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Old 01-16-2012, 06:17 PM   #1
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Help with getting sound set up...

So my YJ has an old school aftermarket cd deck that skips since the jeep bounces a lot... Sooo annoying. So I'd like to get a new deck and I'm either getting a Sony or Pioneer. BUT I need help when it comes to picking the right AMP and SUB.
I don't want it to "hit hard", like to make cars alarms go off.. That's a bit too much. I want something moderate and clear (not distorted).
My problem is IDK what wattage is good and what sub would b compatible with what amp.
I would have to take it to someone to install it... Or do u think I should just go to one of those whole in the wall shops?
Any suggestions?

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A lot of those "hole in the wall shops" actually contain people that know what they're doing when it comes to audio setups. I would check with a few of them to see what's best for you.

One mans "ideal" low powered setup might not be enough for you.

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Old 01-16-2012, 07:14 PM   #3
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A single 10" sub in a sealed truck style box will fit nicely behind the back seat. It will sound good with the sealed box, don't get a ported box. A bridged 2 channel amp with a wattage of 400-450 will push it just fine. I would look into getting marine grade speakers as they are waterproof and hold up well in the jeep. Bazooka makes some nice ones (amps & speakers) I have that set up with 2 marine grade 6x9's and two new dash speakers, which are 4x6. As far as decks go, I would look at Sony marine decks as they have waterproof circuit boards.
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Old 01-16-2012, 09:23 PM   #4
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What to u guys think about these::

*Sony DSX-S300BTX (Item# 158DSX300B)Deck

*Bazooka BT1028DVC (Item# 204BT1028) Sub

*Pioneer GM-5500T (Item# 130GM5500T) Amp

Let me know..
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Old 01-16-2012, 09:25 PM   #5
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(from CRUTCHFIELD btw)
Haven't purchased yet...

It's about $500+tax.. (there is gonna go my rent lol)
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Old 01-16-2012, 09:53 PM   #6
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If you plan on taking it off road I would suggest making sure the system is somewhat water resistant at the least
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Old 01-16-2012, 09:57 PM   #7
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If you plan on taking it off road I would suggest making sure the system is somewhat water resistant at the least
Kool thank u
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Old 01-16-2012, 10:00 PM   #8
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Wonder how much a shop would charge me to install
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Do the installation yourself. It's a LOT easier and not nearly as daunting as it seems. Everything is relatively straight forward.
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The deck is great! the bazooka tube is nice since it is all plastic so no worries about getting it wet but the dual 8 ohm voice coil kinda sucks. The amp might be under powering that sub a bit.

I dont want to complicate things with quoting Ohms law and other boring stuff like that. But I will say go check out those local shops, they always staff great technicians and they will be able to tell you what sounds best in a Jeep. since you cant just throw a few things together and get good sound.
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Very true and yup I like the deck! It's sexy.
And I will see a shop, but I also emailed CRUTCHFIELD regarding this to c what they say.
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Do the installation yourself. It's a LOT easier and not nearly as daunting as it seems. Everything is relatively straight forward.
I'm scared! I don't have tools and I'm afraid of burning something
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im anxious to hear how it all turns out... i am looking into redoing my whole system next month when i get taxes back. good luck
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Very true and yup I like the deck! It's sexy.
And I will see a shop, but I also emailed CRUTCHFIELD regarding this to c what they say.

Not to dog on crutchfield cause its a good place to get information on the products, but it IS NOT a good place to get information on how things work in the cars. They dont staff technicians or installers who have real world experience on installing car audio. They staff sales people who read the web page just like you and I can and make decisions based on that information.

Heres a few pointers on amp/sub relations.
1) get an amp thats too big for your subwoofer, you can always turn down the power on a big amp. But when you turn the power up on a small amp (to try to get max power out of it) it will sound really bad.

2) if possible listen to the setup before you purchase it. Everyone hears things differently, something sounds great to me might make you cringe.

3) at least try to do the install yourself first. Its really only a few wires for the amp and sub, and the radio should be a direct plug in with the proper adapters. The wrangler is very easy to work on and you will have a great sense of pride coming from the fact that you at least tried the install.

Good luck and enjoy!
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Old 01-16-2012, 10:28 PM   #15
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How am I supposed to listen to a set up online? Lol
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I'm scared! I don't have tools and I'm afraid of burning something
Once you have everything in front of you it will look a lot easier. The amp is going to have power cables, so hook the positive to the battery and ground the negative. Hook the RCA cables into the back of your stereo unit. Then hook up the remaining wires to the sub using the + and - orientation. Pretty straightforward.

On the other hand you can get one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0032FOJXE?tag=ching10-20

As long as you don't keep it all the way up all of the time it will work for quite a while. Will fit right underneath the rear seat as well to keep it out of view.
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Old 01-16-2012, 10:34 PM   #17
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Guess I could just the head unit from CRUTCHFIELD (I really like it) and just buy the other stuff from shop ( of they don't the same deck that is)
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How am I supposed to listen to a set up online? Lol

HAHA Funny man lol.. right you are! I try to support the local shops since I worked at a major retailer and I know how much they upsell their stuff for. Usually 50% to 75% markup on car audio related items.
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Wal-Mart sells amp wiring kits. They have them for good prices. I used it to install my amp and my sub. It gives you pretty straight forward instructions and all you really need is some speaker wire and hardware. And you're only dealing with a few feet depending on where you place everything. Good luck!
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Do the installation yourself. It's a LOT easier and not nearly as daunting as it seems. Everything is relatively straight forward.
Seconded. I'm about to re-wire and move my stereo into my center console this weekend. There isn't much to wiring up your stereo outside of properly labeling things when you disconnect them, using heat shrink tubing everywhere for weatherproofing and making sure you test everything along the way. A stereo install shouldn't take more than 1-2 hours for even the most novice installer since the Jeep is easy enough to work on.
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Old 01-17-2012, 01:24 PM   #21
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Sooo this is what the CRUTCHFIELD advisor emailed me....

"Hello Krysta,

Thanks for your e-mail, and for shopping the Crutchfield web site.

I think that the Pioneer amp will work great with the Bazooka subwoofer. If you bridge the two channels together and wire it to a 2 ohm load you will be pushing around 400 watts and the subwoofer is rated at 500 watts. This is right at 80% and we recommend that you be within 70-100% of the subs capability so it is a good match."


BUT I read that I need to buy a amp that is rated at more wattage than the sub to get the best sound out of it...

What do u think?
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they are full of crap since the subwoofer in the link is a dual 8 ohm sub. Now I am going to go into ohms law a bit. Dual 8 ohm can only be wired 2 ways, in series and parallel. depending on how you hook it up it can be wired to show the amp a 4 ohm load or 16 ohm load. You can only half or double the load with dual voice coil subs. Therefore its impossible to wire that particular setup to 2 ohms. Its really confusing but this clearly proves the earlier comment on how they have no clue >< so sorry to rant here. Just take it to a local shop and they will tell you exactly what you need. If your worried about best prices then take the model numbers they give you and go online to see what the best price you can find is and take that printout back to that local shop and they may or may not match it. Good luck on your sound system hope it all works out for you in the long run
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I emailed them back questioning his suggestion and he said :

"Hello Krysta,

Thanks for your e-mail, and for shopping the Crutchfield web site.

Blake is currently unavailable through e-mail but I will be happy to assist. One thing I need to clarify, I am certain Blake meant to say this instead, you will wire your sub to a 4-ohm load not a 2-ohm load. The sub has dual 8-ohm voice coils that you will wire in parallel to get a 4-ohm load.

You will bridge your amp to a 4-ohm load to match. That will push 400 watts to a 500 watt sub. That will be a fine match. As long as you are giving the sub at least 70% of the required RMS power rating you will be in good shape. You can go higher for better quality. If you wish to go this route I recommend:


http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/P...p?i=113KAC9105

This is the amp kit you will need:

http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/P...asp?i=575RFK4X "
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Btw ya think ima shop elsewhere cause CRUTCHFIELD has that amp they just recommended for $299... And found it on amazon at $179!!
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if you wont the best bang for your buck. i would go with a kicker cvt its about 400 rms witch is true consistent power watts dont really matter rms is what you wont too look at.a good deasent amp that pushes around 500 rms at 4 ohm. the kicker cvt is ment to be in really small enclosures i have had them in my gmc and they are really crisp sounding 1 10 or 12 should be enough. usally yhe smaller the box the better they sound. go with a nice 4 guage wire kit please dont get lame 8 guage wire kit. you should spend around 400 to 500 for the sub,box,wires,and deck GO WITH PIONEER!! You can usually get everything really cheap on ebay look for a topsealer.
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Thank u California. >.<
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i looked up the systom and the sub and box are 113 free shiping a rally nice kenwood class d amp with 500 rms at 4 ohm 135 free shiping and pioneer deck 65 free shiping 4 guage amp kit28 free shiping
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I personally wouldn't go with a pioneer head unit. Mine broke under average use in under a year. I emailed pioneer and they never replied. Sent out 2 more emails, no reply. I personally like Sony head units. The quality is overall better in my first hand experience.

I like pioneers speakers though. But my friends Polk audio component speakers top the pioneers easily, plus they're water proof. I have two 6.5 inch pioneers in my sound bar running off of a 400 watt dual amplifier. They're pretty good, but as said earlier, the polks top them.

I have a pioneer 820 watt amp (400 watts at 4 ohms rms when 2 channels are bridged) and I'm running an Mtx 10 inch subwoofer off of it. I love the Mtx. It's a 400 watt rms sub so it's powered perfectly by the amp and it sounds great! Shakes my jeep pretty good. You can turn the power on the amp down though if you don't want hard hitting bass. If you want the name of the sub let me know. It's a very clear sounding sub.
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@california I don't want cheap head unit... Well.. Not that cheap anyways lol I like Sony... I've had them before. One went with my integra when I sold it n the other one went with my prelude n the last one got stolen out of my WJ lol (forgot to take the front off) ugh

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