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Old 07-17-2013, 04:02 PM   #1
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keep loseing my cluch

I have replaced everything!!!!! Even the internal slave 2 twice. And it was part of the problem but now I keep losing it. I replaced the clutch line and the master. It seems to have helped but still can't go far with out bleeding it. Any ideas? Getting really sick of this pos!

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Old 07-17-2013, 04:32 PM   #2
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What year and trans? Internal or external slave? I know my 95 you have to buy the CMC lines and CSC as a complete pre-bleed system. If one goes out I have to spend the $160 to replace all three.

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My jeep is a 87 with the 4.2 but the trans is not the factory one I'm pritty sure it came out of a 2.4ltr jeep. And it has a internal slave.
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:31 PM   #4
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Could it be the cap on the master? Seems really cheep and it looks like fluid got pushed out of the cap. I ordered it from quadratec.
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sounds like you still have a air bubble
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sounds like you still have a air bubble
Iv bleed it like 5 or 6 times tho. I checked and tightened all my fittings and it keeps going soft. I just dont get it.
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the hose that goes from the master cylinder to the slave has a retaining strap with a bolt in it..take the bolt out and pull the hose down so that any air must go up either to the master cylinder or up to the slave cylinder.hold the hose down like this with a hammer,crowbar,whatever you have handy while you bleed the clutch.since I started doing this I have had no problem bleeding them
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the hose that goes from the master cylinder to the slave has a retaining strap with a bolt in it..take the bolt out and pull the hose down so that any air must go up either to the master cylinder or up to the slave cylinder.hold the hose down like this with a hammer,crowbar,whatever you have handy while you bleed the clutch.since I started doing this I have had no problem bleeding them
Good idea. I'll have to try that. How many times should it take after I try this? And did u have issues like mine before you discovered this way of doing so?
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Good idea. I'll have to try that. How many times should it take after I try this? And did u have issues like mine before you discovered this way of doing so?
yes I did..I had one almost drive me crazy..I tried everything..then I noticed how the hose looped up and knew that was the logical place for air to get trapped..just bleed it several times..it worked for me ( after screwing with the damn thing for several days )
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yes I did..I had one almost drive me crazy..I tried everything..then I noticed how the hose looped up and knew that was the logical place for air to get trapped..just bleed it several times..it worked for me ( after screwing with the damn thing for several days )
If been screwing with the his damn thing for a few months!!! About ready to sell it!!
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If been screwing with the his damn thing for a few months!!! About ready to sell it!!
I certainly understand that..I hate hydraulic clutches..sure they were a little harder to press but I never had a minutes trouble out of any of the many willys and cj's that I had over the years with the mechanical clutch
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I certainly understand that..I hate hydraulic clutches..sure they were a little harder to press but I never had a minutes trouble out of any of the many willys and cj's that I had over the years with the mechanical clutch
I got a cj trans and t case in the shop. I'll put that in my yj lol
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I got a cj trans and t case in the shop. I'll put that in my yj lol
that would be great if the front shaft was not on the wrong side..I have 2 cj7's now with complete chevy running gears..350's and chevy automatic..thats what I like..thinking about selling both my yj's
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that would be great if the front shaft was not on the wrong side..I have 2 cj7's now with complete chevy running gears..350's and chevy automatic..thats what I like..thinking about selling both my yj's
My cj trans and case is for sale only 80,000 miles. The jeep was rear ended so I kept some of the drive line and that's all I have left. I want it gone to. Also have a gear driven t case out of a 68 Chevy pick up.
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take your time and you can probably get some good bucks for all that stuff..I liked the cj 3 speeds but the later 4 speeds did not seem nearly as heavy duty...one of my cj's has a divorced transfer case out of a 69 gmc
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take your time and you can probably get some good bucks for all that stuff..I liked the cj 3 speeds but the later 4 speeds did not seem nearly as heavy duty...one of my cj's has a divorced transfer case out of a 69 gmc
I'm asking 250 for the trans and case. I had one guy tell me it was a good price so iv just keep it the same asking price for a while.
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You have to bleed the heck out of it. I even had to do a reverse bleed and 1/2 hour later and sitting overnight solved the problem. It's a pain in...
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You have to bleed the heck out of it. I even had to do a reverse bleed and 1/2 hour later and sitting overnight solved the problem. It's a pain in...
How do you let it sit over night?
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How do you let it sit over night?
I don't see how letting it sit overnight or for a month would move an air bubble..did you try pulling the hose down
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I don't see how letting it sit overnight or for a month would move an air bubble..did you try pulling the hose down
I put a new hose on when I did the clutch. I looked at it today and there's not a big loop like the original. Its pritty flat but a slight loop. I'm gonna move it around while someone pumps the clutch.
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If been screwing with the his damn thing for a few months!!! About ready to sell it!!

Ok ok don't sell it I had a very similar problem and ended up doing a lot more work than I should have. My clutch did the exact same thing your describing. I replaced the master on the firewall and that worked fine for a little while. Then the problem arose again. I then pulled the transmission to get to the internal components and replace them only to discover I could not bleed my clutch.

It turns out that the only parts for this clutch are junk from China. I thought it was odd that my fresh hydraulic fluid was getting dirty so shortly after I changed the master. So I switched to SYNTHETIC hydraulic fluid and that did not eat the rubber seals in the clutch components. I bled the clutch 3 years ago and have not touched it since. It has been trouble free. Try replacing your master and the fluid. That was my experience. I found this out from a friend and didn't believe it until I was at my last straw with the clutch.
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Ok ok don't sell it I had a very similar problem and ended up doing a lot more work than I should have. My clutch did the exact same thing your describing. I replaced the master on the firewall and that worked fine for a little while. Then the problem arose again. I then pulled the transmission to get to the internal components and replace them only to discover I could not bleed my clutch.

It turns out that the only parts for this clutch are junk from China. I thought it was odd that my fresh hydraulic fluid was getting dirty so shortly after I changed the master. So I switched to SYNTHETIC hydraulic fluid and that did not eat the rubber seals in the clutch components. I bled the clutch 3 years ago and have not touched it since. It has been trouble free. Try replacing your master and the fluid. That was my experience. I found this out from a friend and didn't believe it until I was at my last straw with the clutch.
I just replaced my master. I was actually gonna go down to the store tomarow and pick up some new fluid. I'll get syn and and try that! Thanks
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I don't see how letting it sit overnight or for a month would move an air bubble..did you try pulling the hose down
It actually does if the air bubble isn't too huge.
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It actually does if the air bubble isn't too huge.
How do you do it then? Just leave the cap off?
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Ok ok don't sell it I had a very similar problem and ended up doing a lot more work than I should have. My clutch did the exact same thing your describing. I replaced the master on the firewall and that worked fine for a little while. Then the problem arose again. I then pulled the transmission to get to the internal components and replace them only to discover I could not bleed my clutch.

It turns out that the only parts for this clutch are junk from China. I thought it was odd that my fresh hydraulic fluid was getting dirty so shortly after I changed the master. So I switched to SYNTHETIC hydraulic fluid and that did not eat the rubber seals in the clutch components. I bled the clutch 3 years ago and have not touched it since. It has been trouble free. Try replacing your master and the fluid. That was my experience. I found this out from a friend and didn't believe it until I was at my last straw with the clutch.
I got syn dot 3 break fluid and it really seemed to help a lot so let's see how well it works. And did you really buy syn hydraulic fluid? Or did you mean just break fluid?
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Synthetic dot 3 is what I used.
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Synthetic dot 3 is what I used.
Ok that's what I used to.

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