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Old 10-16-2010, 11:48 AM   #1
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Replacing a starter

Just bought an 88 Wrangler and need to replace the starter. I have the starter already but this would be my first time replacing one on a Jeep. Any one got a service manual or pics of how to go about it? Or advice/suggestions?

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Old 10-16-2010, 12:13 PM   #2
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Piece of cake. Be sure to disconnect the positive battery cable first.
Then disconnect the wires at the starter.
The starter itself is only mounted with two bolts. Remove those and it will come right off.

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Old 10-16-2010, 12:28 PM   #3
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Ditto. Takes 5 mins
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Old 10-16-2010, 12:32 PM   #4
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Piece of cake. Be sure to disconnect the positive battery cable first.
Then disconnect the wires at the starter.
The starter itself is only mounted with two bolts. Remove those and it will come right off.
That's what I figured from looking at it but which 2 bolts? I mean, their positions? I found 2 that point straight down when underneath the Jeep but those seem to be apart of the starter rather than bolts that hold it to the transmission.
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Old 10-16-2010, 01:17 PM   #5
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Is there an above bracket that holds the starter?
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Old 10-16-2010, 01:37 PM   #6
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Anyone?
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Old 10-16-2010, 02:02 PM   #7
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Mine is a 4 cyl, don't know what yours is. From underneath looking up there are two torx head bolts that are on the starter facing you.. These would be close to the bell housing. Disconnect positive lead on battery, disconnect wires on starter(remember where they go) and take out the two bolts, they should drop out towards the ground. Starter will come out then, just don't let it hit you in the head....
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Old 10-16-2010, 02:09 PM   #8
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The bolts go into the bell housing. Follow it and remove the two that go through the starter
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Old 10-16-2010, 02:16 PM   #9
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If you want pics... go to autozone.com... enter vehicle info and you will be able to find diagrams along with step by steps
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Old 10-16-2010, 03:57 PM   #10
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One of the bolts is pretty much impossible to get to with my rachet, even with an extension, b/c of the larger bolt on the transmission right below it. Any advice there? I think I may have already stripped it
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Old 10-16-2010, 04:15 PM   #11
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BTW I have been at this 15 minute task for over 3 hrs. That torx bolt closest to the transmission is nearly impossible to get to. The clearance between the 2 bolts is not enough for an extension and a regular length socket is too short! AAAAAAAAAAAAH :-O
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Old 10-16-2010, 06:00 PM   #12
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What on earth are you taking off? 3 hrs?! Let's see a pic of your trouble
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Old 10-16-2010, 06:36 PM   #13
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The clearance between these two bolts isn't enough to get an rachet extension in and the torx bolt (on the starter) is so close to the metal plate/case that I can't get a regular sized rachet and sprocket flush over it. So now, I seemed to have stripped the friggn' torx bolt b/c I can't get its bit flush into any sprocket!

Tried an bolt remover but it just stripped the bolt remover sprocket instead.

Any suggestions?
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Here's a better pic. Rightside up this time.
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The rounded part of the starter makes it hard to get a rachet in there too.
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Old 10-16-2010, 09:10 PM   #16
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I just did this on my 89 4.2L, the lower bolt is at the bottom on the front of the starter (bolting starter to mount) the upper bolt is on the other side of the starter (bolting mount to the back of starter). If the bolt is stripped have you tried using a vice grip? Also I would get a Haynes manual, there well worth the $25
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Old 10-16-2010, 09:37 PM   #17
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Definitely investing in a service manual!

The starter on my 88 has 2 bolts that are vertical that mount it. They are at the same height/length as one another. But the back one is mounted so closely to the transmission that a rachet head won't fit and then a transmission bolt is directly below it so an extension won't work either.

I've tried almost everything I can think but I seemed to have accomplished stripping the bolt bit.
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Old 10-17-2010, 07:58 AM   #18
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So it seems that that is the oil pan bolt that is directly below the starter bolt.

Just one year and this design flaw wouldn't be there lol
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Not the oil pan bolt, it's the dust cover bolt!

Got dust cover bolt out but now the starter bolt seems to be stripped... Wish I would've listened to my other half and made the seller replace the starter before instead of dropping the price. :-(
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I've seen other forums where people suggest heating the bolt, but with oil leaking from an unknown source I'm hesitant... That pretty much leaves out welding another bolt to the torx bolt. Gonna try some PB Blaster overnight. Crossing my fingers. Bolt's pretty stripped though...

Anyone know if Midas could/would remove the bolt for me?
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:59 AM   #21
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Have you tried a sawsall with a metal blade?
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:35 AM   #22
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Tried cutting a slot on the top of the bolt for a screwdriver, then used a jack to put pressure on the screwdriver but all it did was pop half the head off

Next up, drill 'n tap...

Dunno about a cutting with a saw. There is virtually no clearance between the dust pan and the bolt and the bolt might as well be in a well b/c the starter (rounded part) is right next to it on the other side so you can't get vice grips in there either.

On to Plan H. lol
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Old 10-18-2010, 02:25 PM   #23
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If you decide to drill it out, I suggest trying the square type easy outs. Use the biggest size you can drill for. They don't break off as easy and you can hammer them in really tight.
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Old 10-19-2010, 05:47 AM   #24
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Update:

Got the starter off finally. Had to drill through the old starter. Probably negates the "core refund" but I can probably scrap it instead.

Changed the oil pan gaskets while I was in there b/c to get to the oil pan you have to remove the dust cover of the transmission and to remove that, you have to remove the starter. Decided to do it while I had it out!

It looks as thought the oil pan gaskets have never been changed :O which would explain all the gunk under the Jeep. Probably been leaking for a minute. Cleaned out the inside of the oil pan and put on new gaskets. Oil pump screen looked good so I didn't mess with it.

Had to go to work so I will finish putting the new starter on today! I'm so excited!!!

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