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Old 04-18-2013, 09:36 AM   #31
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Is that reared damage I see in the picture? If so I would make sure it wasn't in an accident and u have frame issues that need to be fixed. I to have heard that the Dakota housing works with the AX15 but not sure what all you can bolt up to it. Keep in mind to the longer u make driveline (engine/trans/xnsfr) you will have to shorten your rear drive shaft and lengthen your front.

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Old 04-18-2013, 09:56 AM   #32
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After reading the two discussions about this, if I had the time and funds to swap my 2.5l with a 350 or even the 5.2l I would. 2.5 works good around town sucks on the hgwy and when I want that extra lets Go! It's not there.

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Old 04-18-2013, 09:57 AM   #33
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After reading the two discussions about this, if I had the time and funds to swap my 2.5l with a 350 or even the 5.2l I would. 2.5 works good around town sucks on the hgwy and when I want that extra lets Go! It's not there.
(And dummy me didn't read the discussion before my first post about the GC being a donor SMH!)
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:36 AM   #34
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I just did my swap 2 months ago so its all fresh in memory. I used a 93 gc engine, bellhousing, ax15 and t-case from a dakota(if you already have an ax15 just get a bellhousing.
If you are switching to the ax15 you will need a different drivers side exhaust manifold. If staying with the auto it can all just be left as is.
I got all the info you need, will share this way or pm or whatever. Just do it. Dive in. Its really not that tough.

I stuffed my engine back about 2" farther than needed so i had to do driveshafts but i needed to anyway so thats why i chose to. You can place it in the correct spot for your driveshafts no problem. I have about 10" between radiator and water pump(electric fan)

Radiator will need to be changed, neither will work. I used an aluminum one from summit racing that cost me $140. Just had to fab brackets.
That's pretty much what I expected and even hoped to hear. I would like to do the engine swap, keep my stock driveshafts and axles until I'm ready for stage 2 (8.8 and maybe sye), that way it's not a huge hit financially all at once. It's got the AX5 right now, which definitely won't work, so I'll either keep the auto that's on the donor or bolt on an AX15. I don't have a lot of mechanical knowledge, just enough to get me in over my head, but I've got a good mechanic who helps me a lot. I'm getting close to diving in, but dread the thought of my jeep sitting in garage for months on end while I deal with all the unexpected and pour more $ into it than anticipated. Seems as though everybody who has done a swap says it was PITA but well worth it after all said and done.
Parts list I've put together so far:
  • 5.2L from donor $0 to $500 depending on difference
  • Motor mounts $230.00
  • Headers $300 - most likely needed
  • Radiator $200
  • AX15 Tranny $200 - optional
  • Misc Parts $800 - junk yard and unexpected
  • Labor help $2000 - generous
So essentially I'm planning a $4k project swap and definitely don't want to spend more than that (whole jeep cost me $4500).

(and yes mudd it is frame damaged, which is why i can get it on the cheap)
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:22 PM   #35
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If you have a friend that can weld you can change your motor mounts to $5. Really simple to make a set from some flat bar. I can post a pic of mine.

Headers, i wouldnt. I have one side gc manifold, other side is durango. Fit fine.

I think the auto trans is longer and will force you to get driveshafts. One more selling point for ax15.

$800 is pretty accurate for misc. Considering flywheel and clutch will run ya $250ish then clutch hydraulics another $150 of course you can junkyard some of that and save $.

That auto trans is worth $300 around here. I got my ax15 and t-case combo for $125 at self serve yard.

My jeep was down 3 weeks and i didnt put that much time into it in those 3 weeks.
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:23 PM   #36
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Get your ducks in a row and dive in. Its not bad if ya do some research.
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On wanting to reuse your drive shaft Idk if this is or not but would be something to look into, are the slip yokes the same for the ax5 and ax15, as in will they cross over? because the input shafts on the transfers are different from one to the other, ax5- 21 spline vs. ax 15- 23 spline? someone correct me if Im wrong
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Old 04-19-2013, 01:22 AM   #38
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Slip yoke is the same.
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Old 04-19-2013, 02:52 PM   #39
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Ok, I think I'm about to start gathering parts. devilrmk you sure are encouraging and I really hope it ends up going as easy as yours. So far this is what I'm thinking I've got to gather, so feel free to help me out with others:

  • Engine (5.2L from 1997 grand cherokee donor)
  • Tranny (AX15 or NV3550, whatever I find first)
  • driveshafts (keeping stock)
  • Bellhousing and driver side manifold (find one off dodge dakota)
  • Radiator (Novak or Summit)
  • Engine Mounts (Novak or custom)
  • Axles (keep front, ford 8.8 or D44 rear)
  • Computer & diagnostics from donor.
Thats my rough list so far. I don't know what I need to do about the transfer case though? Also, I just put a 3" suspension lift on it, will I have to weld brackets to new rear axle in order to keep it? Thanks for all the help guys, nice to have all the encouragement and experience.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:15 PM   #40
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Just get an ax15, bellhousing and t-case from a dakota. Thats what i did. Was simple that way. T-case is same one as yours except with the correct input.
Manifold from a durango. The trucks(dakota and ram) drivers side extend too far back and will be against firewall. Durango is short.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:16 PM   #41
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Also need flywheel and clutch from a v8 truck. And hydraulics from a 95 yj.
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:59 AM   #42
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Awesome. I just bought my donor vehicle, it is the 97 grand cherokee with the 5.2L. I'm going to start searching and gathering the rest of the parts before I get started. Thanks for all the help guys, once I start the swap I'll post some pics and progress of build. All the swaps listed on here have helped me a ton so I'll return the favor. I may be hitting you up for more info devilrmk. Here we go!
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Looking forward to seeing it Hallitzer, keep us posted, build threads are by far my favorite threads to read on here.
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:34 PM   #44
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Feel free to pm me or post up here or whatever. I am on here a few times a day most days. Subscribed to your thread so i will see if you post.
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Awesome. A lot of helpful links there. I'll be starting in a few weeks when the spring weather gives way to summer. Definitely looking forward to this project.
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My 2.5 just died on me a couple days ago so I will be following this. You've got me interested.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:07 PM   #48
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I'm having trouble finding all the parts i need. I've been watching Craigslist a lot and called a few salvage yards. Any pointers you guys have on locating parts. I need an ax15 and dakota bellhousing among other things. I've finally got the money together to get this going but nothing besides my donor vehicle...
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:25 PM   #49
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I got my stuff from a self serve yard here. Not sure if you have any of those in your area. Around here its the best choice for older rigs like that. The normal yards don't carry older stuff. Get the ax15 from the same rig as the bellhousing. 92 and newer v6 dakota. Dime a dozen around here. If ya haven't already sourced a t-case get it from same rig as trans and bell.

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