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Old 05-20-2013, 05:56 PM   #1
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Questions on lifting/putting bigger tires on YJ

Hey guys, I'm new to the forum and new to owning a jeep. I bought a 1995 Wrangler S back in February and I am absolutely in love with the jeep lifestyle and all of the mods that I have seen on this forum.

My question is regarding lifting my rig and adding larger tires. I have a 1995 yj with the 2.5 liter 4 cylinder engine. As far as I know, everything is stock on the jeep. I currently have 30x9.50r15LT tires with no lift.

I'd like to put 32-33 inch tires on her but I am concerned of the drop in performance. The gear ratio reads out as 4.11. This is my daily driver, however, I work from home so I only drive to the gym, store, etc.

I am assuming that if I want to put on 32-33 inch wheels, I will need a lift. Just want to make sure a body lift would be okay. I haven't done much wheeling just yet but but I do plan on it.

Given the information above, could anyone advise me if 2 inch body lift and would give enough clearance for 32 inch tires? If not, what would you recommend? I realize that I will have a loss of performance on the road but just how big of a loss will I have? This isn't a huge issue to me right now as I don't have to drive all that much.

I've attached pictures of it when I first bought it and then after I did some plasti dipping.

(I originally posted this in the TJ sub forum so my apologies for the double posting... Should have been paying more attention)
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If I were you, I would do 2" of suspension lift and put on 31x10.50's.
But you do already have 4.10 gears with a 4 cyl 5spd. So that helps you out if you go up to 33's.

But for light/moderate trail usage, and gas mileage 31's will do you great.

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Old 05-20-2013, 06:11 PM   #3
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you will notice a slight loss of power moving up to 31's and a more significant loss moving to 33's. indirocz28-already having 4:10s doesnt mean anything with a 2.5L pushing them especially when moving to larger tires.

there are plenty of people with the 2.5/4:10/33" combo, but I hear alot of complaints about power on the forum. its very do-able, but not ideal
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Yea have an 88 with same combo. Went from stock jeep wheels with 31x10.50's to 33x12.50's. sure it was fine around town but was a constant 3rd to 4th shift try to run at highway speeds. Or swap to 31's to get to the weekend trip and swap the 33's back when we got there to wheel. Lasted about 4 month then swapped to a 98 tj 4.0 . Problem solved
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Either go with lower gears,no more than 31" tires, or swap engines or jeeps. Lol!
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I have a 2.5 with 32s and 4in lift. I love the look, power loss is pretty substantial. On flat road it's not bad 55mph is ok but the slightest incline calls for 45-50 mph and 4th gear.
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My 95 is a 2.5. I have a 2.5" suspension lift and run 31's. Flat ground is about 60-65mph max, and a slight incline will mean dropping to 4th gear pretty quickly. I do very little highway driving so it's not that big a deal. No idea what the gas mileage is and it's not a dd so I don't really care.
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+1 for the 31" tires, unless you are planning to regear...

Assuming you are looking for a more aggressive-looking tire, I think you will be happier with the look of 31s when combined with wheels with less backspacing. Or you could add wheel spacers - about 1.5" spacer would be perfect.

Or buy new wheels with 3.75 to 4" of backspacing. That will give it a more aggressive, wider stance, and show more of the tire.

The 31s will also be an 1" wider, which will also help.
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My opinion. Go with a 2.5 lift, a good quality lift at that, and run 31's. I did a lot of wheeling with my 4.2/5 spd/3.07's and had a BLAST doing it. Learned a lot about my jeep and more importantly I learned even more about how to drive my jeep off road. Once I was ready to upgrade I knew exactly what I wanted to do and was able to pit together a build plan asunder stick with it. You will find a jeep with a good 2.5" lift and a good set of tires will give you more fun and will be more than capable, more so than your skill level, that will last you for a couple of years until you are ready to upgrade. Good luck on whatever you decide but if you do not take anything else from my post, remember this. Read, read, read, and then read some more about lifts, tires, setups and what other people have done and then put together a plan on what type of terrain you will be working with.
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Read, read, read, and then read some more about lifts, tires, setups and what other people have done and then put together a plan on what type of terrain you will be working with.

Very much agreed.
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If I were you, I would do 2" of suspension lift and put on 31x10.50's.
But you do already have 4.10 gears with a 4 cyl 5spd. So that helps you out if you go up to 33's.

But for light/moderate trail usage, and gas mileage 31's will do you great.
Yeah I couldn't have said it better. When you go with a taller tire your going to pay in the performance. Going only an inch or two in size won't be terribly bad, but you will notice.

I imagine the reason you want to go with the body lift is price.....right?
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Thanks for all of the responses!

Rykemc, I really like what you said. I am not looking to put a whole lot of money into my current rig so that is why I just wanted to go cheap with a body lift and throw some bigger tires on there because I plan on upgrading to a TJ in a year or two with a 6 cylinder so right now I'm really just using this rig to learn.

I'm definitely still learning and I'm not going to make any changes for a few more months so I can have more time to research my best options. I'm also moving to San Diego in two months and not sure what my daily drive is going to look like. If it is anything like my current drive, which is maybe 10 miles per day, I'm definitely going to get a 2.5 inch lift and look at some 31s.
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What will a two inch lift to performance wise while running 30 inch tires? I don't really know how to check the size of my current tires (27?) and I know for sure that my Jeep has no lift whatsoever. P.S. You have a smexi Jeep :wub:
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What will a two inch lift to performance wise while running 30 inch tires? I don't really know how to check the size of my current tires (27?) and I know for sure that my Jeep has no lift whatsoever. P.S. You have a smexi Jeep :wub:
Smexi jeep? What does that mean?
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What will a two inch lift to performance wise while running 30 inch tires? I don't really know how to check the size of my current tires (27?) and I know for sure that my Jeep has no lift whatsoever. P.S. You have a smexi Jeep :wub:


The more you lift a vehicle the less aerodynamic it becomes. Because it has to push through more air vs being low to the ground and sleek like a Corvette.
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To me the best "Cheap lift" would be, 1" of lift with Shackles, wheel spacers and go with 32s.

P.S., Saw your pics, Yes it did look a lot better with Red Grill and Silver Wheels.
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To me the best "Cheap lift" would be, 1" of lift with Shackles, wheel spacers and go with 32s.

P.S., Saw your pics, Yes it did look a lot better with Red Grill and Silver Wheels.
Pretty sure I didn't ask of your opinion there, Nubby. But thanks.
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^^ LOL!

And stay away from shackle only lift if you can. I thought about doing it, but I think it would do more bad than good for old stock suspension components.
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Thanks indi. The more I think about it, if I am going to take the time to lift it and put new tires and maybe rims on it, I'm going to do it "right" and go with a suspension lift.
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JWP, Honestly, if you will take the time and build your YJ correctly then the last thing you will want is a TJ. My wife has an 01 TJ that has a 5.5 lift and 33's and "all that" I like my 4.5" lift running 35's much better than the wife's TJ because I built it how I wanted it. My YJ has a 4.6 stroker motor, lockers front and rear and will go anywhere I want it to go and will by far surpass my wife's TJ and I have as much in it as my wife's TJ and a much more capable rig. Take your time and enjoy the ride. It will only get better.
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My opinion. Go with a 2.5 lift, a good quality lift at that, and run 31's. I did a lot of wheeling with my 4.2/5 spd/3.07's and had a BLAST doing it. Learned a lot about my jeep and more importantly I learned even more about how to drive my jeep off road. Once I was ready to upgrade I knew exactly what I wanted to do and was able to pit together a build plan asunder stick with it. You will find a jeep with a good 2.5" lift and a good set of tires will give you more fun and will be more than capable, more so than your skill level, that will last you for a couple of years until you are ready to upgrade. Good luck on whatever you decide but if you do not take anything else from my post, remember this. Read, read, read, and then read some more about lifts, tires, setups and what other people have done and then put together a plan on what type of terrain you will be working with.
This is my setup. 93 2.5l 2.5" RC lift and Mastercraft 31"X10.5X15 MT's with 4:10 gears. You will be overloading this drivetrain with any larger tires. It is a very capable rig as is.
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This is my setup. 93 2.5l 2.5" RC lift and Mastercraft 31"X10.5X15 MT's with 4:10 gears. You will be overloading this drivetrain with any larger tires. It is a very capable rig as is.
That is what I am planning on doing now. Thanks for all of the input.
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JWP, Honestly, if you will take the time and build your YJ correctly then the last thing you will want is a TJ. My wife has an 01 TJ that has a 5.5 lift and 33's and "all that" I like my 4.5" lift running 35's much better than the wife's TJ because I built it how I wanted it. My YJ has a 4.6 stroker motor, lockers front and rear and will go anywhere I want it to go and will by far surpass my wife's TJ and I have as much in it as my wife's TJ and a much more capable rig. Take your time and enjoy the ride. It will only get better.
Thanks man. You've been really helpful. Just noticed that you live in Lubbock. I lived there from 2006-2010 for school.
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Jwp, your Jeep looks sexy (smexi) now compared to the "Barbie" Jeep before. Also, what kind of off roading are you looking at doing in the future?
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Jwp, your Jeep looks sexy (smexi) now compared to the "Barbie" Jeep before. Also, what kind of off roading are you looking at doing in the future?
Lol, thanks. Apparently Nubby doesn't think so. I'm not really for sure. I don't have much experience as it is but id definitely like to get pretty heavy into it. Planning to go ride some trails this weekend near Vegas.

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