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Old 01-29-2012, 06:13 PM   #1
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Lift: Shackles vs Springs

I am looking to only lift my ride 2", figure that I want to retire in it and I know that any more may make it hard to get in whenI reach that golden age, lol. What are the pro's and con's of each

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Old 01-30-2012, 10:29 AM   #2
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what's the end use? this could be a long explanation but I'll keep it short. shackles,cheap,easy,efects handling. springs, better more work, potential vibration, more money. Simple is one inch shackle and one inch body.

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Old 01-31-2012, 07:52 AM   #4
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We took the leaf springs from a doner yj, and added two springs to each side in the back because of bottoming out issues with passangers in the back and added one on each side of the front to level it up, it brought the jeep up a little more than an inch, and the ride is still smooth for a jeep, although I havent had the hard top off yet to see how much the weight difference will effect the ride, but no more bottoming issues and it doesnt crush the exaust pipe anymore. it is labot intensive and you will want to just grind off the U-bolts and replace them with new for ease of installation. But shackles are a bit less involved to install.
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:33 AM   #5
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I have 2'' shackle on mine and with the 31's it's a good fit. no problems with steering but it can be a little jumpy.
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:37 AM   #6
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I have 2" shackles on mine and with the 31's it's a good fit. no problems with the steering but it can be a bit jumpy
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:37 PM   #7
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I also have 2'' shackle with 31s and it does really well
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Old 02-04-2012, 07:59 AM   #8
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I have 2" shackles on mine and with the 31's it's a good fit. no problems with the steering but it can be a bit jumpy
That is a problem LOL it's called "bump steer".

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You could do a shackle lift but they take a bit of approach angle away from the front as the shackles will dig when going across ruts or things of the like. I put a body lift on mine. I tried the shackles first, and ended up using them for only about 3/4" of lift to get rid of the bump steer, and cut the extra off.
Have you looked at the long add a leafs? There are some kits on Ebay for about $90.00. I have never tried them as I would think they would make the ride too harsh, but that may fit the bill for you
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That is a problem LOL it's called "bump steer".

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You could do a shackle lift but they take a bit of approach angle away from the front as the shackles will dig when going across ruts or things of the like. I put a body lift on mine. I tried the shackles first, and ended up using them for only about 3/4" of lift to get rid of the bump steer, and cut the extra off.
Have you looked at the long add a leafs? There are some kits on Ebay for about $90.00. I have never tried them as I would think they would make the ride too harsh, but that may fit the bill for you
If you're approach angle is that steep where the shackles rub or dig then you shouldn't be there in the first place. As far as the bump steer goes it's you drive within your means , it doesn't happen that often

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I'd recommend a set of OME springs. They add about 2" of lift and improve ride and flex.
I have them on my cj and love everything about them. Shackles are cheaper but if you plan on keeping it a while I'd go with springs or as mentioned split the lift between shackles and a body lift.
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X2, I agree with Dempsey, For 2" of lift I don't think you can beat OME springs. They will give you a nice ride and last a long long time.
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If you're approach angle is that steep where the shackles rub or dig then you shouldn't be there in the first place. As far as the bump steer goes it's you drive within your means , it doesn't happen that often
you can't fall off the floor
Ok maybe I should rephrase what I posted.
If you plan to wheel your Jeep and use very long shackles they will stick down like buck teeth and will dig into mud and steep inclines, and it doesn't take an extremely steep hill or rut to do it. With small tires a 45-60 degree incline will do it.
All lift shackeles will not be this way, but to get 2" of lift you will need 4"longer shackles and 4" or more longer than stock is what I am talking about.
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:28 AM   #13
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If its a mall poser ,go with shackles ,other than that go with lift springs
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