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Old 07-18-2013, 09:17 PM   #1
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Frame replacement

Well, after considering all my options, it looks like it will be easier to just replace my frame. The previous owner covered up some serious rot with sheet metal and undercoating. F'n awesome! I have a line on a few used frames. The biggest issue is they are 4cyl frames. I have a 4.0. I was gonna pull the tub off regardless. I know the 4cyl engine mounts are located on the frame in a different spot. However, are they the same frame mounts? Can I simply grind them off and move them to the correct location?

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Old 07-18-2013, 09:37 PM   #2
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they are probably different enough that it would be easier to grind off and use the mounts off your 6cyl frame

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Old 07-18-2013, 10:34 PM   #3
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Thanks to craigslist, I found a frame for a 4.0 from a 93 yj. Rust free and already repainted and mostalined. The asking price is $650 obo. It sounds like a good deal. Opinions? The seller said it was rust free when he bought it for a 95 yj build but he sold his jeep.
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:39 PM   #4
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:54 PM   #5
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if it really is rust free thats not a bad price. you have a rusty one so you should know all the places to check. as it OBO try to talk him down a little.
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:55 PM   #6
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only way to know if it is rust free is to look at it and look for pitted metal or flaking paint

650 seems a little high to me but then I am not looking for one so hard to say.
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:58 PM   #7
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I think he has it priced at 650 because it is already painted and ready to go. I had a chance at one for $400 but it needed sanded and repainted. Plus, it was from a 4cyl and I would have to move the engine mounts.
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Old 07-19-2013, 03:02 PM   #8
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Here is a pic of the front of the frame of considering.
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Old 07-19-2013, 03:58 PM   #9
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What's under the fresh paint???? Like the 8.8 I just picked up looked real good till you sand it down a little. Check it out. If you weren't so far away we have frames here in Vegas $2-400.
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Old 07-19-2013, 04:43 PM   #10
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Here is one of the holes in my frame.
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:47 PM   #11
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Well...gonna drive an hour to check out the frame. The seller has some extra parts to include RC extended brake lines, engine and trans mount, stock leaf springs, and new spring plates. Everything but the frame is new. We have tentatively agreed on $700 for all. Good deal??? I think so if the frame checks out. Remember, I am in PA. Near Pittsburgh. The winters are rough here. Clean jeeps are few and far between.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:15 PM   #12
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Be careful when buying a frame someone has already covered. I looked at numerous frames before i bought mine and the finished ones with a thick coating can hide a lot. make sure you look inside the frame at all the points that you can see in. Look for flaking internally.
if it is a good frame, you might consider the internal frame coating by Eastwood. i did mine and it really covers nicely.
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:50 PM   #13
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I bought it yesterday. I looked in the frame rails with my snake camera. Wow was it clean. I paid $700 and he gave me 2 stick rear leaf packs, new engine and tranny mounts, new in box rough country front and rear stainless brake lines, new front spring mount plates(still in the unopened bag), a clean front sway bar, and a new rough country track bar bracket. Plus, he had purchased the rear shackle hanger plates for his old frame. Prior to coating this frame, he had them welded on for reinforcement. I put my snake camera in the rear of the team rails and it was clean inside. I pulled my entire front clip today. It only took 2 hours. Not bad.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:05 PM   #14
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Glad to hear it turned out to be a good frame. Let us know how the replacement goes
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Old 07-22-2013, 03:39 AM   #15
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I wish I would have found a deal like that when I was looking at repairing/replacing my frame. I ended up going the autorust route since all the frames I found in pa where in the $500 range with the same rust problems. I'm in Lehigh valley and the best frame I found was $950 firm from a 4cyl when I have the 4.2l.

Although the autorust turned out very nice. Believe it or not the first picture was the good side of my frame that I cut off. The other side blew apart when I hit it with a torch. I ended up getting rear ended which cracked the back bumper and right side of the frame. The welds aren't the cleanest or best looking but they hold up just fine with the abuse I put the jeep through. The po saw the rust problem and his fix was to cut the back bumper off and tac plates on the inside and outside of the frame. It was a nightmare cutting out the frame I have no idea how someone could tac a plate on the inside of the frame back where the hump is.
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