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Old 03-08-2014, 01:37 PM   #1
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Suspension lift advice.

Currently have 8" death shackles. I want to keep same ride height so I'm thinking I need a 2"-2.5" lift. Right? What brand is decent but not the best? My leaf springs are completely flat right now and worse when I pull our pop up. What can I expect to pay? Do I need to order new shocks too? I assume I'll need new shackles. I'm not very educated on suspension lifts due to this being my first. Thanks
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Old 03-08-2014, 02:12 PM   #2
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It's good you want to fix the shackle mess. For your lift amount I'd go Old Man Emu, they are one of the best with a great ride. If you think you may want more lift I'd consider RE Extreme, BDS, or for cheaper Zone. If your leafs are that worn I'd plan on new shocks and shackles and the bushings (many lift kits include the bushings).

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[QUOTE=YJmuscle;8881105]Currently have 8" death shackles. I want to keep same ride height so I'm thinking I need a 2"-2.5" lift. Right? What brand is decent but not the best? My leaf springs are completely flat right now and worse when I pull our pop up. What can I expect to pay? Do I need to order new shocks too? I assume I'll need new shackles. I'm not very educated on suspension lifts due to this being my first. Thanks[/QUOTE

most lift kits will come with new shocks, for a 2.5-4" lift expect to pay $500 on the low end, $1000 on the high end. Yes you will need new shackles, you could find some stock ones for next to nothing or spend $50-$100 for beefier stock height ones.
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:37 PM   #4
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I would go with a Zone 2" if you want a good lift, but not the best on the market. It rides better than a Rough Country.

Pulling the pop-up camper isn't such a great idea with it though. It is sagging hard with the trailer on it because the trailer is too heavy for the Jeep.

A YJ isn't designed to pull anything behind it, it never had a "tow package" available from the factory. Sure you can get a receiver bumper, and make it into one. I have a receiver on mine as well. But the trailer behind a YJ is supposed to be 1500lb or less.
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Old 03-09-2014, 01:40 PM   #5
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This might be the one. I don't want to spend over $600. Is this setup decent?
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Old 03-09-2014, 01:47 PM   #6
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Or with no shocks. I think my shocks might still be ok. How would I know?
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Just be aware that Rough Country isn't known for a comfortable ride. By most reviews it lives up to it's name as being a rough ride. Fitment issues are also known to exist with cases of the springs being arched too much.

Unless you need clearance right now and aren't concerned about ride comfort, I suggest you save your money and get a lift from a better rated brand.

I can only personally recommend Old Man Emu. Not cheap by any means, but well worth the price for ride comfort.

Edit:Be aware that shocks can be a limiting factor of suspension travel when it comes to lifts.
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Old 03-10-2014, 01:51 AM   #8
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I had good luck with my trail master kit and did a video series on it - as far as shackles Im looking to install some greaseable ones - David

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mine has the rough country in it. it was there when I bought it. I have lost 6 teeth and 3 fillings after driving it for a week or 2. I think I could take the springs out and replace them with 4" I beam and it would probably soften the ride
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2.5 or 4" will run about the same cost... I had the RC 4", was fine, rode fine, wheeled fine...
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Old 03-10-2014, 02:05 PM   #11
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I'm in the process of installing a Rough Country kit, so I can't comment on the ride, but I do have two big complaints with the kit itself:

1. The instructions SUCK. They give you a handful of pictures, and they're all of the obvious crap that my 6 year old can figure out in about 5 seconds. They have ALL the hardware sorted among 3 bags, and the first bag contains about 75% of it. Be prepared to spend the first couple hours sorting the hardware to each component.

2. On the topic of hardware, the hardware assortment sucks. They advertise "bolt on, comes with all hardware", no, it doesn't. They have you reusing the track bar hardware (I'm pitching those anyway), good luck getting those out intact on a 20year old vehicle. They provide you with new bolts for the new shakles and springs, but they have you reuse the spring-to-frame bolts. Sorry, but that's not going to happen. The nuts came off without too much hassle, but the bolt is rusted into the bushing. I eventually tried hammering the hell out of it, and that still did nothing. I had to cut mine out. They played the same game with the lower shock bolts. Mine weren't terrible, but new is better after 100k miles. As for the hardware I did get, the u-bolts didn't quite want to fit the front spring plates, and some of the nuts for the u-bolts had messed up threads. Luckily they weren't too bad, and I could clean them up with a tap. For a kit that cost me 1500 bucks, the extra 20 dollars in hardware and stuff that fits isn't much to ask for is it?
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...For a kit that cost me 1500 bucks, the extra 20 dollars in hardware and stuff that fits isn't much to ask for is it?
Wait... what? You paid $1500 for a Rough Country lift kit?

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Old 03-10-2014, 07:12 PM   #13
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4.5" lift with "military" wrap springs and steel brake lines, then I also got the SYE and rear driveshaft and dual steering damper (overkill but better than too little). So yeah. I also forgot to mention the "Bag3" in the spring kit that has no explanation anywhere in the instructions.
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Old 03-10-2014, 10:36 PM   #14
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comparable cost to RC zoneoffroad
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Old 03-11-2014, 12:23 AM   #15
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I have the rough country and for the price I paid I have no problems with it. I had no problems with instructions and it had everything I needed. The only problem I had was removing the old junk
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after I realized that the jeep I bought had track bars binding everything up, I wont be so harsh on the rc lift now. after I got rid of those bars, the ride is a lot better now. it actually has some suspension. the track bars were still in it and at such a severs angle, it was binding everything up to where it would not move.

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