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Old 10-05-2013, 02:22 PM   #1
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Is this broken?

Is it broken? Easy fix? What the heck is it?
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Old 10-05-2013, 02:34 PM   #2
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no not broken. Just bent straight. Mine is a horseshoe shaped.

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Old 10-05-2013, 02:38 PM   #3
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What is it and what does it do?
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Old 10-05-2013, 03:17 PM   #4
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lol I have no idea.
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Old 10-05-2013, 03:30 PM   #5
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its not broken, just bent. it is supposed to be in the slots where the 2 bolts are on the tie rod sleeve. It doesn't actually serve a purpose othe than keeping everything in line on the tie rod. As long as those bolts stay tight, the tie rod wont rotate.
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Old 10-05-2013, 03:38 PM   #6
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@trucking: thanks for your honesty and help hahaha
@life: thank you bud, I was hoping it was nothing serious, haha thanks again.
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Old 10-05-2013, 03:47 PM   #7
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I got a unrelated question for you guys. Have you ever heard of taking s10 rear leaf springs apart and putting a leaf in the yjs pack to get about three inches of lift. It's called a "bastard lift"
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Old 10-05-2013, 05:54 PM   #8
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I got a unrelated question for you guys. Have you ever heard of taking s10 rear leaf springs apart and putting a leaf in the yjs pack to get about three inches of lift. It's called a "bastard lift"
Heard about but have not seen it in application. A lot of XJ guys swear by it.

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Old 10-05-2013, 05:59 PM   #9
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From what I've seen it looks pretty easy. I'm thinking of doing it to my yj. If I do, I'll do a write up about it.
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Old 10-06-2013, 08:17 AM   #10
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yeah I have always wondered what that thing was But never asked.
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Bastard pack refers to adding leafs from other than YJ vehicles and maybe removing a stock YJ. S10, Dakota, F150, etc. are donor rigs. In doing this, you want to make sure the other leafs are same width, not thinner in thickness, and when laid on its tips, not flatter than the YJ individual leaf.
When assembling, go by longer leaf first, ie the main leaf has rolled ends, then next longer leaf, and so on. You don't want to have a shorter leaf with a longer leaf under it when assembling.
Also be concerned if you are keeping it SUA or going SOA. Adding thicker leafs is raising the carrying capacity and potentially can help with axle wrap, but it can reduce flex/articulation due to its thickness (double thick for example). If you are SUA, a thick spring pack will loose ground clearance under the axle. If you are SOA, a thick spring pack actually adds lift as well.

Lastly, many discuss the fabbing of 'military wrap' using XJ leafs. The rolled end (spring eye) on one end of the XJ main leaf is large in diameter. You remove the bushing and cut enough so that it wraps around your main spring eye. You may have to redrill the center bolt hole to match your spring pack and you are going to have to cut the other end of the eye off. Taper the end and grind edges smooth. Obviously, military wrap springs are the second spring during the assemble.

Leafs are manufactured using heat and cooling processes. Try not to localize heat to effect the materials capability.
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Bastard pack refers to adding leafs from other than YJ vehicles and maybe removing a stock YJ. S10, Dakota, F150, etc. are donor rigs. In doing this, you want to make sure the other leafs are same width, not thinner in thickness, and when laid on its tips, not flatter than the YJ individual leaf.
When assembling, go by longer leaf first, ie the main leaf has rolled ends, then next longer leaf, and so on. You don't want to have a shorter leaf with a longer leaf under it when assembling.
Also be concerned if you are keeping it SUA or going SOA. Adding thicker leafs is raising the carrying capacity and potentially can help with axle wrap, but it can reduce flex/articulation due to its thickness (double thick for example). If you are SUA, a thick spring pack will loose ground clearance under the axle. If you are SOA, a thick spring pack actually adds lift as well.

Lastly, many discuss the fabbing of 'military wrap' using XJ leafs. The rolled end (spring eye) on one end of the XJ main leaf is large in diameter. You remove the bushing and cut enough so that it wraps around your main spring eye. You may have to redrill the center bolt hole to match your spring pack and you are going to have to cut the other end of the eye off. Taper the end and grind edges smooth. Obviously, military wrap springs are the second spring during the assemble.

Leafs are manufactured using heat and cooling processes. Try not to localize heat to effect the materials capability.



Wow, sounds like you know a thing or two about this hahaha. Mine are SUA, that being said if I add one leaf to each pack, how much lift will it give me? Or maybe I should ask, what donor springs should I use to achieve 2.5-3 inches of lift? And would I have to get new shocks with this kind of lift?
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Check out this link also, searched for it here on wrangler forum. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/s...led-yj-752903/
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Adding the s10 springs will not give you 3" of lift. That works on XJ's because they are spring over axle application, and the s-10 is spring under. that is why it will give that much lift.
I am not saying that it will not lift it at all, I just don't think you will get 3".
I have done a few like that on my XJ's, and they do work very well, by keeping only the main XJ spring and adding the s-10 to the pack with the eyes cut off.
Most YJ springs are flat or inverted by now, and a LONG add a leaf can help a lot.
My best advice is to save up and buy a real lift, you will be happier in the end. You can spend a lot of money over a period of time and never get the results that decent lift will give you

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