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Old 03-14-2011, 09:58 AM   #1
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Question Transmission question. (newbie+girl=NEED HELP)

I just picked up my 93 jeep this past weeked and I have yet to take it to a mechanic (don't ask). The car has a brand new clutch and the former owner informed me that I had to "learn" how to shift into 3rd.

I've had many stick cars in my life so Im by no means new to gears, however I am having trouble shifting into 3rd and 4th. it makes the same sound as if I was trying to shift gears without the clutch and it pains me! I mentioned the new clutch because I am not sure if that might have something to do with it or could it be the transmission? No problems going into 1st, 2nd, 5th, or R. only 3rd and 4th.

Any ideas or suggestions?

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Old 03-14-2011, 10:10 AM   #2
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Chances are on a 93, due to the mileage, etc., it probably needs synchros. The clutch is probably fine since you are able to shift into other gears without a problem.

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Old 03-14-2011, 10:12 AM   #3
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So its grinding while shifting into 3rd and 4th? Have you "double clutched" to shift? Probably synchros.

Edit: someone beat me to it
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Old 03-14-2011, 10:44 AM   #4
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So its grinding while shifting into 3rd and 4th? Have you "double clutched" to shift? Probably synchros.

Edit: someone beat me to it
Now that you guys mention it, the guy did say something about synchros.
What is 'double clutching'?
Are synchros something that is gonna cost an arm and a leg?
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Old 03-14-2011, 10:48 AM   #5
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It makes sense that your having problems with both those gears. 3rd and 4th are one syncro sleeve on the same shift fork. I doubt both syncro cones went out at the same time. Maybe a shift fork problem or maybe the syncro sleeve on that fork is cracked/shattered. Definitely sounds like a transmission problem.
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Old 03-14-2011, 11:14 AM   #6
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Double clutch:

While in gear, depress clutch pedal and shift into neutral, release clutch pedal

Depress clutch pedal, shift into next desired gear, release clutch pedal.

This might give you a little more information regarding the transmission:
http://www.howstuffworks.com/search....d+transmission

pick through some of the articles on there and see if you can learn anything new. I'll be honest, Im a dude and a few years back I didn't know much about the inner workings of automobiles, went on howstuffworks and learned quite a bit.

hope this helps
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Welcome and hope it all works out for you.
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Old 03-14-2011, 11:21 AM   #8
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Double clutch:

While in gear, depress clutch pedal and shift into neutral, release clutch pedal

Depress clutch pedal, shift into next desired gear, release clutch pedal.

Have to throw a "Rev" in there when downshifting to match the road speed.You are basically shifting without the synchronyzer like a Tractor Trailor.

Costwise it aint gonna be cheap.

Remove trans
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Welcome, Where are you located? There is a great Jeep/transmission shop here in Ft. Lauderdale.
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Old 03-14-2011, 11:26 AM   #10
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You can double check the Clutch fluid levels and the Gear Oil in the transmission too. But probably a synchro issue.

Back in the Day we used to call clutchless shifting "speed Shifting."
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You can double check the Clutch fluid levels and the Gear Oil in the transmission too. But probably a synchro issue.

Back in the Day we used to call clutchless shifting "speed Shifting."
Haha I speed shift in the wifes lil' 2005 pontiac sunfire, when I'm feeling like speed racer... or just don't want to be seen in that car for a long time
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Have to throw a "Rev" in there when downshifting to match the road speed.You are basically shifting without the synchronyzer like a Tractor Trailor.

Costwise it aint gonna be cheap.

Remove trans
Disassemble trans
Repair
Reinstall in vehicle
Yeah i forgot that, i just woke up and im trying to make my coffee lol
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Welcome, Where are you located? There is a great Jeep/transmission shop here in Ft. Lauderdale.
Im in boca so not too far if they're good. Can you send me their info please?

Thank you
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Have to throw a "Rev" in there when downshifting to match the road speed.You are basically shifting without the synchronyzer like a Tractor Trailor.

Costwise it aint gonna be cheap.

Remove trans
Disassemble trans
Repair
Reinstall in vehicle
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I luled at the title and all the responses. You go girl

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