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Old 09-17-2013, 08:56 AM   #1
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LED Dash 95 YJ Step by Step

There's been a lot of interest lately concerning the LED dash upgrade and unfortunately a lot of misinformation to go along with it. I can't speak for the older style dash for the YJ but this build is for a 95 YJ.

This upgrade is a very simple very cheap mod that anyone with a screwdriver and needle-nose pliers can do.

This is what you will need:

7 x Type 194 (168 2825 T10 5-SMD) LED Car light bulbs
1 x Screwdriver
1 x Needle-nose pliers

The cheapest I have found are these (which I used), $10 USD shipped:



Buy them here:
Jtech 10x 194 168 2825 T10 5-SMD Green LED Car Lights Bulb : Amazon.com : Automotive

Those are green but you can get them in almost any color you want in the same price range (search at the bottom of the page for similar items)

So this is where you start from (my lights are on right now, make sure that when you start pulling stuff apart you turn your lights off)

NOTE: If you choose you can disconnect the neutral on your battery to ensure you avoid damaging any electrical components. I did not do that, but it is certainly an option.



First remove the dash by unscrewing the red screws first then the blue in this picture:



Then move on to the instrument cluster to your right, there are 6 screws which are circled in red:



I made a mistake in the next picture and circled the wrong screws, disregard the red circles and unscrew the blue ones only:



Once the clear plastic cover is removed then proceed to remove the black shroud plus the 4x4 insert.

WARNING: Take care not to damage the 4x4 insert as it will probably fall away from the black shroud when it is removed, it is not attached

WARNING: Ensure you do not touch the instrument dials when they are exposed, it is possible to damage the sensitive components. This mod will not require any modification or removal of the needles or the black backing of the dial

NOTE: Anytime you pull the bulbs, ensure you use light pressure with the pliers as not to damage the components

In the next blurry picture there are three bulbs that need to be replaced, they can be pulled from their housing and do not require any "reaching around the back" to pull them. After they are pulled with the needle-nose pliers, replace them with the LED lights.



The sockets themselves can be removed (don't remove them for the instrument cluster, but you will have to pull 3 of them for the speedo and tach but that's later) but this picture shows how they seat in comparison with the stock lights:







Now once all the cluster lights are replaced, move to your speedo and tach. Go ahead and unscrew all the black screws attached to the white plastic and unclip the plastic clip. Unscrew only the plastic shroud for the speedo NOT the tach

I removed the plastic guard for the tachometer in error, you do not have to do that



There are also screws on the bottom that will need to be removed for ease of access:



Once the plastic cover for the speedo is removed this is what you should see

WARNING: Same rules apply for the needle as before



Go ahead and pull the light bulb and replace

Now this is the only part that will require some actual reaching and maybe some extra work on your part. CAREFULLY move the which plastic housing the speedo and tach about two inches towards the interior of the Jeep, that is two inches towards you if you sitting in the jeep.

You are going to have to reach behind the white plastic and find the two bulbs in the tachometer and the last remaining bulb in the speedometer

NOTE: The bulbs are housed in grey plastic sockets that can be turned counter-clockwise to be released. There is no need to remove any wiring at all.

Remember this is what they look like:



Turn them counter-clockwise to release them from behind the speedo and tach and replace them.

In theory you should have 7 light bulbs sitting next to you and 7 LEDs installed. Now it is time to test them.

Turn on your lights and you should see something like this:



If not simply turn the LED around in its socket and they should light up (they may not turn on since they are... can't think of the word... but they only go in one way)

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(ignore the red circles)



Test the 4x4 light (you have to have your keys in and power on for that one to light up) trouble shoot as applicable.

Reassemble everything carefully and this should be the result:







You should have this left over:



I've probably missed something so I'll update it as necessary but I hope this helps someone!

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"polarized" is the word you were looking for.....
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"polarized" is the word you were looking for.....
Yup that was it thanks
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Any idea if this is the same procedure for a 92 YJ?
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Will your dimer still work?
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no dimming if you use LED's
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no dimming if you use LED's
They dim on my 87
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Will your dimer still work?
Yup the dimmer works, because they're so bright they don't seem to dim as well as the old bulbs though
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Quick update, I'll be swapping out the rest of the bulbs including the idiot lights and vent lights. If you plan on doing this, don't buy colored lights as the plastic insert is already colored.

Unless you are really good at mixing colors then have at it
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I did this tonight and everything went well except for the two far right ones - the battery level and oil pressure gauges.

They don't light up, and when I turn the light switch ON, the needles drop back to zero, as if they were off. When I turn the light switch OFF, then the needles move up and show the battery level and the oil pressure level.

The LED bulbs don't come on regardless of whether I turn the light switch on or off. They were working fine (the lights and the gauge needles) before I replaced them with the LEDs. I thought maybe the LEDs were polarized and turned them around with no luck. The other two gauges (gas and engine temp) - both the needles and the light are working fine.

There's nothing wrong with the LED lights either; I switched them with the ones in the gauges that were working and that didn't make any difference.

Any suggestions? Ideas?
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I did this tonight and everything went well except for the two far right ones - the battery level and oil pressure gauges. They don't light up, and when I turn the light switch ON, the needles drop back to zero, as if they were off. When I turn the light switch OFF, then the needles move up and show the battery level and the oil pressure level. The LED bulbs don't come on regardless of whether I turn the light switch on or off. They were working fine (the lights and the gauge needles) before I replaced them with the LEDs. I thought maybe the LEDs were polarized and turned them around with no luck. The other two gauges (gas and engine temp) - both the needles and the light are working fine. There's nothing wrong with the LED lights either; I switched them with the ones in the gauges that were working and that didn't make any difference. Any suggestions? Ideas?
I'm having the same problem with my LEDs but it's the two bulbs in the tach and 1 in the speedo. I just can't seem to get them to light up with any led. The one on the right side of the speedo works but not the other 3. I had to put the regular bulbs back in. They work fine. Any one else have the same problems?
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Put my lights in tonight..
Used the same bulbs but in white.

Looks Much better!!
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Sounds like you guys might have faulty LEDs if you have already tried turning them around in the socket. Try swapping the LEDs that aren't lighting up into a socket that has a working LED and see if they still don't light. If they don't you know your problem.

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Put my lights in tonight..
Used the same bulbs but in white.
Looks Much better!!
Looks good in white, nice!
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Same process for an 88?
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I'm having the same problem with my LEDs but it's the two bulbs in the tach and 1 in the speedo. I just can't seem to get them to light up with any led. The one on the right side of the speedo works but not the other 3. I had to put the regular bulbs back in. They work fine. Any one else have the same problems?
I just did this tonight and ended up having an issue with the tach. All you have to do is bend the little copper contacts on the black light socket. Just bend them a little so they contact the little electrical wire paper stuff ( whatever it's called). Once I did that they worked fine. I also found that the light bulb that lights up the heater/vent controls is the same size. So since it was apart and I had extra bulbs I swapped it out. I also swapped out the third brake light it's the same size as well. Now to do the idiot lights like was suggested and the brake lights.
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Same process for an 88?
More or less, I believe you have the older style dash but the LED's should work the same (get the LEDs listed above)
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Same process for an 88?
Yep same process.

I just did LED's on my 89
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Tom95YJ- I thought for a minute there I was the only one with the burn hole from the light bulb on the heater/vent control overlay.
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Tom95YJ- I thought for a minute there I was the only one with the burn hole from the light bulb on the heater/vent control overlay.
Nope every Yj I have owned and been in has that same hole
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I got the lights installed in mine today and they all work except the fuel gauge and temp gauge, I tried turning the LED bulbs around, moving the contacts on the blad part of the bulb and even bending the parts in a bit on the adapter that holds the bulbs and nothing.

If nothing else I will just buy a red 196 bulb and throw in them, no biggie
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Can you buy the lights at the autoparts store? I looked at autozone and oreillys websites and didnt see them.
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Jake day, some of the AutoZones I've been to have LEDs. Pep Boys also generally has a pretty good selection. By far the cheapest place to get them is online. I just ordered a bag of 10 194 LEDs for $8...shipped. The shipping took 2 days from a US seller on EBay.
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Got my blue LEDs from Amazon. About $10 shipped. Took less than a half hour. Toughest part was working blind to get to the back of the speedo, it wouldn't come too far out from the dash and was worried if I disconnected it, to would be a bear to reconnect. BTW, mine is a 91.
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Toughest part was working blind to get to the back of the speedo, it wouldn't come too far out from the dash and was worried if I disconnected it, to would be a bear to reconnect. BTW, mine is a 91.
I'm having the same issue. I'm laying upside down right now in the footwell looking up, trying to figure out how the hell to get in there. All the rest of the LEDs were a snap. Any tricks?

By the way, if you're thinking about doing this, and have the "old style" dash ('86-'91), there are more than 7 LEDs required. There are 6 just in the center section (fuel, oil pressure, etc.) alone. You will need a total of 10 lights for this generation of dashboard. That does not include the turn signal indicator panel between the tach and speedo. Those are different bulbs altogether.
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Probably one of the best how to threads I've seen... Thank you
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I'm having the same issue. I'm laying upside down right now in the footwell looking up, trying to figure out how the hell to get in there. All the rest of the LEDs were a snap. Any tricks? By the way, if you're thinking about doing this, and have the "old style" dash ('86-'91), there are more than 7 LEDs required. There are 6 just in the center section (fuel, oil pressure, etc.) alone. You will need a total of 10 lights for this generation of dashboard. That does not include the turn signal indicator panel between the tach and speedo. Those are different bulbs altogether.
On mine, the lamp sockets pull right out, no twisting or anything. If you can get the sockets out, you can see enough to get the bulb in and out. You'll have to put the sockets back in by feel, but the holes are pretty big and the sockets just push back in. YMMV! I was one short, so I couldn't replace the bulb in the heater controls.
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I got 20 bulbs on EBay for 12.00 shipped.

Here's a few shots. Keeping mind the 92-95 gauges are backlit so the 87-91 will appear like mine
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