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Old 06-26-2013, 01:59 AM   #1
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Getting a new muffler any suggestions? I want something loud.

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Why? You tired of having decent hearing or being able to have a discussion on the trail?

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Getting a new muffler any suggestions? I want something loud.
Get a rice burner
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And put it on a rice burner
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A thrush welded sounds good. I like mine. And not ricey at all.
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A thrush welded sounds good. I like mine. And not ricey at all.
Thats actually what I have too. It is louder than I wanted, but not horrible. My brother has a rice burner with one of those big chrome jokes with the 4" opening. They come with silencers, but of course his is removed. That thing is horrible. I dont even know how the hell he drives it.

IMO the only time to upgrade exhaust is if you have destroyed the stock one, or have done so much to the engine that the exhaust is the only thing left.
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Why? You tired of having decent hearing or being able to have a discussion on the trail?
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don't let others deter you from making your jeep like YOU want it..opinions are like A holes,everyone has one and most think that their own is the only one that doesn't stink..I have a 4.0 yj with stock exhaust,a cj7 with 350 chevy and flowmasters,a cj7 with 350 chevy and glass packs..they all sound very different but good to me..try to check out other vehicles and find the sound you like
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i have a flowmaster. its ok, sounds like a small v8. sounds great on deceleration and when you rev it but it quiet
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Yeah get whatever you want but be prepared for everyone you pass to cuss you when they have to pause conversation until your loud hey-look-at-me muffler is gone around the bend. You'll also be asked to leave some offroad parks, so take that into consideration.

The only thing loud pipes save is the number of fingers used to wave at them.
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Yeah get whatever you want but be prepared for everyone you pass to cuss you when they have to pause conversation until your loud hey-look-at-me muffler is gone around the bend. You'll also be asked to leave some offroad parks, so take that into consideration.

The only thing loud pipes save is the number of fingers used to wave at them.
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Yeah get whatever you want but be prepared for everyone you pass to cuss you when they have to pause conversation until your loud hey-look-at-me muffler is gone around the bend. You'll also be asked to leave some offroad parks, so take that into consideration.

The only thing loud pipes save is the number of fingers used to wave at them.
Haha awesome
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Yeah get whatever you want but be prepared for everyone you pass to cuss you when they have to pause conversation until your loud hey-look-at-me muffler is gone around the bend. You'll also be asked to leave some offroad parks, so take that into consideration.

The only thing loud pipes save is the number of fingers used to wave at them.
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Austin might not be planning to play in the park where people think they can cuss others or flip them off without repercussions
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Maybe I was wrong, this will go good with a loud muffler.

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I have a dynomax on mine, people tell me it sounds just like a v12 Ferrari.
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I'm no motor prude; I like a good sounding machine as much as anyone. There's a difference, though, between a nice sound and a loud obnoxious racket. When the OP said he wanted a "loud" exhaust, it sounds like he's asking for the loud obnoxious racket.

I have a very loud sound system in my daily driver, and I know the urge to play the obnoxious look-at-me game. But I also know that this will quickly run out my welcome wherever and whenever I "rock out", so I don't turn the dial past 5 unless I'm somewhere that loud music will be appropriate or unnoticeable. However, loud obnoxious exhaust doesn't have a dial.

Unlike people running unnecessarily loud exhausts, I'm not intentionally trying to make anyone mad. I'm just pointing out how 95% of society views this stuff. Let's try to keep society from viewing Jeepers with the contempt they do motorcycle riders.
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m thinking about make my jeep a true dual exhaust
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Ok I really don't care but many of us motorcycle riders don't run loud because we think its cool. We do it because the good folks in autos don't see us. They change lanes into us, turn in front of us etc. We run loud so they know we're there. It seems rude but it beats getting crippled by folks who can't be bothered with looking before they change lanes. Sometimes people have contempt because they don't understand.

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i have a flowmaster. its ok, sounds like a small v8. sounds great on deceleration and when you rev it but it quiet
X2 love it
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Ok I really don't care but many of us motorcycle riders don't run loud because we think its cool. We do it because the good folks in autos don't see us. They change lanes into us, turn in front of us etc. We run loud so they know we're there. It seems rude but it beats getting crippled by folks who can't be bothered with looking before they change lanes. Sometimes people have contempt because they don't understand.

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Oh, but I do understand, all too well. The contempt is well founded and well-placed.

Neal Stephenson said it best;

"First, a word on motorcycle safety: If you've put yourself in a position where someone has to see you in order for you to be safe -- to see you, and to give a f**k -- you've already blown it." - Zodiac

I never hear any motorcycle until it's passing me, which is too late to make meaningful and safe changes in how and in what direction I have decided to drive. In normal traffic, no one does. The exhaust goes to the rear and so does the sound. The Doppler Effect makes what little sound that does travel forward into a higher pitch which does not travel well through windows and steel, and the human ear does not register as well. Closed vehicles with radios going aren't going to be overcome by any pipe.

Besides, it's an argument that fails right out of the gate. If hearing you helps others locate you and accommodate you, how will YOU hear anything? You're counting on the goodwill of people that you're offending with your racket, while deafening yourself to any auditory clues that YOU could use to accommodate others! That's not a very good plan, in my opinion.

I've been on both sides of this scenario; I used to ride a motorcycle myself, and for a short time had to go without a muffler. I never saw a difference in how traffic responded to me before or after I lost my muffler, except that people were much less likely to afford me common traffic courtesy while I had no muffler. I was also having to spend a great deal more time checking my six visually (taking my attention away from what was in front of me), since I couldn't hear anything short of a jet plane approaching from behind. I think you'd find that people would be more accommodating of you if they didn't have to yell to be heard in their own vehicle while you're riding next to them. You're assigning their actions to ignorance of your presence; they might just be well aware of you, but not very tolerant of your loud pipes. This is not meant to defend aggressive retaliatory driving, only explain it. I don't agree with putting anyone, no matter how obnoxious, in danger on the road, but unfortunately in my experience not everyone shares that view.

With the myth that loudness = safety debunked, I'd like to point out that you'd be safer, even with your loud pipes, if you'd own up to the true motivation being rooted in a macho hey-look-at-me urge instead of safety. Why? Because of the Peltzman effect. Basically, if you believe that there are safety measures in place, you will compensate for the perceived reduction of risk by behaving in more risky ways.

If you're truly concerned about "cagers" seeing you, put yellow rotating/flashing lights on your helmet and fenders. You'll save your hearing, keep people from thinking you're an obnoxious attention seeking weirdo who they would prefer not to share the road with, and actually have the effect you're seeking of making others notice your presence. If you're bound and determined to stand by your sonic fantasies, put a siren on a switch so you can turn it off when you're in a neighborhood and on when you're on the highway.

Why doesn't anyone do that? Because it wouldn't look/sound "cool".
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That's about what I expected, longer than I expected but about right.
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Forgot to mention I no longer ride street because I figured I dodged death long enough. I figured even an older jeep with no doors will take an impact better than a motorcycle. Its ok but still not the same, with age comes a cage.My bike was a stock Honda with a stock pipe. In my forty years of riding, my family never went out of our way to piss anyone off.

I will switch back to YJ now but it's been fun.
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you post reads like you have dislike for all motorcycle riders "the contempt is well founded and well placed"
I really liked the part about only being able to hear a bike after it passed. the speed of sound is 738MPH, my bike is quick but not quite that quick.
I do agree that straight pipes don't belong on any vehicle but an aftermarket exhaust with some bark is a saftey feature. I have seen firsthand the reaction of a cager when I reved my bike to let him know I was along side and he was about to cut me off.
sorry you have contempt for me but I'm just trying to stay alive while you text on your cell phone or adjust the radio.
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I'm no motor prude; I like a good sounding machine as much as anyone. There's a difference, though, between a nice sound and a loud obnoxious racket. When the OP said he wanted a "loud" exhaust, it sounds like he's asking for the loud obnoxious racket.

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Unlike people running unnecessarily loud exhausts, I'm not intentionally trying to make anyone mad. I'm just pointing out how 95% of society views this stuff. Let's try to keep society from viewing Jeepers with the contempt they do motorcycle riders.
Society ?? I am not interested in impressing the society that this country has today..I have been building loud harley choppers for 35 years and you will hear me when I am coming.When I pull up beside someone they don't wave at me with one finger unless it is a thumbs up..same thing goes for my jeep
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I have seen firsthand the reaction of a cager when I reved my bike to let him know I was along side and he was about to cut me off.
I think bikes come stock with something for that: the horn.
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in heavy traffic horns go unnoticed as they are commonplace, the roar of an exhaust is different and gets attention.
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in heavy traffic horns go unnoticed as they are commonplace, the roar of an exhaust is different and gets attention.
Not true. My 135db Air Horn makes them get out of my way real fast. I have it hooked up to a kill switch, I turn it on when driving the highway here in the city.

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