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Old 03-29-2009, 06:46 PM   #1
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steering box adjustment questions

hey guys I am about to adjust my steering box, but had 1 quick question. when doing this Steering Gearbox Adjustment Writeup - JeepForum.com
do I leave the steering wheel locked or unlocked or does it matter?? thanks..

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does not matter when adjusting the gear box. i've never had any luck though, you adjust it a little and it doesn't change much, then it hits a spot that is too much, and there's not return to center cuz its too tight. basically every box i've adjusted is just worn out, and adjusting a box that is worn out doesn't work.

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Old 03-29-2009, 07:44 PM   #3
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so I need a new box?
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well, try adjusting it first. does it have a lot of play?
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well, try adjusting it first. does it have a lot of play?
Has a 1/4 turn of play and when I move it nothing else moves, thats how i determined it was the box..
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probably, try to adjust it. hopefully it works, seems like every time i do, i maybe get a hair better, but then a little more and it has no directional stability. if the adjustment doesn't help just get a new box.
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probably, try to adjust it. hopefully it works, seems like every time i do, i maybe get a hair better, but then a little more and it has no directional stability. if the adjustment doesn't help just get a new box.
could it be something else that makes it have play, I just bought the jeep and it had play at the time of the purchase..
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My steering box is a little loose too, other than that it works just fine.

Yet I'm on my way to the junkyard today, to find a 1999 Dodge Durango.

This truck supposedly has a steering box that is a direct swap, (uses the YJ lines) for the YJ unit. The Durango box uses one less mounting bolt, & provides a quicker steering ratio, & a firmer feel.

IIRC the YJ's box has a 3-1/4 turn lock to lock, & the Durango box has a 2-3/4 turn lock to lock.

jeepforum was my source for this info.
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My steering box is a little loose too, other than that it works just fine.

Yet I'm on my way to the junkyard today, to find a 1999 Dodge Durango.

This truck supposedly has a steering box that is a direct swap, (uses the YJ lines) for the YJ unit. The Durango box uses one less mounting bolt, & provides a quicker steering ratio, & a firmer feel.

IIRC the YJ's box has a 3-1/4 turn lock to lock, & the Durango box has a 2-3/4 turn lock to lock.

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i've heard that, let us know how that goes and how you like it.
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My steering box is a little loose too, other than that it works just fine.

Yet I'm on my way to the junkyard today, to find a 1999 Dodge Durango.

This truck supposedly has a steering box that is a direct swap, (uses the YJ lines) for the YJ unit. The Durango box uses one less mounting bolt, & provides a quicker steering ratio, & a firmer feel.

IIRC the YJ's box has a 3-1/4 turn lock to lock, & the Durango box has a 2-3/4 turn lock to lock.

jeepforum was my source for this info.
Will it work with manual steering too??
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Will it work with manual steering too??
Not sure about manual, but you could convert to power.

Went to the junkyard, but the only correct box was in a mangled wreck.

Lacking the jaws of life, & thinking it might be damaged made me leave it there.

I'll check around some other yards when I get a chance.
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I adjusted my box and it still has play.. It it normal for my rod to have play at the bushings like this
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yes that is normal for it to move that direction. kinda like what i've beens saying was gonna happen huh.

you shouldn't see the tie rods moving up or down, or loosely in the socket. have someone slightly turn the wheel back and forth, or the best thing to do is jack it up and wiggle each tire left and right to check for play.
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yes that is normal for it to move that direction. kinda like what i've beens saying was gonna happen huh.

you shouldn't see the tie rods moving up or down, or loosely in the socket. have someone slightly turn the wheel back and forth, or the best thing to do is jack it up and wiggle each tire left and right to check for play.
So I noticed that my steering stabilizer will not sit flush on my rod, I think the rod may be bent, I also noticed that the pitman arm has play moves up and down a little.. What do you guys think>??
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pitman arm is one solid chunk of iron. it shouldn't move, its attached to the gear box, and if the output shaft is moving the box is shot, like i've been hinting at.

read your other thread, i say take it for an alignment so a mechanic can check out the front end.
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pitman arm is one solid chunk of iron. it shouldn't move, its attached to the gear box, and if the output shaft is moving the box is shot, like i've been hinting at.

read your other thread, i say take it for an alignment so a mechanic can check out the front end.
will this bad box affect my new tires or can I wait a few month to replace it?? assuming the alignment is ok..
I will take it to get the alignment after I put the shackles on tomorrow (so I will update on the alignment next week)
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that can effect tire wear.
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that can effect tire wear.
so i should get a new box first?
before the tires?
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if thats your problem, i'd say get it checked to know for sure.
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ok i will lift it and then get it checked.. thanks..
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Is it the output of the steering box that's moving or iis it the tie rod on the pitman arm? If it is the tie rod on the pitman I would be very carefull driving it aroun like that. If that breaks you will have no steering at all and a lot of play in the steering wheel.
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Is it the output of the steering box that's moving or iis it the tie rod on the pitman arm? If it is the tie rod on the pitman I would be very carefull driving it aroun like that. If that breaks you will have no steering at all and a lot of play in the steering wheel.
I have a buddy looking at it tomorrow.. I will most likly buy all new tie rods anyway. when
I wiggle the steering wheel, nothing moves but the pitman arm just a little, when the steering wheel is unlocked I can push the pitman arm up in the steering box about a 1/8 of an inch..

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