolbox.
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I guess I should try another master ,stealership wants $210.00 for pre-filled unit (slave/master and line ) ,Rock auto has prefilled units too,for $160.00 but there is a couple day waiting period before it even ships .What the hell ,maybe Ill get lucky and advance will sell me a good one !!
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Return the advance one and go to autozone.
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:28 AM   #10
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Return the advance one and go to autozone.
I found one from advance listed on their website that is master and slave pre filled ,sent my wife in to get it today and they said they cannot get it ,warehouse is showing it is out of stock they told her to check back in a couple of weeks .....too funny ! I am going to succumb to the stealership and pay the 210.00 but I am not going to have time to go there until Monday ,Autozone doesnt even stock either part ,if I am going to order then I might as well go O.E. I called local yards and they dont even have any wranglers ,cherokees as I understand are different ,something with the mounting flange of the master .
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Old 11-13-2011, 03:47 PM   #11
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Ok,got new master and slave from stealership ,installed them and is not the issue,today we removed the tranny and found that one of the springs in the pressure plate had come out .It was laying between the clutch and pressure plate,at least it didnt make its way to gauging up the flywheel.Ordered new clutch from NAPA today ,should be in on Tuesday.Does anyone know of any tricks on getting the pilot bearing out without removing the flywheel ?
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Old 11-16-2011, 01:22 PM   #12
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Picked up new clutch kit yesterday ,I wanted a luk clutch kit as I read good things about them ,but nobody seemed to carry it locally and I didnt want to wait for it to come in the mail .The one I got from NAPA turns out to be a luk ,not sure if they make all NAPA clutch parts but thats what I got for my jeep and it was $121.00 for the kit .Finishing everything tonight and should be back on the trails !!!!!!!!

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