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Old 01-22-2009, 12:50 AM   #1
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ok everyone first off hello and i just got a 1993 wrangler YJ and yes first thing is damn need to get this thing up a lil more (no pun intended there)

I hear shackles with do decent but lower the clearance, plus make the front of the jeep look funky with shackles real low and then jeep up high, but if it's the way to go without havign to do anything else please let me know

SOA i have all tools to do that and a set of new perches front and rear to remount the springs but do i need to do anything else, such as extend drive line? brake lines, lower transfer case? im just remounting on the axles im not going any higher (larger perches) i hear just going on top of the axle is about a 3" lift and that show be decent and i wouldnt need to do anything else please correct me if i heard wrong.and then do a 2" body lift later..

please if anyone has information on this that would be great as im looking at doing this tomorrow afternoon so the sooner i get feedback the safer i'll be during this work or excuse me less frustrated if i end up neding to modify anything else for just remounting the spring over the axles without any higher perches.

please help
if there is a how to page or link someone knows please send my way, the more help the better

thanks again and i'm looking forward to the new jeep project.

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ok, here we go. soa is gonna give you around 5.5" lift w/ stock springs. you will need a lot of other parts. soa is not a cheap lift, but it is a good one. you will need longer shocks, longer and/or relocated brake hoses, knowledge to set rear pinion angle, slip yoke eliminator w/ extended cv driveshaft, drop pitman arm and still usually some steering linkage mods. t case lowering kit is not a bad idea.

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ok, here we go. soa is gonna give you around 5.5" lift w/ stock springs. you will need a lot of other parts. soa is not a cheap lift, but it is a good one. you will need longer shocks, longer and/or relocated brake hoses, knowledge to set rear pinion angle, slip yoke eliminator w/ extended cv driveshaft, drop pitman arm and still usually some steering linkage mods. t case lowering kit is not a bad idea.
you mean 4 1/2" at best!!!
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you mean 4 1/2" at best!!!
depending on condition of stock springs.

it is a very expensive and extesive procedure any way ya look at it.

i done a few, and my rescent one i got lazy and did a sua lift.

jpdoc, he aint gunna need the t-case brkts if he does the sye conversion as you prolly know.
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depending on condition of stock springs.

jpdoc, he aint gunna need the t-case brkts if he does the sye conversion as you prolly know.
ya, the only thing it does thats nice is reduces the change in the pinion angle, the more you have to change it, the less the pinion bearing gets oil. thats all
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you can get buy cheap if you can do a little and i mean a little bit of fab work...if your interested i can give you the run down of how we do them, tried and true for under 300 bucks!
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you can get buy cheap if you can do a little and i mean a little bit of fab work...if your interested i can give you the run down of how we do them, tried and true for under 300 bucks!
ya mean the HAC 'N TAP?

dont give this guy false hopes yjwrangler, the sye and a "descent steering set up" are practically a must.

im sure (you) can git by given yer qualified and senior fab skills and all, but this guy seems ta be a little new to the game...

but yea, it can be done for 3 hundge.
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you can get buy cheap if you can do a little and i mean a little bit of fab work...if your interested i can give you the run down of how we do them, tried and true for under 300 bucks!
ya man, how many times have i told you, you guys are hillbillies and are lucky your junk stays together.
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ohh come one now guys its not that bad...i just mean to save some money around the areas of the lift, this doen't include any driveline help minus the tcase lower!!!
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YJwrangler, yes please do shed some light on this. i mean i can buy some universal shackles and that will do a 3" lift alone SUA and that will cost me $50 tops

a SOA i have a guy who will weld on new perches and line it all up for $100 now i'm not going to be crawlin or off roading just want the dang thing to look better with bigger tires n up a little..

so what do i really need to get i mean 4100 and i'm up 4" , do i really need to do a transfer case drop?
SYE?
brake lines extended?
shocks replaced?
and what do i do about the front torsion bar do i just remount it once the lift has been done?

i drive this jeep maybe 20 miles a week if that to work n around, so im not concerned about ride quality its a jeep what ya expect Phamtom comfort ahahaha

thanks for all and any advice i am trying to avoid spending $ new baby so my $ is that direction...

jeep is just a new hobby n stress reliver to work on.

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^with that description, i say go w/ a sua 4" lift, w/ t case drop. no sye. kit needs springs, shocks, drop pitman arm, t case kit, extended brake lines. cheaper, quicker, and easier than soa. not a good idea to budget together an soa lift.
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no way no shackles they suck, buy unicersal 6" long perches at least 2 3/4 wide, then you can use your old sway bar tabs as shock tabs and cut and weld your old shock tabs and use them as sway bar tabs, make a ycase drop out of rubber pucks from the hardwear store, get the longer bolts for the pan, get longer ubolts from advanced... and brakeline extensions on ebay!
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no way no shackles they suck, buy unicersal 6" long perches at least 2 3/4 wide, then you can use your old sway bar tabs as shock tabs and cut and weld your old shock tabs and use them as sway bar tabs, make a ycase drop out of rubber pucks from the hardwear store, get the longer bolts for the pan, get longer ubolts from advanced... and brakeline extensions on ebay!
wow, and I thought I was a redneck . Don't forget the steering, if you want to bring the jeep back home after you take it out steering is a good idea . You can use a 4" drop pitman arm to get it down so it won't bind but you will loose a bit of your turning radius (not a big issue if you are crawling malls and side streets ) but if on the trail the steering loss equates to 3 and 4 point turns if it gets tight.

You can get a bit of an extension on your brake lines by relocating the union at the frame in the wheelwell to under the frame. retap a new bolt in there and you will gain a few inches there. After that go to the autoparts store and get some brake lines for a 1985 chevy 3/4 ton truck and they should fit and be about 5 inches longer than your stockers that will give you plenty of length. Take your old line with you to compare the ends as it has been a while since I did that mod.

You will need to lengthen both driveshafts but an easy one for the rear is to get a front driveshaft from an xj and install it in the rear, it has a cv on it already and when I did that it was even the correct length on my cj7.
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no way no shackles they suck, buy unicersal 6" long perches at least 2 3/4 wide, then you can use your old sway bar tabs as shock tabs and cut and weld your old shock tabs and use them as sway bar tabs, make a ycase drop out of rubber pucks from the hardwear store, get the longer bolts for the pan, get longer ubolts from advanced... and brakeline extensions on ebay!
How do you use the sway bar tabs as shock tabs, just wondering

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