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Old 03-15-2014, 06:21 PM   #1
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Steering problems after lift

Hey guys, I just got my 5" BDS springs in (they are amazing by the way), and I'm having some steering troubles. I can turn the wheel to the left until it hits the steering stop. But won't go to the stop on a right turn. I'm guessing its because of the angles on the drag link, I'm running a stock pitman arm. So do I just need a drop arm? Or is the steering gear box just a little too tight?

I ran a drop arm for a 4" lift for a little while when I had 4" springs, but it hit the tie rod when I flexed so I took it off. If it won't hit, will running it help with my problem?

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Old 03-15-2014, 08:14 PM   #2
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That drop pitman arm will more then likely solve the problem.... But It could possibly create another one

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Old 03-15-2014, 08:49 PM   #3
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I would say replace that stock pitman arm as well.
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Old 03-15-2014, 09:30 PM   #4
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One more for the drop pitman arm
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Old 03-15-2014, 09:46 PM   #5
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A dropped pitman arm should do the trick. I am SOA+3" and I am running a stock ZJ/Grand Cherokee pitman arm.
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Old 03-16-2014, 02:01 PM   #6
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Alright, sounds like I'm going to try the pitman arm.
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Old 03-17-2014, 02:09 PM   #7
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Well, I forgot we put my drop arm on my dads TJ. So I'm going to need to order one. Should I go for the bigger ZJ arm, or get the smaller XJ arm?
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Old 03-17-2014, 03:46 PM   #8
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The higher you go, the more the drag link "drags" the steering to the drivers side.

I would imagine that the ZJ arm is way more expensive than an XJ, And for all the more it does why spend more money, besides, a dropped arm is way beefier than stock anyway.
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Old 03-17-2014, 04:04 PM   #9
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A stock ZJ or XJ arm is about $30. A YJ drop arm is $50+. I'm just wondering how far I need to drop it. The XJ is dropped farther than the YJ, and the ZJ is more than the XJ.
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Old 03-17-2014, 04:11 PM   #10
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I have a brand new RE drop pitman arm at home, if you can wait till I return home on the 27th I'll send out for 20$ + postage. You may want yo consider going to a high steer, that would benift you several ways.
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Old 03-17-2014, 05:39 PM   #11
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The ZJ pitman arm is what I have. I got mine from e-bay for around 20 bucks. I may be wrong, but I believe that a lot of company's re-market the stock ZJ pitman arm as a dropped YJ arm.
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:09 PM   #12
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Reno, could I go to crossover steering now? I've been looking at the JB4X4 bracket, but I'd need to make a new drag link. I've never done that before, how much do you guys think it'd be?
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:34 PM   #13
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I was thinking more of a full hi-steer set up. I'm looking at Gopherit sleeves and a Ruffstuff 1 ton tie rod and drag link set up. The Ruffstuff kit lets you cut the dom what ever length you need, the Gopherit sleeves let you drill out the top of the knuckle and move the tie rod to the top of the steering knuckle. This also takes the angle off the drag link so a stock pitman arm works. A little work but you would have much stronger steering components moved higher out of harms way, and a near level drag link.
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:46 PM   #14
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That's a bit more money than I want to throw into a D30, especially since I'm on a college student budget. And I don't really need full high steer. I'm in Michigan, so I havent found any rocks or anything to catch the tie rod on. It's done pretty well in the stock position.
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Old 03-18-2014, 01:10 AM   #15
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Yea, that makes sense, I'm going to the D44 up front and rocks are a constant companion on our trails. A new drag link should not be a problem, get your own dom and add the ends or go through Ruffstuff and get their kit for a new drag link.
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:37 AM   #16
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Ream the knuckles and flip the tierod to the top.
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Old 03-18-2014, 02:02 PM   #17
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Ream the knuckles and flip the tierod to the top.
I've looked at that idea, but I'm pretty sure it'd hit the pitman arm when I flex.

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