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Old 12-30-2012, 12:33 PM   #31
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Stupid people do stupid things.
Smart people do stupid things.
Stupid people do smart things.
And so on and so forth. This debate will never end just wanted to put my 2˘ in. I'm not saying that that of u don't run sway bars that you will wreak. But they do surve a purpose

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Old 12-30-2012, 12:39 PM   #32
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Don't get ur panties in a bunch I'm not saying that anyone is stupid

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Old 12-30-2012, 12:40 PM   #33
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I'll add, a person who removes any suspension component; needed or not, should be sure to adjust their driving style as it will handle differently. Take the time to relearn how to drive.
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i'll add, a person who removes any suspension component; needed or not, should be sure to adjust their driving style as it will handle differently. Take the time to relearn how to drive.
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:27 PM   #35
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There are numerous scenarios where cranking the wheel is your only option. Say someone is in front of you. You are both at highway speeds, and are travelling 2 seconds behind the driver in front of you. The driver in front does not see that traffic has slowed to a stop in front of him, and because it is a large SUV, you can't see the road ahead of him.

Suddenly, the driver is forced to swerve into the other lane, and because these are Jeeps that do infact take some time to stop, your only option is to swerve as well to avoid hitting the stopped drivers.

This is a scenario that has played out numerous times around here on one particular exit, and as such I always adjust my lane position in advance. But for someone not familiar with the area it could very well be a possibility.

I have driven without my swaybar before. And because leaf springs are still capable of flexing up and down going around corners, I always keep mine connected on paved roads. That is the point I am trying to make. No matter how stiff your leafs are, or the type of leafs you use, they will always flex up and down with the centrifugal forces enacted upon the Jeep. That is fact. The swaybar is the resisting force that prevents the Jeep from rocking back and forth.

They are not more stable than coils in an up and down motion. They can flex Justas much just as easily.
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:59 PM   #36
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Also I call bull**** to anyone who says their Jeep can corner at 2x the posted speed limits around corners without any body roll, that's just flat out arrogance. Maybe you don't know what body roll is then, but I'm not believing it for one moment. The whole point behind removing your swaybar is to gain MORE flex in the front end- what do you think is going to happen in a corner? Obviously you are going to flex more, and the centrifugal forces acting upon the body are going to pull it outward.
I didnt say the posted speed limit. I said the suggested speed. In Oregon the speed limit in rural areas is 55. They put up orangeish signs that suggest the speed they consider safe. So while the speed limit is 55 they might suggest 35mph for a certain corner and 45 on the next. I never said it didnt have body roll dude. I just said I did it. And I did do it.lol It probably wasnt real smart but it did happen. Crotch rockets run the same road in three minutes or less and its a little over 6 miles if I remember right. They call it joining the 3 minute club. I did it in a little over 4 minutes in my old mustang. Come out to Oregon during the summer and we'll go for a ride...
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Old 12-30-2012, 10:01 PM   #37
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There are numerous scenarios where cranking the wheel is your only option. Say someone is in front of you. You are both at highway speeds, and are travelling 2 seconds behind the driver in front of you. The driver in front does not see that traffic has slowed to a stop in front of him, and because it is a large SUV, you can't see the road ahead of him.

Suddenly, the driver is forced to swerve into the other lane, and because these are Jeeps that do infact take some time to stop, your only option is to swerve as well to avoid hitting the stopped drivers.

This is a scenario that has played out numerous times around here on one particular exit, and as such I always adjust my lane position in advance. But for someone not familiar with the area it could very well be a possibility.

I have driven without my swaybar before. And because leaf springs are still capable of flexing up and down going around corners, I always keep mine connected on paved roads. That is the point I am trying to make. No matter how stiff your leafs are, or the type of leafs you use, they will always flex up and down with the centrifugal forces enacted upon the Jeep. That is fact. The swaybar is the resisting force that prevents the Jeep from rocking back and forth.

They are not more stable than coils in an up and down motion. They can flex Justas much just as easily.
#1. you'd be a goddamned retard for following someone that close at that speed..

#2. you shouldn't be running stock brakes with bigger tires, just because you can doesn't mean you should, and if your Jeep takes forever to stop with stock tires then you have problems..

#3. Leaf springs resist upward movement as well as downward movement, as well as twisting movement.. guess what coil springs do? They only only only only and also only resist compressing movement.. hence therefore that is why they are definitely; by very nature, more stable.
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#1. you'd be a goddamned retard for following someone that close at that speed..
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#1. you'd be a goddamned retard for following someone that close at that speed..

#2. you shouldn't be running stock brakes with bigger tires, just because you can doesn't mean you should, and if your Jeep takes forever to stop with stock tires then you have problems..

#3. Leaf springs resist upward movement as well as downward movement, as well as twisting movement.. guess what coil springs do? They only only only only and also only resist compressing movement.. hence therefore that is why they are definitely; by very nature, more stable.
X2 - 100% Agree... My YJ without sway and track bars stop 10x better than my stock 04 Z-71 truck. I can shut the YJ down as fast as any vehicle I have owned and feel comfortable doing it.

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