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Old 07-30-2011, 02:33 AM   #1
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rear end options?

I have a 89 yj, its got the stock danna 35 what are my options if If I don't wanna be a one wheel wonder anymore?

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8.8" D44 9" D60 depends how extreme you wanna go I suppose.

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Old 07-30-2011, 02:47 AM   #3
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Yea that's what I was thinking but its hard to find em within my budget
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Old 07-30-2011, 06:17 AM   #4
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Spartan locker or alike. I like mine.
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Old 07-30-2011, 08:10 AM   #5
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Yea that's what I was thinking but its hard to find em within my budget
What's your budget?
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Yea that's what I was thinking but its hard to find em within my budget
If cash is a concern, the best option is the Explorer 8.8. There are a mountain of them out there. I just picked one up off craigslist for $125. I pulled it out of a 2000, so I got the brake lines, brake cables, rotors, calipers even the drive line.

Try to find 95 to 01, you get disc brakes with those years.

Best advice, if your on a budget, be patient. They are out there.
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Old 07-30-2011, 09:01 AM   #7
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Thanks ill have to check it out forsure
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Old 07-30-2011, 09:07 AM   #8
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Budgets prolly $200
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Is the ford 8.8 the same width as the 35?
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It is a hair narrower. When installed 3/8" on each side narrower...not enough to worry about.
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Good dimension in this link; Ford 8.8 Axle in YJ
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Would the 8.8 bolt right in or would I need a special kit?
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Would the 8.8 bolt right in or would I need a special kit?
I think you gotta move some perches and such first
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Old 07-31-2011, 01:54 AM   #14
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I have a 89 yj, its got the stock danna 35 what are my options if If I don't wanna be a one wheel wonder anymore?
You can always throw in a lunch box locker for around $300 like the Powertrax Lock Right or similar.
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Would the 8.8 bolt right in or would I need a special kit?
I've seen someone push the leaf spring with all their might and get them on the stock perches on the 8.8, but that's a terrible idea. You'll ruin the springs and the bushings pretty quickly.

Luckily on a YJ there isn't a whole lot of fab work to be done. Just move the perches over a bit, and you're pretty much done. A buddy of mine had his moved at a shop for $50 with his supplied mounts.
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For a different axle go 8.8 but u will still have an open diff with most 8.8s. The 8.8s later than 97 (I believe) has disk brakes so you need to modify the brake lines and also it is a tad shorte bout 3/8s per side when centered. That being said the shock and spring perches need to be put on there are plenty of companies with that kit. The stock locations of the shocks and springs will not work. Plus it has a different yoke you will need a flange adapter for your driveshaft. Also the differential is not center its offset so your driveshaft will be slightly cocked to one side. Its not enough to worry about. Now with the 8.8 it is stronger than a d44 also if you end up doing the super 88 kit on it in the future it is compariable to a d60. Now maybe I overlooked it but what size tires are you running? Cuz you can throw in a lunchbox locker or a good lsd to your 35 and gain a lot of traction just be easier on the skinny pedal. If you get a junkyard 8.8 you can find some with an LSD and 4.10 gearing in them. What exactly are you're plans?

Sorry about the adhd type of post its late and I'm at work.
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Would the 8.8 bolt right in or would I need a special kit?
It's not a direct bolt-in swap. There are kits out there like;

M.O.R.E. - Mountain Off Road Enterprises 98500 - M.O.R.E. Ford 8.8 Axle Swap Kit for 87-95 Jeep® Wrangler YJ - Quadratec

However, if you pull your 8.8 from the donor vehicle yourself, keep the U-bolts and the U-bolt spring plates as they can be reused. Then all you have to buy is the spring perches and shock mounts.

Check here for the perches;

Antiwrap Leaf Spring Perches for Ford 8.8 Inch | eBay

I bought a pair and they fit great, no modifications required.

As for the shock mounts, I'm going to wait until I get the axle hung under the Jeep to determine the best option.
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Old 07-31-2011, 10:18 AM   #18
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All this info really helps me out iv started looking for a ford 8.8 and ill be able to do the fab work myself, rather than putting a 300 dollar part in a very week reared. I have 35s on my jeep now and i feel like my danna 35 is gonna take a shit next time i hit the trail
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It may not but your pushing it. Good luck on the axle hunt!
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We'll see, not having to much luck yet havnt found any cheep in my area yet. Every one wants 600 for a complete rearend
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I just found a 91 8.8 complete for $75 but its drum brakes.
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Old 07-31-2011, 11:32 AM   #22
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It dont really bother me if its drum or disk, where is is it at?
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Careful on the older 8.8s I believe the ford rangers used them in late 80s maybe but definitly early 90s and they had a lower spline count aka a lot weaker!
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Careful on the older 8.8s I believe the ford rangers used them in late 80s maybe but definitly early 90s and they had a lower spline count aka a lot weaker!
Good to know thanks!!
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All this info really helps me out iv started looking for a ford 8.8 and ill be able to do the fab work myself, rather than putting a 300 dollar part in a very week reared. I have 35s on my jeep now and i feel like my danna 35 is gonna take a shit next time i hit the trail
The Dana 30/35 combination is highly under rated. I've been running that combination for 15 years, the last 8 with 4.56:1 ratio, ARB lockers fr/rr and 34/9.50X15 swampers. And in 8 years of running this, the only thing I've broken was a front axle U-joint. And that happend while towing a disabled Jeep(picture attached)up a trail.

I'm upgrading my axles becuase I intend on putting a Cummins 4bt turbo diesel in my 93 YJ.

Look for the 31 spline axles.
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So even with my 35s it would it be alright just to put a Spartan locker in the rear and leave it at that?
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At that point, It's all about driving styles. If you drive with your right foot, be wary. Anything can break, if you try hard enough. If you drive with your head(finesse)you should be OK.

Spartan Lockers are recommended to lighter vehicles or vehicles with tires shorter than 32".

Above statement from ringandpinion.com not mine
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So is there a diferent type of locker I should get? Cus im desperate for some traction in the rear lol
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Well I just hate to put money into a dana 35 when its not the super 35 kit. Honestly do what ya want but also look at what he's running 34x9.50s my 33x12.50s weigh more. I am running the 30/35 option. It is all driving style cuz I will not lock my 35 with my 33s I drive by the gas pedal! Now running 35x12.50s you have a lot more tire and start pushing the envelope to have a failure. So you can put a lunchbox locker in it, I say lunch box locker cuz it is fairly inexspensive compaired to a bullet proof locker or lsd. I just hate to see someone wheeling on a budget get some more traction then snap an axle.
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Budgets prolly $200
That's not going to get you far. Heck, you'll spend 1/4 of that just on a couple quarts of Mobil 1 diff lube to fill it back up.

If a strength upgrade is your goal, Ford 8.8 is your bet bet, dollar for dollar. You should, with some judicious shopping, be able to get things done for about $500 if you do the setup yourself and assuming you don't need to throw on a SYE and new driveshaft (which you might).

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