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Old 10-15-2007, 08:20 PM   #1
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desperatly need help

Okay I have been fighting this gringind starter on my yj. First I was in the process of doing a hei and mc2100 upgrade and while I was trying to get it in time it started to grind when I was trying to crank it over. I replaced the flexplate, starter, battery, batter cable, starter solonoid, timing gears and chain, cap, button, rotor, still grinding. I pulled the distributor out and all the plugs out, turned it over, still grinding.....I am at a lost and I will tell you, my patience is wearing thin....who would have thought trying to troubleshoot a grinding starter would be this difficult and take this long....please help......

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Old 10-15-2007, 08:23 PM   #2
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Try adjusting the warp coil on the main drive..........

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Old 10-15-2007, 08:24 PM   #3
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If you added shims to the starter try taking them out.

Is your trans a manual or auto? Be sure that you have the correct flex plate and that the flex plate wasn't installed backwards.
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:33 PM   #4
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warp coil on the main drive??? I didnt add shims, I didnt think you could add shims. It is an auto tranny.......I know it is the right flexplate, I am pretty sure it is on correctly, I put it on like I took the other one off and the other worked fine, just all of a sudden started to grind.
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Old 10-16-2007, 09:44 PM   #5
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It is not unheard of to get faulty new parts. Take the starter back and try another one. It sounds like it is not engaging properly.
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:00 AM   #6
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i am going to go get a new one, yesterday in the process of taking my starter back off I noticed it isnt fitting flush with the plate that goes in between the housing and block. I got to looking at that plate and it is warped, so I am going to get another plate, I think that is what the problem is.......what do you think??
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:19 PM   #7
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i am going to go get a new one, yesterday in the process of taking my starter back off I noticed it isnt fitting flush with the plate that goes in between the housing and block. I got to looking at that plate and it is warped, so I am going to get another plate, I think that is what the problem is.......what do you think??
Don't know how to put this gently. Replacing parts is NOT the same as fixing something. You spent a lot of money replacing parts and not taking the time to think things through and get advice from others. Look at it this way---getting advice only costs you a little ego---parts cost real money and playing parts replacer takes real time.

Many of us have learned that the hard way. My son is 23 and still discovering how much his Dad knows, if he just asks and shuts up to listen. Darned kid reminds me of his Dad.
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:58 PM   #8
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Don't know how to put this gently. Replacing parts is NOT the same as fixing something. You spent a lot of money replacing parts and not taking the time to think things through and get advice from others. Look at it this way---getting advice only costs you a little ego---parts cost real money and playing parts replacer takes real time.

Many of us have learned that the hard way. My son is 23 and still discovering how much his Dad knows, if he just asks and shuts up to listen. Darned kid reminds me of his Dad.
lol sounds just like my dad, i am 24 and just like your son. what can we say...we are only human
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:58 PM   #9
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lol sounds just like my dad, i am 24 and just like your son. what can we say...we are only human
My Son and I live 150 miles apart. I gave him my 87 Cherokee to drive (own) and have watched him run it into the ground while trying to keep my mouth shut. He finally drove it into the ground and called me begging to use my truck while I was in the area for surgery. He was panicked and just babbling. I told him NO! and that unless he came to me with a plan of action on how he was going to FIX his jeep, to not ask to use my truck. He called back an hour later and very calmly explain how he had talked to his uncle and grandfather, how he was approaching the problem and what help he would like from me.

After I was out of the hospital, still recovering, his uncle, the parts replacer decided that they should start "fixing" it up. They replaced the water pump, radiator, power steering hoses, lower radiator hose and thermostat. They put it all back together WITHOUT FLUSHING THE ENGINE, PUT IN A 195 degree thermostat and it still was overheating. I made him explain everything his uncle had done previously only to find out his uncle MR PARTS REPLACER had stuck a hose in the top of the engine, shot a high speed jet of water into it for about a minute and called it flushed.

Made my Son dump the overflow bottle, drain the new radiator, and check the openning temp. on the thermostat to discover it was openning at 205. Put it all back together with a thermostat set for 180, burped the air out of the hoses, checked the fluid level, and VOILA it runs cool now. Also hard wired the fan through a switch so he could run it himself when the gauge told him it was starting to get hot. You gots to listen to the man!
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:24 PM   #10
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did the grinding start after you replaced the flexplate, if so check the bolts on the flexplate to torq converter. they may not be tight , or to long also crossthreaded and sticking out to far , scraping as you try to crank, pull the cover plate off and turn it over by hand listen very carefully for any scraping noise, just a thought. as pappy has said start from the beginning.

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