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Old 11-05-2010, 07:47 AM   #1
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Suspension problems

I have complete new leaf springs, shackles, and Rancho shocks.

My issue is that the jeep is extremely bouncy and i feel everything.

Knowing its a jeep i mean, should it be that damn bouncy?

Its like if you didn't have to drop a deuce b4 the ride, ya sure as hell do after!!!

lol...anyway i was wondering if anyone can shed some light on some shocks that would give me a smoother ride, and also shut the GF up about it..haha

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Old 11-05-2010, 07:54 AM   #2
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YJ's are rougher riding than TJ's I know, but check the air pressure in the tires. Free and easy, if they are overinflated, it'll ride like a stagecoach....

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Old 11-05-2010, 08:38 AM   #3
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Yeah i know about the tire psi. Thats not the issue, just feels very bouncy and yu can feel it all. i believe i just need smoother set of shocks, since the ones i bought my guy tells me is for "plowing" uses.
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Did you tighten all the bolts for the suspension with the weight of the jeep on it? Shackles too.
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:05 AM   #5
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yes, everything is torqued down properly. I did it on my alignment rack so the jeep was on all 4's.
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:05 AM   #6
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I think the rancho's might just be to stiff.
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:53 AM   #7
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It's your new springs, not the Ranchos. Those are great shocks! But I put new springs under our YJ and just like you said-you feel every bump. YJ's just don't have enough weight to them to settle the springs down-you are riding right up on top of them.
Tires and pressure will make some difference-but not much. Learn to live with it or get seat cushions!
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Old 11-05-2010, 10:34 AM   #8
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Mine feels top heavy in the winter when I put the hard top on but I don't notice it in the summer without it. It takes me a few weeks to get used to it. I definately drive it differently with the top on it. Like was mentioned before sometimes it feels a little more springy if you bolted the springs up with it off the ground. You might try loosening all the spring bolts with it on the ground and then retighten them and see if it helps.
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Old 11-05-2010, 10:44 AM   #9
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I was thinking it might be the springs. There is weight on the jeep specially with the winch out front. And i do have a soft top, but with 1/2 doors. Only reason i think its the ranchos is because b4 i changed them i had an API house brand set that felt really smooth. So i am just comparing that, but also they were on b4 the springs were changed out so its iffy.

Hell with it then, i think im spending too much money now. The gf's just going to have to live with it. Just no Road H any time soon.....lol!
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I was honestly considering testing out a softer more OEM style set of shocks and compare them to the Ranchos. Not that i dislike the ranchos, but i believe maybe due to the fact that they are more of a rough rugged performance shock they make the ride a lot more stiffer then the norm. Any ideas with that theory?
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When did you tighten everything down all the way? While on jacks. or when the jeep was on the ground? If you tighten everything down while on jacks, you'll get a very rough ride. You're supposed to tighten a bit, set the jeep down, everything will set in it's natural place, then tighten everything down all the way.
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:55 PM   #12
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I see....well i did the whole front and rear job on the lift with it all up in the air. So what you are saying is bring it back in the shop and loosen it all? Then maybe jolt it a little and then re tighten back on the ground?

Now i did the whole leaf springs set up. So do i just loosen the Clamps that hold the axle as well. Or everything?
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First of all what springs did you use? Another stock set?

Secondly, you should have tightened all the bolts down when the jeep was on its tires under its own weight. Best thing to do at this point is loosen all the spring bolts (not the u-bolts they don't matter) and jump up and down on the front and rear a few times to settle it out...then tighten them back up
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Old 11-15-2010, 02:00 PM   #14
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I just loosed everything. U bolts as well. and every thing did look as if it settled into place. (bouncing was done.) I did this all on the alignment rack so i can have the jeep in the air but still have all 4 tires grounded. So the road test shall let me know the answer. Thanks
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I was thinking it might be the springs. There is weight on the jeep specially with the winch out front. And i do have a soft top, but with 1/2 doors. Only reason i think its the ranchos is because b4 i changed them i had an API house brand set that felt really smooth. So i am just comparing that, but also they were on b4 the springs were changed out so its iffy.

Hell with it then, i think im spending too much money now. The gf's just going to have to live with it. Just no Road H any time soon.....lol!
I had a set of RS5000s on a Toyota and it rode like a spring board. I blew out one of the shocks and decided to change all of them...bought Bilsteins...problem solved.

This spring I installed a 4" suspension lift with Bilstein 5100s in my YJ and it rides awesome! I'd describe the ride as firm and there is no problem with the added weight of the rockcrawler bumper and winch up front.
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I had just bought the stock OEM style springs with new updated shackles, but still OEM style. Only diff was that i had gotten the ones that i am able to lube up through out the year. Something still tells me that it is the Rancho's that are creating this stiff bouncy ride, but i'll only know now after the road test.
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Could be, everyone has their own opinion yanno....hell I like rough country shocks lol
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:03 PM   #18
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Yeah i know whatcha mean. Maybe due to the fact i overhauled the whole suspension and its all brand spanking new. Every thing just needs time to work itself in.
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:53 PM   #19
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Air your tires down to 24ish and see if that fixes it. I ride 22 up front and 24 out back in my tj and it rides better then say 30.
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Well i just changed my Ranchos out, and holy moly. They are somewhat blown, or just really far gone. THey have no cushing as far as when you push them down. THey just go down really quick, then stick there and do not come back up. Brand new no less. Damn! So i went with KYB shocks all around and what a bigg difference. Just aligned her and going home, i'll be back on tomorrow to let you know how it rides. Thanks for the Help.
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Well i just changed my Ranchos out, and holy moly. They are somewhat blown, or just really far gone. THey have no cushing as far as when you push them down. THey just go down really quick, then stick there and do not come back up. Brand new no less. Damn! So i went with KYB shocks all around and what a bigg difference. Just aligned her and going home, i'll be back on tomorrow to let you know how it rides. Thanks for the Help.
Good deal man. Glad things are working out.
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I also have brand new ranchos on my keep and it rides like sh*t
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Well i just changed my Ranchos out, and holy moly. They are somewhat blown, or just really far gone. THey have no cushing as far as when you push them down. THey just go down really quick, then stick there and do not come back up. Brand new no less. Damn! So i went with KYB shocks all around and what a bigg difference. Just aligned her and going home, i'll be back on tomorrow to let you know how it rides. Thanks for the Help.
Sounds like you're good to go now. You would think with a brand name like RANCHO they would produce a quality product. Looks like nothing has changed with them in over 20 years!!!
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Yea i am telling you. I thought right out of the box they were a tad stiff, but figured they would ease up in a few weeks or so. Well when i took them off they had no foced support and just smooshed in easy as hell. I still have the Damper on. But i will take that off as well. Just re did my alignment this morn cause it was a little off due to the small amount of play in the wheel. got it all to 0 now and perfect.

Anyone want my Ranchos? lol
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Old 11-16-2010, 08:49 AM   #25
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my yj is rough. i put a rubicon shackle lift on but i mean if it dont bounce its not a jeep.
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Old 11-16-2010, 08:52 AM   #26
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Yeah i know there is going to be some rough ride to the Jeep, but if you were to ride mine you would of understood. Rides much much better now. Still has that Jeep ride to it not saying that it won't, but now it is deff tolerable.
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Yeah i know there is going to be some rough ride to the Jeep, but if you were to ride mine you would of understood. Rides much much better now. Still has that Jeep ride to it not saying that it won't, but now it is deff tolerable.
I like the "Jeep Ride"...but "Spring Board"...that's not for me!! I can say firsthand that RANCHOS $UCK! At least the 5000 series.

Glad you got your ride back.
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Hey the Jeeps are a built in rough rider, but I did try some basic light duty truck shocks. Gas type and 1/2 price to Rancho. The bounce is almost gone ! Tire PSI will help, but choice of tires will improve the feel too. In the past, I've gone with low ply side walls. Its a trade off, but soft or cheapy sidewall tires ride smoother, and less noise. The down side ? Well, tracking is less, and even stopping not generally as good, but the ride is great for city / highway use. I've driven CJs and YJs from Alaska to Mexico's boarder. Granted I'm no off roader, but like we all say. " I love my Jeep" One issue that old corvettes had was rough ride. Composite leaf springs were the answer, so maybe for us Highway rollers, someone should be building them for Jeeps.
Due to having a trailer, I'm thinking about "air shocks" on the back. Anyone have an opinion on that topic ?
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So now 3 perfect alignments into it last night i drive over to the GF's and the steering wheel is still off. So last night i get home and i do the turning test. see how much off either side is and i notice that the left side has a little more steer to it. So i rip off the horn button and i see on the main bolt that there is a Mark. I then notice that on the wheel itself there is a mark and it is off to the left about 3 teeth or so. So today i am pulling off the wheel and making the marks even to see what happens. According to my alignment machine it is in perfect alignment which it is. Just the wheel has small play and is off to the left. Hope this turns out to make it all even.
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I had to adjust my drag ling 3-4 times before getting the steering wheel straight. Each time I went out and drove it and made sure I made full radius turns.

Sounds like someone tried adjusting the wheel before.

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