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Old 12-19-2011, 04:28 PM   #1
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Just spent 1600$ for rims and 33's, I hope I did the right thing...

Ok, so I just pulled the trigger on rims and tires for my 95 yj 2.5 which I ordered and have not paid yet..... I got 4 eagle 100 15x8 black rims and 33x11.5 hancook dynapro MT. here are some pictures but the rims I got have the simulated bead lock. I have some questions about price and if these will work for my ride.

I went to Preston Tire and the owner literally has the same Jeep I do. He told me that 33's were the only way to go but I will need to re-gear at some point which will run about a 1000$. I just put a 4' RC lift so he said I should have clearance.

My question is : Will it be terrible to run this setup till I can afford the regear?
I paid 1600$ out the door for the setup with everything...Is this a good price?
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seems like these questions should have been asked before you ordered them.

I don't know why you would want simulated bead lock wheels? If you like the look just get bead locks.

as for the tires, I hope you live in a flat place, because 33's on a 2.5 is going to get frustrating to drive. I just put 31's on my 89 2.5 and there is one steep hill between home and work that i have down shift the third for now. Also, I got my tires from Treadwright.com They are BFG AT, and they were $500 S&H included. I know they are retreads, but I only have heard good things about treadwirght tires, and my friend has had his for years without any problems. The only people I see speaking badly about retreads are people who have never used them.

IMHO I think you are over paying, and pushing your rig trying to do 33's without re grearing. Also, I am not a very trusting person, and I really don't trust the person trying to sell me anything. Remember his best interest is sending you out the door spending the most amount possible, and feeling good about it.

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Old 12-19-2011, 05:21 PM   #3
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I ordered at full set of custom H1 wheels and 37 12.50 16.5R goodyear tires for $1600 plus $252 for shipping. Back in February i bought a set of 36 13.5 15R Swamper Iroks with Procomp black steel wheels 15x10 for $1350 from 4wheelparts. I think you over paid for what you got.
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Good points.... The thing about simulated bead-locks is that the thick metal placed on the outside of the rim provides just a little bit more strength and protection against rock rash. Honestly, I am not really concerned about downshifting to go up a hill, I am worried about pushing my Dana 35 to failure and getting me stuck when I need it the most. I do plan to re-gear but I am just wondering if I am going to destroy something if I don't do it right away.

I have read a few off road articles on tires and these are supposed to be really really good. The Goodyear Kevlar sidewalls are said to be the only better tire when tested but those are 300$+ each so no way.

Your right about the tire dealers but I do have a business account with these guys and the owner literally showed me his Jeep which was exactly the same as mine, all upgraded though. Then he showed me a 120,000$ Jeep with a Hemi engine that they have been building for a customer and that was honestly the nicest off-road vehicle I had ever seen.

I posted the wrong rims.... these are the ones I got...Doh!
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My wheels dont simulate bead locks they are full bead locks and cost around the same as your wheels.
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My wheels dont simulate bead locks they are full bead locks and cost around the same as your wheels.
Ok, cool guy.... but it is illegal to run bead-locks on the street.... are your rims steel?
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I'm just starting to build my third YJ and from experience I'd definitely go with the regear sooner rather than later. If you're mainly doing city driving it's not much of an issue, but highway speeds can be difficult to maintain. As for the tire/wheel package I feel like you may have over-paid a bit. I just ordered 35x12.50R15 BFG Mud Terrains and 15x10 Ultra Polished wheels from Ebay for $1377.00 (free shipping too).
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I'm just starting to build my third YJ and from experience I'd definitely go with the regear sooner rather than later. If you're mainly doing city driving it's not much of an issue, but highway speeds can be difficult to maintain. As for the tire/wheel package I feel like you may have over-paid a bit. I just ordered 35x12.50R15 BFG Mud Terrains and 15x10 Ultra Polished wheels from Ebay for $1377.00 (free shipping too).
I haven't paid yet but the ticket is actually 1473$ with tire balance and everything included/tax. I kinda just said 1600 cause I was in the moment so I apologize for not being exact. But I have not paid yet or anything. I have done some research and I cant really find a lower price I guess. Maybe 20-30$.. I will keep in mind about regearing. It seems I may have been talked into that so they can get some work off me, I really do want 33's though so it is what it is.
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Yeah, that's not too bad from a local dealer. Gotta take into account destination fees, etc. when buying locally. It's just crazy how tires have gone through the roof in the past two or three years. When I bought my last set (35x1250/15 MT Baja Claw Radials w/ MT Classic Lock) I paid less for the entire package than just the tires would cost me now. It's crazy. I'm with you though, if it's what you want, just go with it.
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don't forget to make sure you get rims with enough back spacing.. um.. I'd get 5 wheels and tires but hey thats just me.. I've never seen a dynapro mt rt03 in 33x11.5/15.. Only 32x11.5/15 and 33x12.5/15.. For the Hankooks in a 33x12.5/15 you shouldn't pay no more then 215-230 bucks per tire
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I was always told that it was illegal to run retreads on any steering axle, not to smart either if the tread works loose from the casing at highway speed I wouldn't want to be the one driving or close by!! Just my two cents
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Ok, cool guy.... but it is illegal to run bead-locks on the street.... are your rims steel?
i would love to see where it says that.
i have looked good and heard for anything that proves that to be true, and i have yet to find anything.
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New 33's are gonna be expensive. At least a grand, then plus taxes and insurance.

Then you have the new rims ... I think the price is definately up there, precisely because you went new and not cheap. I wouldn't say you got a good price, you just bought regular price ... is that a deal? I don't think so. I bet the owner didn't mention his discount or buying at cost price to you.

Price is up especially when some of us on here buy are rigs for maybe around $3k and fix them up with used parts and such.

Question on your previous thread alcapon1: I have steel rims and they have bead locks ... are you saying it's illegal to run the bead locks with aluminum and ok to run them with steel?
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I was always told that it was illegal to run retreads on any steering axle, not to smart either if the tread works loose from the casing at highway speed I wouldn't want to be the one driving or close by!! Just my two cents
These aren't retreads from the 70's, There is really no extra risk with modern retreads separating, and I have yet to see any laws that talk about retreads being illegal. All the SCHOOL buses and city buses around hear use treadwirght tires. Like I said, I have never read a bad review about them from anyone who has used them, only heard stories from people who are to scared to try them. I also ready a study that found that most exploded tires that you use to see on the road where virgin tires that where run ether with too little pressure, or to much weight.
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i would love to see where it says that.
i have looked good and heard for anything that proves that to be true, and i have yet to find anything.
Dude, in California everything is illegal....I work for a company and service shop where we do trailers and mods to service spec. A tire shop has to tell people that it is illegal for liability. I just had a conversation about this with the owner of a major tire shop... Its illegal. He stated that he disagreed with a guy on installing it on his 120,000$ Hemi modified Jeep but the guy insisted. He did it for him only saying Yes because the customer brings in massive amount of business. Even though he could get in trouble, he was pissed because the thing was obviously for the street with its handycap plate.
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New 33's are gonna be expensive. At least a grand, then plus taxes and insurance.

Then you have the new rims ... I think the price is definately up there, precisely because you went new and not cheap. I wouldn't say you got a good price, you just bought regular price ... is that a deal? I don't think so. I bet the owner didn't mention his discount or buying at cost price to you.

Price is up especially when some of us on here buy are rigs for maybe around $3k and fix them up with used parts and such.

Question on your previous thread alcapon1: I have steel rims and they have bead locks ... are you saying it's illegal to run the bead locks with aluminum and ok to run them with steel?
No, a steel rim is just cheaper then Alloy so I was making a point about cost
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I've known a few people who have run the guard dog mt's.. They performed well and held up well on the road.. Every once and awhile the idea of buying them one day has crossed my mine
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These aren't retreads from the 70's, There is really no extra risk with modern retreads separating, and I have yet to see any laws that talk about retreads being illegal. All the SCHOOL buses and city buses around hear use treadwirght tires. Like I said, I have never read a bad review about them from anyone who has used them, only heard stories from people who are to scared to try them. I also ready a study that found that most exploded tires that you use to see on the road where virgin tires that where run ether with too little pressure, or to much weight.
Not to argue with you I drive for a living and have for 30+ years and know for a fact that it is ILLEGAL to run retreads on any steering axle on any vehicle operated on any public street or highway. No school Corp or legit trucking company won't run them on a steer axle. Any tire company that would install a retread tire on a steer axle is just asking for a law suit.
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don't forget to make sure you get rims with enough back spacing.. um.. I'd get 5 wheels and tires but hey thats just me.. I've never seen a dynapro mt rt03 in 33x11.5/15.. Only 32x11.5/15 and 33x12.5/15.. For the Hankooks in a 33x12.5/15 you shouldn't pay no more then 215-230 bucks per tire
No you are right about the size. When I was looking at the tire on his Jeep I thought it was a 11.5... it is in fact a 12.5......... I type faster than i think

Ya, a fifth is in the works for sure

About the retreads and tire choice. I know that my tires were pricey but I always try to buy the best tires I can.... I have had friends die in car crashes, from being on the side of the road fixing a tire and so on, so I maybe cheap in performance parts, but not where the rubber meets the road. Bottom line----------------------------
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Not to argue with you I drive for a living and have for 30+ years and know for a fact that it is ILLEGAL to run retreads on any steering axle on any vehicle operated on any public street or highway. No school Corp or legit trucking company won't run them on a steer axle. Any tire company that would install a retread tire on a steer axle is just asking for a law suit.
I did a lot of research before I made the decision to go with retreads, and I found a lot of people in forums who talked about this, I however never saw one of them quote any law to confirm it. Vermont is very stricked with its inspections, and if a mechanic is caught handing out inspections to vehicles who didn't pass they lose their licence to do inspections, and they lose their personal drivers licence. And the guy who inspected my jeep was fully aware they where retreads and had nothing but good things to say about them, and gave me an inspection. Same with my friend who runs retreads (who went to a different garage.)

Again, like I said, I have heard a lot of people talk about laws, but never seen one quoted, and I couldn't find anything in Vermont law. I didn't bother searching other states since I am in Vermont, so I am not going to pretend to know other states laws. I have also hear a lot of people talk about they would never run them because of separation issues, but have never read about anyone who does use them talk about them ever separating (unless it was a guy who talked about "this one time 30 years ago when i was trucking across country") From what I can tell (as far as modern retreads go) the whole illegal thing is an old wives tail, as is the increased risk of separation.

Edit: No amount of money spent on tires is going to stop them from going flat if you hit a nail or something in the road, and that is truly how most tires go flat...\


P.S. sorry for jacking the thread.
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I like the Hankooks alot.. they won the tire shootout thing 4whlr mag did some months back.. Great choice.. Although I kinda wish they were sipped but that can be done by the purchaser if they want it
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I like the Hankooks alot.. they won the tire shootout thing 4whlr mag did some months back.. Great choice.. Although I kinda wish they were sipped but that can be done by the purchaser if they want it
Dude, I read that article.... Consumer Report also said it was one of the best off and on road tires too. The Goodyear kevlar side wall was the only one better but cost made it number 2
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My wheels dont simulate bead locks they are full bead locks and cost around the same as your wheels.
Where did you got them?
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Ultimately it comes down to what makes you happy.

I'm running 33" mtr's with soft 8's and have about $1275 in 5 after rebates. I love them but tire debates will never stop. Otherwise what we talk about?

In order to have the same power as stock you will want to regear to probably 4.88. I have 4.10's in my cj but also have a built v8.

You should expect to down shift more and run in 4th more than now. Also more sluggish than normal at take off/slow speeds getting the bigger tires rolling.

The Dana 35 is a weaker axle but without a rear locker and a calm driver it should be fine. When you regear you may consider upgrading to a Dana 44 for strength.
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You are gonna LOVE the Hankooks. They are now my go to tire.
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Copl, did you sip yours and if not how do you like there slick road performence?
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Don't feel bad, I spent close to $1600 on tires alone.
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I run 33's x 12.5 x 15 on my 95 YJ. LOVE THEM!!! Just be prepared to have a steady slow vehicle. I personally love it. I live where I rarely go over 50 mph with her. THey have a kick butt kick out and give that Bulldog appearance when they are coming down the road! A real eye turn. My wheels and tires came out to $1600 for a set of 5 mounted balanced etc.
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Is this your daily driver?? If it is than you "might" get frustrated pushing them with your 2.5. However mine is a 2.5 and i run 33s and but it's not my daily driver. I just make sure when im in the Jeep im not in a hurry. But hey, who wants to be in a hurry when the top is down and the sun is out
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Is this your daily driver?? If it is than you "might" get frustrated pushing them with your 2.5. However mine is a 2.5 and i run 33s and but it's not my daily driver. I just make sure when im in the Jeep im not in a hurry. But hey, who wants to be in a hurry when the top is down and the sun is out
I have an Acura RSX hatchback with all kinds of upgrades for my daily driver, the car is a ninja.... I drive my Jeep thinking of the things I can go over or going slow with the top down, sight seeing. If you have a sports car and a Jeep, its just two totally different world but both are awesome. My mentality really changed when I got both. It just straight kicks ass having a choice.

By the way.... Thats one bad ass jeep. ^^^

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