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Old 12-05-2010, 01:27 PM   #1
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Where are Traction Bars?

Hey guys I want to get some more flex out of my jeep and want to remove the traction bars. The only problem is that I have no idea where they are and what they look like. Any help would be appreciated!

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They are called trac-bars. You have two one front one rear. The rear bar is attached at the passenger side frame rail to the driver side of the axle top. Front is passenger side of axle to drivers frame side.

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Old 12-05-2010, 03:46 PM   #3
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They are called trac-bars. You have two one front one rear. The rear bar is attached at the passenger side frame rail to the driver side of the axle top. Front is passenger side of axle to drivers frame side.
Pictures would be helpful :0
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Old 12-05-2010, 03:52 PM   #4
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Pictures would be helpful :0
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Old 12-05-2010, 04:14 PM   #5
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Leave your Trac-bars alone kids. If you don't know what they even look like then you don't know enough about what you are doing to remove them. Trac-bars are for highway safety and are on your Jeep for a reason. They were put there by Jeep designers that know a whole lot more about that vehicle than you do.
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Old 12-05-2010, 04:17 PM   #6
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Leave your Trac-bars alone kids. If you don't know what they even look like then you don't know enough about what you are doing to remove them. Trac-bars are for highway safety and are on your Jeep for a reason. They were put there by Jeep designers that know a whole lot more about that vehicle than you do.
Correct me if im wrong but many many people say they aren't entirely necessary on a leaf spring lift because the springs are stiff enough to keep the axle centered.... I dunno just what I have read many times over
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Leave your Trac-bars alone kids. If you don't know what they even look like then you don't know enough about what you are doing to remove them. Trac-bars are for highway safety and are on your Jeep for a reason. They were put there by Jeep designers that know a whole lot more about that vehicle than you do.
I'd have to disagree with that. Car designers put a lot of odd things in cars and leave a lot out. For example, no YJs have air bags. Most cars in the 90's had air bags. I can't honestly say that they had everyones best interest in mind. The YJ's safety in the suspension was put in to counter-act the reputations of the CJ.

It's your choice if you want them in. I can't tell the difference with them out. I feel sway bars are necessary.

So for locating you trac-bar, here is an image of a TJ. Although they are different, the look very similar. This will help you locate it the front one. Once you've seen the one up front, you'll spot the one in the rear:
http://jsautosource.com/_WpJsAS_com_...break-down.jpg
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:55 PM   #8
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I'd have to disagree with that. Car designers put a lot of odd things in cars and leave a lot out. For example, no YJs have air bags. Most cars in the 90's had air bags. I can't honestly say that they had everyones best interest in mind. The YJ's safety in the suspension was put in to counter-act the reputations of the CJ.

It's your choice if you want them in. I can't tell the difference with them out. I feel sway bars are necessary.

So for locating you trac-bar, here is an image of a TJ. Although they are different, the look very similar. This will help you locate it the front one. Once you've seen the one up front, you'll spot the one in the rear:
http://jsautosource.com/_WpJsAS_com_...break-down.jpg
Thank you for being so helpful. Nice jeep by the way.
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The leaf sprung jeeps have track bars?? Are you guys sure?? Maybe sway bars. If so, put some quick disconnects on them. I have been under a lot of jeeps and don't recall track bars on leaf setups, but I'm stoned and drunk half the time. If you run a TJ coil setup without a track bar, you need some other form of trailing arms to hold the axle close to center in the vehicle or it wont work well at all, or not at all.
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The leaf sprung jeeps have track bars?? Are you guys sure?? Maybe sway bars. If so, put some quick disconnects on them. I have been under a lot of jeeps and don't recall track bars on leaf setups, but I'm stoned and drunk half the time. If you run a TJ coil setup without a track bar, you need some other form of trailing arms to hold the axle close to center in the vehicle or it wont work well at all, or not at all.
All YJs came equipped with trac-bars.
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I really wanna remove mine aswell but haven't made the choice yet, and my front trac-bar has already cracked my frame where it mounts. My questions is were I haven't replaced my saggy old leaf springs and bushings yet, would I have a problem were new bushings and leafs wouldn't?
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I can just say I have taken mine off and have enjoyed the better ride.
it is a personal choice.
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I really wanna remove mine aswell but haven't made the choice yet, and my front trac-bar has already cracked my frame where it mounts. My questions is were I haven't replaced my saggy old leaf springs and bushings yet, would I have a problem were new bushings and leafs wouldn't?
You will stand a better chance of death wobble. The track bars do help in keeping everything in place. If you remove them and have worn bushings/springs, the Jeep will have more of a tendacy to wander. I actually had a bit of death wobble with them attached and the sway bars removed when I first got my Jeep. Replaced the springs/bushings with new lift kit and all has been fine. At first I kept the track bars installed, but took them off a couple of months later. The ride was much improved. I still keep my sway bars attached for street use.

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You will stand a better chance of death wobble. The track bars do help in keeping everything in place. If you remove them and have worn bushings/springs, the Jeep will have more of a tendacy to wander. I actually had a bit of death wobble with them attached and the sway bars removed when I first got my Jeep. Replaced the springs/bushings with new lift kit and all has been fine. At first I kept the track bars installed, but took them off a couple of months later. The ride was much improved. I still keep my sway bars attached for street use.

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You may have something there, but I have to disagree with my limited experence. I see no way a track bar will have any effect on the death wobble (or sway bars for that matter). If you have everything up to par and as it should be: bearing assemblies, ball joints, tie rod ends, good tires / strait and balanced wheels, and the most common DW overlook; breaks, you should have no DW problems. Track bars and sway bars should only assist you in abrupt street maneuvers. But the higher the lift and bigger the tire is always going to directly effect the jeeps tendency to want to "wander" the road, especially with a more stock steering set-up.
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When I had my experience with death wobble, it was on pavement after wheeling all day. I had hit a pot hole on the way back to camp. The Jeep was stock with the exception of 31" tires. What I was trying to say, but did not put it out there properly is that I belive the DW was caused by the bushings in my stock worn out springs were pretty shot. If one has worn bushings/springs, then the track bars will assist in keeping the axles from wanting to move in a side to side motion. Hope this clears things up. I am typing this while pretty tired and probably not making sense. So have a good night everyone. Time to hit the sack.

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