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Old 04-06-2014, 04:40 PM   #1
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How stiff should my front be?

Ok here is the low down. A while back I bought my 87 YJ. Yeah I noticed the front suspension was really stiff and the back had some give. Of course I have one of those "know it all uncles" who "researches" everything and knows anything their is to know about anything. I am pretty sure he has Jeep Envy. Anyhow his opinion is that the front should not be that stiff at all. That all jeeps should have a smoother softer suspension. That there is no sport purpose for a stiff suspension (sand, mudding, rock crawling, etc.) 3" body lift which should have nothing to do with it. And I don't believe any suspension modification with the exception to skyjacker 7000 shocks. granted I bought it that way and newish to the jeep scene so I don't think there is anything else suspension wise done. According to him it is stiffer than any "ranch" jeep he has ever driven. So is he right? Or just suffering from severe Jeep Envy? or Both?

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Old 04-06-2014, 04:58 PM   #2
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If you remove your track bar and sway bar, your jeep should be as smooth as all those jeeps hes talking about.

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Old 04-06-2014, 05:04 PM   #3
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Yup my front sway bar was locked up, which made it stiff. I just removed it completely and its all better. If you do discover the same issue, and want to keep the sway bar, you can buy new bushings for like $12.
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So if I do this I shouldn't be able to 'count change' anymore with my front end?
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Old 04-06-2014, 05:24 PM   #5
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It should make world of difference but it wont matter... after you have your jeep a while there wont be any change left to count
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Old 04-06-2014, 05:51 PM   #6
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I hear ya! I have to keep reminding myself that I don't need to have all my mods right now.... Pace myself lol.
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Old 04-06-2014, 05:52 PM   #7
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Another area is shackle bolts. Try loosening them to about 45#. Over time the shackle bolt will rust inside the spring eye sleeve and the sleeve will fuse to the bushing, this will give you a very jarring ride. You may want to get new spring eye bushings and greasable shackle bolts, this would be a very inexpensive fix.
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Old 04-06-2014, 05:59 PM   #8
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Well I'll just have to try both. It damn sure won't hurt.
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Old 04-06-2014, 06:36 PM   #10
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I hear ya! I have to keep reminding myself that I don't need to have all my mods right now.... Pace myself lol.
Im guessing most of us here face that struggle. Being patient always pays off in the end, but ive had my yj a long time and still suck at it
Good luck. It sounds like youre already loving your jeep!
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Yes.

I believe youre looking at both ends of the springs. The main eye set would give you all 4 frame bushing sets. The other set is for the shackles. You might start with one schackle set for the front and see how you like them.
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:17 PM   #12
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Ok that makes sense. That will help spread the spending out too.

Yeah it is one of my obsessions now. I spending 14 days offshore working and thinking of stuff to do with or to the Jeep. I do think about my family also.... but yeah the Jeep too.
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:32 PM   #13
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Pretty new to Jeeps of course.... so pardon the serious of questions that might be obvious. But do I just remove the front track bar?
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:45 PM   #14
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Yes. The track bar was added when it went from a cj to a yj to help keep the axle centered. The leaf springs keep it centered so a lot of people remove both the front and back track completely and experience a much smoother ride.
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It should make world of difference but it wont matter... after you have your jeep a while there wont be any change left to count
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I hear ya! I have to keep reminding myself that I don't need to have all my mods right now.... Pace myself lol.
I'd really like to know how many of us said "I'll just pace myself" lol. Once you've been bitten, a hobby turns into an obsession…real quick
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I'd really like to know how many of us said "I'll just pace myself" lol. Once you've been bitten, a hobby turns into an obsession…real quick
Boy ain't that the truth! I finally called my insurance and told them I want to insure this bugger as a classic because of all the money I've put in it. They're coming to take photos and check receipts. I'll easily have $10,000 in this very soon, and I've done the work myself.
Of course my other option was to buy a RZR which cost more than that stock, and would not be as much fun IMHO. I have my Sportsman 800 if I want to go small and fast.
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Boy ain't that the truth! I finally called my insurance and told them I want to insure this bugger as a classic because of all the money I've put in it. They're coming to take photos and check receipts. I'll easily have $10,000 in this very soon, and I've done the work myself. Of course my other option was to buy a RZR which cost more than that stock, and would not be as much fun IMHO. I have my Sportsman 800 if I want to go small and fast.
I find myself trolling craigslist in all six New England states almost every day looking for YJ parts I can use lol. "Hello, my name's Nick, and I'm a jeepaholic."
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Will removing the track bars increase my chances of having death wobbles?
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Old 04-07-2014, 09:00 PM   #19
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Will removing the track bars increase my chances of having death wobbles?
Removing your track bars increases your chances of awesome. As a matter of fact, the most you can do with them is mall crawl.

You have a decision to make...
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Removing your track bars increases your chances of awesome.
Chances of awesome...I like it.
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Old 04-10-2014, 04:00 PM   #21
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UPDATE:

So I got home and took both front and back track bars off. Wayyyy smoother. Thanks guys!

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