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Old 09-20-2013, 01:12 PM   #1
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dana 60 swap help me figure this out!

K so I picked these 60's up last night. Guy told me he took them off a YJ (not sure what they were off before that) so I thought they would fit great with minimal fab work I'm probably not going to put them on until I get my 350sbc in but I just thought I'd do some measurements and planning out before the build. I measured where the springs sit on the axles (perches I think?) On the d60's and on my jeep and where the springs sit on the jeep are to narrow for the perches on the axels so either he didn't get them off a yj or I need to do some work to my springs? Sorry I'm kinda new to the dana 60 swap so any info is really appreciated thanks guys

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Old 09-20-2013, 02:32 PM   #2
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are you doing spring over or under axles

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I think that's what they're set up for ya. I wanted to do it anyways would that make a difference?
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One possibility, the previous owner of the D60's may have out boarded the springs on his YJ if those are full width axles. They do make kits to do that Dave's Customs Unlimited: Full-width Axle Kits..
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Old 09-21-2013, 06:36 AM   #5
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OK thanks! I'll check that out. And ya they're full width for sure. Would you recomend out boarding the springs?
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My rear axles line up with my springs. Its only the front that doesn't and I can't move the perches in on them because the diff is in the way. They're off three inches on each side will the outboard kit provide that much?
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Old 09-21-2013, 09:00 AM   #7
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And how do I find out what my axles are off of? (I.e ford, dodge)
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Looks to me like LP front 60 ball joint and non locking hubs.. I want to say dodge, but just not sure. If your planning to run big tires.. 36"+ I would sell the rear 60, unless someone upgraded from the 30 spline shafts to the bigger 35's a good swap is a 35 spline shafted ford 10.25" sterling 2nd gen would do the job.. can be found for $300 or so in yards.
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My rear axles line up with my springs. Its only the front that doesn't and I can't move the perches in on them because the diff is in the way. They're off three inches on each side will the outboard kit provide that much?
Rear doesn't need out boarded, front does. I would call Dave, he can answer all your questions. BTF (Blue torch fab) also makes a front kit and there could be others.
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I agree with 4Jeepn its probably a Dodge D60 front. It looks like a late 90s Dodge axle but I am not 100% sure. You may be able to get the numbers off the center sections and look them up.

This may help looking for the numbers.
Differential Identification | West Coast Differentials

You should be able to look up the numbers from the axle here.
The Expert - Dana Holding Corporation Product Information for driveshafts, driveshafts, axles, and Drivelines.


If you are new to swapping axles to your YJ there is a lot of work that needs to be done. Do some research on it first, there is a lot to consider before being able to just toss some axles under your rig. I am in the process of doing a D44/60 and I am running all new brake lines, new gas tank, new brake booster & master cylinder Etc.
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I agree with 4Jeepn its probably a Dodge D60 front. It looks like a late 90s Dodge axle but I am not 100% sure. You may be able to get the numbers off the center sections and look them up.

This may help looking for the numbers.
Differential Identification | West Coast Differentials

You should be able to look up the numbers from the axle here.
The Expert - Dana Holding Corporation Product Information for driveshafts, driveshafts, axles, and Drivelines.

If you are new to swapping axles to your YJ there is a lot of work that needs to be done. Do some research on it first, there is a lot to consider before being able to just toss some axles under your rig. I am in the process of doing a D44/60 and I am running all new brake lines, new gas tank, new brake booster & master cylinder Etc.
K I didn't get much from the numbers I got off the axles on the link you gave me but I did call Dave and gave him the measurements between the two front perches and he said they fit a ford so using his ford outboard spring mount kit the would work! But I'd still like to find out exactly what my axles were off of! I got a bunch of numbers from different parts of the axle but again nothing came up. Would more pictures help? Oh and thanks for all the help you guys are great!
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Can try this, should help identify what you have...Pirate4x4.Com - Extreme Four Wheel Drive
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Can try this, should help identify what you have...Pirate4x4.Com - Extreme Four Wheel Drive
K thanks I'm in the process of finding out what its out of now..this is a kingpin right? Because it doesn't look like a ball joint

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looks like a ball joint to me..
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So mines not a king pin then?
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:51 PM   #17
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This just doesn't line up.. So heres what I know about mine. Its 71" from wms to wms, dual piston calipers, ball joints, internal locking hubs that's pretty much all I can find out without ripping the things apart. But these specs don't line up with anything on the website and from what I found out ball joints are bad?
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Old 09-23-2013, 08:58 PM   #18
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It's a dodge, ford never used a low pinion 60 after 1976. Rear could be a 70, look on the webbing of the center chunk
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dodge for sure. no lock outs and has an axle disconnect on the right side.
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It may not help much but I believe Dodge switched to AAM axles in 2003.

Not to try and get you down but its really not the best axle to be putting a lot of effort or money into, they can be weak and have a limited parts selection. I know some Dodge guys look to change them out.

Its kinda like the YJ and older XJ Dana 30, they work but there are better choices.
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K thanks I'm in the process of finding out what its out of now..this is a kingpin right? Because it doesn't look like a ball joint

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You need a 78-79 ford 60 if you want a 60
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Well that's a bummer.. I'll look around for 78-79 ford one I guess does that mean I have to get the matching rear one too?
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Well that's a bummer.. I'll look around for 78-79 ford one I guess does that mean I have to get the matching rear one too?
no, but you will need of course match the gear ratio. The problem is most rear dana 60's in stock form had the same 30 spline shafts as a dana 44. depending on what tires size you plan to run look at ford 10.25's 14 bolts etc... look at lug patterns as well.
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Old 09-28-2013, 10:57 AM   #25
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I'm planning to run tires between 33 and 37 not sure yet. And there's gonna be a pretty beefy 350 put in it.
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How beefy lol
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Between 300 and 350 hp not huge but enough
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Old 09-28-2013, 11:58 AM   #28
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A 44 will take that with ease if you don't wanna spend the coin on a 60
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Ya probly.. But I like the width you get with the 60
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:10 PM   #30
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A full width 44 is identical

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