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Old 03-30-2012, 05:53 PM   #1
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What size winch is the best size for my 1989. Its a 4 cylinder 5 speed with 31x10.50's. Has anyone used a Badlands winch from Harbor Freight

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Old 03-30-2012, 08:33 PM   #2
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Depends on what you plan on doing with your winch. Warn winch says that the rule of thumb for deciding on the size is 2 1/2 times the weight of your vehicle. So, a wrangler winch should be around 8000lb. and a half ton pickup is at 12000lb. That will let you pull yourself out. As far as the Badlands winch, you get what you pay for. In my opinion, a smittybilt or ramsey is comparable in price with the Badlands winches, but they are much more winch when you look at the stats as far as battery draw and reliability. But its your personal preference. A friend of mine put a Badland winch on his cherokee, and after overheating it a few times and was still stuck, let me winch him out with my smittybilt, then he took it off and put it on his UTV.

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some other guys are running those badlands and when one of hte truck shows did a comparison of winches, the badlands ranked very high. beat out a number of name brand winches.

i have a tractor supply winch, whatever their house brand is, not the warn they sell. it has worked every time i have needed it. its only a 4500lb model though. i did by a snatch block so i really do need to pull myself or someone out of something, i can double the pulling capacity because i bought my winch for clearing brush and pulling down trees as we don;t have 4x4ing where i live
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Old 03-30-2012, 09:39 PM   #4
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The Badland winches do well from what I have seen, but if you are trying to get something cheap, you can get a better winch for less, and with a better warranty. I got my MileMarker for $280.00 shipped. The Engo is an awesome winch and is about the same price from Jeepaddons.com
The Badland winches are slow and have a crappy 90 day warranty if I remember correctly.
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Old 03-30-2012, 09:59 PM   #5
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I haven't had anything work from Harbor Freight!!!!
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:03 PM   #6
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I haven't had anything work from Harbor Freight!!!!
It usually works.....once.
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:04 PM   #7
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I like mine to be about 5 foot tall and 100 pounds


edit, thought you said wench hehe
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I like mine to be about 5 foot tall and 100 pounds


edit, thought you said wench hehe

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I bought the jeep wrangler knowing it needed some work and it came with a winch. But i thought it was too tiny for a jeep. It a Chicago 3,000 lb but it does alright with a snatch block
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I use a BadLands 12,000lbs and use it a lot on the farm, last week had to tie the heep to a tree to move a camp over some so it was over the peers that where set for it, made the old heep sit down on the bump stops but never even made a grunt, just drug it over in place.

PS it's the same Made in China winch as some of the others folks brag about on here, just different name and color, and I hate to say it but I use {and I mean USE} a lot of Harbor stuff.
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Quadratec has a nice winch for the money too. I was reading about it in my catalogue, and it looks very promising.
I have owned a few different winches from 8,000-10,000# and as far as my favorites I would have to say the MileMarker for speed, and overall quality, and the Smittybuilt XRC10 is a close second.
The Warn M8000 was the biggest disappointment that I have owned. I also had a Ramsey REP 8,000 which was good for 5 years, and them It busted all to pieces. The Warn and the Ramsey cost more than 2 times as much as the Smitty at the time. However keep in mind that everyones experiences are different, I am just sharing mine with you
But to answer you original question.......an 8,00# winch will do you just fine in a YJ
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Quadratec has a nice winch for the money too. I was reading about it in my catalogue, and it looks very promising.
I have owned a few different winches from 8,000-10,000# and as far as my favorites I would have to say the MileMarker for speed, and overall quality, and the Smittybuilt XRC10 is a close second.
The Warn M8000 was the biggest disappointment that I have owned. I also had a Ramsey REP 8,000 which was good for 5 years, and them It busted all to pieces. The Warn and the Ramsey cost more than 2 times as much as the Smitty at the time. However keep in mind that everyones experiences are different, I am just sharing mine with you
But to answer you original question.......an 8,00# winch will do you just fine in a YJ
Good luck
What did you find disappointing about the M8000? I've been considering that one since the price has come down lately.
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What did you find disappointing about the M8000? I've been considering that one since the price has come down lately.
It wasn't worth the money (I paid $900.00), and it would make some crazy grinding noises when used hard. I sold it and bought the 10,000 Smittybuilt and was much happier with it for 2 years until I sold the Jeep it was on.
Warn makes some good stuff, but not as good as they use to IMO.
I can buy 2 good winches for the cost of one Warn. I also saw first hand, a brand new VR8000 bust the gears internally at the last outing in the mountains. My buddys "cheap china" $350.00 winch save the day pull after pull.
There are good and bad everything, these are just my experiences, and I am saying that spending 2-3 times as much isn't always a sure thing. If the brand matters, get a Warn. My MileMarker has really impressed me so far, and is the fastest winh I have owned
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It wasn't worth the money I paid ($950.00), and it would make some crazy noises when used hard. I sold it and bought the 10,000 Smittbuilt and was much happier with it. Warn makes some good stuff, but not as good as they use to IMO.
I can buy 2 good winches for the cost of one Warn. I also saw fist hand a brand new VR8000 bust the gears internally at the last outing in the mountains. My buddys "cheap china" winch saved the day pull after pull. There are good and bad everything, these are just my experiences, and I am saying that spending 2-3 times as much isn't always a sure thing
I agree. I was set on the Smittybilt 8k until the M8000 came down below $500. Hmm.

Edit: maybe it was just over $500. Can't remember for sure but it was a good sale.
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I agree. I was set on the Smittybilt 8k until the M8000 came down below $500. Hmm.

Edit: maybe it was just over $500. Can't remember for sure but it was a good sale.
I think you are talking about the VR8000 which is their "cheap winch" The M8000 is around can be bought cheaper than when I had one at around $700-800 usually. The VR8000 si about $500-600

I used my MileMarker again tonight (just got home) and it was a really hard pull. An friend's XJ was stuck in some 2' mud with a tire off the bead I got him out, but it was tough on my charging system

I need a stronger alternator. I have a 1020ca and 785cca battery.

Anyone getting a winch, whatever you buy, make plans to get atleast a 750cca battery. I savend by buying a cheaper but name brand winch, and was able to still have some $ left to buy a decent battery
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I think you are talking about the VR8000 which is their "cheap winch" The M8000 is around can be bought cheaper than when I had one at around $700-800 usually. The VR8000 si about $500-600
Nah, it was the M8000. They are $600 on Amazon now, but some vendors were having a price war with Amazon a couple of months ago and the M8k got down to about $200 more than the Smitty. I almost snatched one up then.

Ed: M8k on Amazon: $625, then $50 rebate = $575 shipped. Not bad, but you didn't care for the Warn d5string? Geez, never mind, I see your reason above.
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After re-wiring and putting new solenoids in my old Ramsey 8k and still having to dig my way out of a slight snow situation last fall because the winch burnt out, again, I have just installed the Ramsey Patriot 9500 on my YJ.

Here in Colorado hardly an outing goes by that we don't come across some guy who is in dire straits so my having an over-sized winch is to their benefit. :-)

I use mine pretty hard because I move boulders and logs on my property with it. The old Ramsey came with the Jeep. It was old when I got it and I used it like a dog. I have no complaints.
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I got the smittybuilt 8k for 300.00 shipped and a winch cover for free. Only used it a couple times but it worked great. Also pulled it out pretty quickly.
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Warn 8274 will be the first and last winch you will ever need....mines 34 years old and still rocking
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ouch... that cost more than my jeep!
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Warn 8274 will be the first and last winch you will ever need....mines 34 years old and still rocking
X2, I traded one away(stupid, I know) but it was a heavy hitter. Now I have a 8k and 10k warn. I love the 10k, plenty of power, and warns always work. My buddy was telling me how great his smittybuilt winch was.....as my warn was pulling him out. Just my .02. Nothing but warns for me!
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you can pick up a good used 8274 for 400-600 usually
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I use a Smittybilt 8000 on my wrangler. Love the thing, and has never failed me. I bought it through quadratec, and for an aditional 30 bucks, they gave me a lifetime warranty on everything but the cable. cheap insurance i guess. my father in law has a warn 8000 on his wrangler, and in all honesty, the smittybilt works just as good!

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