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Old 07-25-2010, 05:40 PM   #31
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Lift: Rubicon Express 2.5 standard lift, upgraded to the extreme lift (as in JP magazine)
shocks: Rubicon Express kit supplied
SYE/CVD: no (got transfer case lowering kit in kit)
Tires: 30x9.5x15 mud tire (now discontinued)

Friend of mine that has a jeep shop put the kit on for me. According to him, the kit was nice to put on. I also have M.O.R.E. shackles, rears being boomerangs, fully greasable shackle bolts and bushings, added the stainless braided brake line extensions, rear track bar removed, front relocated, and sway bar disconnects-rubicon express.

Totally smooth ride compared to the stock springs that have been on the jeep since 1995 from production. So far, has settled in at 3.25 inches with the M.O.R.E. shackles. I would recommend this lift, and definitely get the shackles. The stock ones don't do the lift justice. Quieter ride, and again, so much softer.



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Old 08-06-2010, 11:44 PM   #32
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Lift: BDS 2" Standard Lift Kit
Shocks: BDS Supplied in Kit
SYE/CVD: No ( T-Case drop kit included in kit )
Tires: 31"x10.50" LTX's ( Came w/ Jeep from PO)

I ordered a complete kit from my loacl BDS dealer and had them install it.
Took one guy 6 hours to do it and do alignment. Kit was complete w/
Springs, shocks, T-case drop, brake relocation and track bar relocation brackets.

Guy had to sawzall off the 21 year old bolts on the intierior leaf spring
eyes. But other than that he said it went in smooth and they do alot
of the BDS lifts. $869 out the door including new bolts, shims and align.

I think it looks super cool compared to the tires being stuffed and rubbing,
I measured before and after and it lifted it 3" due to saggy old springs.



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Old 09-07-2010, 12:06 AM   #33
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LIFT: Rough Country 2.5"
SHOCKS: Rough Country Hydro 8000
SYE/CVD: Not yet probably soon
TIRES: 255/75x15 (30.9 inch overall height)

I lowered the transfer case and had to have a couple of degree wedges for the leafs machined at the local shop because the ones in the kit weren't quite enough to get the job done on my YJ. After driving it for about 125 miles I found this kit to be a little bouncy but way more easier on the old bones than the original equipment. I will be removing my rear track bar this weekend to see if it will soften it up a bit. ALL and ALL I really like this kit and would recommend it to anyone.

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Old 09-23-2010, 03:14 PM   #34
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LIFT: Rough Country 4" Lift

SHOCKS: Rough Country Nitro 9000


TIRES/WHEELS: 33x12.50.15 Yokohama Geolandar AT's on 15x8 Eagle Alloys, 31x10.50x15 BFGoodrich MT KM2's on 15" Gamblers


-Easy Install
-Came with everything you need to install the kit
-Good Directions
-Great Quality
-RC has great customer service
-I gained a little more than the quoted 4 inches with the kit

Dis-Likes: None so far

Would You Recommend: Yes. For somebody on a budget trying to get a good kit this is the only way to go. Since I have added RC's 1.25" lift shackles to get a little extra room for the 33's I have now. Those were also shipped fast and came with easy-to-follow directions (not that shackles are a tough job ).


With the 31's and no lift shackles

With the 33's and lift shackles
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Old 09-26-2010, 10:17 AM   #35
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1994 wrangler s
Rock Krawler 8" coilover conversion
Rock Krawler 18" travel shocks
Procomp 35" extreme A/T tires
Stock axles and gears/open diffs
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Old 09-26-2010, 11:36 AM   #36
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4.5" Rubicon Express Extreme Duty

LIFT:4.5" Rubicon Express Extreme Duty
SHOCKS: Rubicon Express Twin Tube
SYE/CVD: Not yet … going to add later on.
TIRES/WHEELS: 31X10.50 Goodyear Wrangler. 15x8.5 American Racing

Likes: Easy to install (self installed in a weekend). I got lucky and all but a couple of bolts came loose easily only problem I had was my Pitman arm didn’t want to come loose. Broke one puller and ended up using a lot of PB Blaster a torch and a pickle fork to get it off. Good instructions, fairly clear and step by step. I love the way this lift looks and the ride is much better than the old worn out suspension and better than some other lifts I have had experience with.

Dis-Likes: Front shocks on back order took about 3 or 4 weeks to come in.

Would You Recommend: Yeah, great lift for the money

Shocks on the front in the pics are not the ones with the lift.
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Old 09-27-2010, 02:22 AM   #37
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lift: 2.5 old man emu with 1" daystar bodymount body lift
shocks: old man emu
sye/cvd: not yet will install when i put in 8.8 ford rear
tires/wheels: 33x12.5x15 pro comp mud terrains, mickey thompson rims
likes: improved ride and handling
dislikes:was expensive to other lifts

I would reccommend this lift highly i have noticed a big difference in the ride and handling of my jeep, 1987 yj with 4.2 and auto trans
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Old 10-14-2010, 08:19 AM   #38
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4.5 bds

SHOCKS BDS 5500 series
SYE/Driveshaft Advanced Adapters/ Tom Woods rear
TIRES 33x12.50x15 Procomp Xterrains
LIKES Easy install with mechanical ability, military wrapped heavy duty springs, nice smooth ride, definitely gained more than the stated 4.5 inches, great instructions on installation.
DISLIKES None yet ( haven't trail tested it)
RECOMMENDED So far yes, I bought the jeep with a sheisty shackle and body lift on it and took the body lift off. It looks 100 and rides 100 times better. Improved steering as well.
MISC I would definitely recommend getting an SYE and a new, longer rear DS. Make sure you have a bit of cash on the side for misc parts and tools. Hit all of the bolts and nuts on your jeep the night or a few hours before because some of them can be a real hassle to get off and tighten all of the bolts while jacked up but don't torque them until you drop it and rest the weight of your vehicle on the new springs so it can settle in a bit. I put on new tube fenders as well so these in conjunction with the lift will allow a 35" tire.
COST About 1400 for the lift and 530 for the driveshaft and SYE so 1930 all together. Free shipping if you have it shipped to a distributor.


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In process of building it up into a monster.
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Old 11-04-2010, 06:44 PM   #39
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4" Rough Country Suspension Lift

I like it so far... only had it about a week. Been off road twice & spent the rest of the time on the highway. I thought it was going to be a harder ride, but I am impressed.

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Old 11-07-2010, 09:19 PM   #40
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LIFT: Rough Country 4"
SHOCKS: nitro 8000 (base shocks that come with the kit)
SYE/CVD: n/a
TIRES/WHEELS: 29" yokohama geolanders on 15x8 craiger soft 8s [temporary until money for 33s]

Likes: well priced, comes with everything you need (transfer case drop, a new hardware minus a few bolts, pitman arm etc.)

Dis-Likes: had some problems with the instructions and some beef with rough country themselves. First off, i think it was ups's fault but i only got 3 leafs sent the first 'wave' of packages. Second problem, i was shorted two shock bushings. However when i called R.C. they overnighted the bushings plus two new shocks as well.

Would You Recommend: yes for those on a budget

Picture(s): no pics yet :[
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Old 11-11-2010, 07:34 PM   #41
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Got my Rough Country 2.5 lift on! I had trouble with rusty bolts but used a wheel cutter and saws all to take care of that. The ride is nice and not to stiff. The old suspension was shot so it looks great with the new lift and the kit was a breeze to put on. I would recommend the RC lift to anyone. I also added 1 inch boomerang shackles to the front and rear. When I first took it out for a ride I had a vibration at 35 mph but this was fixed by repositioning the rear diff on the provided shims. the next question is what do I do next?
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:17 AM   #42
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I have 4in RC lift with 33s, 6cyl, auto, stock gears. It's only been on for 2 weeks. It does take off slower but then again its a jeep so I'm OK with it...its not like I'm holding up traffic.

I've done over 100 miles at 70mph on the freeway. My RPMs are lower on the freeway. I think around 2400-2500ish vs 3000-3200ish pre lift. Feels like I could go faster but I usually don't like to drive my jeep any faster then 65-70mph. I do live in Tucson so no big hills on the freeway. If you have a lot of hills to drive on the freeway you may not be able to keep 70mph.

I just did the transfer case drop and pitman arm drop and I don't notice any vibration. The ride is pretty firm compared to my 15 year old stock springs/shocks.
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Old 11-23-2010, 03:39 PM   #43
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LIFT:4" Rough Country suspension
SHOCKS:RC Nitro 8000
TIRES/WHEELS: 31x10.5....came on the Jeep. Replacing soon.

Likes: The ride is very much improved. It's softer, and less harsh. Looks great, and provide a nice amount of flex. The shocks are fantastic. Also, Rough Country's customer support is fantastic. Very nice, and very helpful

Dis-Likes:The instructions leave a lot out. They don't tell you how to actually install the leaf springs. There were a few other things left out as well. I figured it out pretty easily, but I know that a lot of people would struggle with it.

Would You Recommend: Yes. It's a great lift for the price, and the parts are quality.

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Old 12-20-2010, 07:57 PM   #44
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LIFT:4" Rough Country suspension, 1 1/4 Boom Shackles
SHOCKS:RC Nitro 9000
TIRES/WHEELS: 33x12.50x15 TSL Bias Swampers

Likes: A somewhat softer ride than stock. Flex out great. Price cannot be beat. Excellent customer service.

Dis-Likes: Not for more hardcore wheeling. Have bent a front main leaf twice. First time was before the installation of the boom shackles. They warrantied it without problems and also replaced a sagging spring. Bent another spring in the front (towards the spring hanger this time) after boom shackle installation. Rear springs sagged again. Once again RC replaced quickly though.

Would You Recommend: Yes, for the weekend wheeler this is a great kit. I highly recommend the Nitro 9000 shocks over the standard hydros (you'll notice the hydros are way to soft and get noticeable body roll in corners). The Perf 2.2 shocks in my opinion are way too stiff. The 9000's are perfect.

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Old 12-28-2010, 05:36 AM   #45
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lift still doing good... still measures same height! no saggy springs yet... fingers crossed...

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Old 01-21-2011, 01:04 PM   #46
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lift-sky jacker 4 inch
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rubber- what other than all terrain BF's
likes- best setup iv ever had on a jeep smooth ride on the street and incredible off road
dislike- price
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Old 01-31-2011, 02:18 PM   #47
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Man, disappointing to see only two BDSers in this thread.

2" BDS
SHOCKS: BDS hydro shocks
SYE/CVD: Advanced Adapters SYE, Six States DS
TIRES/WHEELS: 35" Cooper STTs, 15" Allied Type-51s (deceptive since I have tube fenders and a 1" BL. I rubbed these tires just sitting beforehand.

Likes: Complete kit (even though I didn't need the track bar brackets). Easy install given you don't have many rust problems. Double military wrap. Strong as hell; no sag after two years, but still flexes decently on the trail. Actually got more than 2" from the lift (more like 2.5-3").

Dis-Likes: Double military wrap means you need lift shackles in the rear to clear the spring during compression. Not too big a deal, but it is an extra expense. The center pin was too long for my D35 perches and contacted the tubes before seating properly. Had to trim the center pin down. Again, not too big a deal, but extra labor. This wouldn't have been a problem with my D44 though.

Would You Recommend: Yes. A cheap lift, but the quality is definitely there. I've banged the hell out of these guys on rocks and logs and such and they just don't give up. Plus BDS's ironclad warranty has me reassured.


These are on my previous 31" KM1s. I had only slight rub at full flex with these tires on stock, uncut fenders.

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Old 02-09-2011, 11:03 PM   #48
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My 1st lift install...

4" Rough Country sitting on 30" mud terrains for now..This took me more time than it should have but did not need to cut any bolt! Still have to do the pitman arm but so far so good?! Did the front the 1st day and the rear the next. Next up....rims and tires!
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Why did I wait so long to buy my first jeep??
'92 YJ 4.0 5spd....mostly 4
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:49 AM   #49
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LIFT: RE 4.5" with 1" BL
SHOCKS: The shocks that came with the lift? I can not remember off hand.
SYE/CVD: Advance Adapters SYE, Tom Woods CV driveshaft
TIRES/WHEELS: 35x12.5x15 BFG KM2

Likes: Good ride, easy to install with little experience.

Dis-Likes: Springs did sag quickly, but i think it was actually 5.5" of lift when new.

Would You Recommend: Yes but I would have liked to to a SOA back then. I am currently getting everything together to do a SOA.


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RE 4.5", 1" BL, 33's

RE 4.5", 1" BL, 35's
92 Wrangler, 4.0, SOA, 2" BDS, 1" BL, 35x12.5 BFG KM2, Rear Ford 8.8, Advance Adapters SYE, Tom Woods CV driveshaft
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Old 03-02-2011, 12:39 PM   #50
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Hmm, editing has passed for my post, but I took some flex shots last time I was out. I use the term "flex" loosely because as you can see since they're only 2" springs they don't have too much travel to them. I've had these springs on there for a couple years. I'd imagine they're broken in by now, but they're still really strong. No settling, but they kinda fight me in the twists a little.

It's kinda hard to see, but directly underneath the hanging, front, passenger tire where the shadow meets the light is where my rear tire is contacting the ground.

If a mod could merge this with my previous post I'd appreciate it!
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:01 PM   #51
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Fabtech 3.5"

I have a fabtech 3.5" spring lift with a 1" shackle lift and a 1" body lift. It drives and rides good, even with the rear track bar and front sway bar off. If I jack up one tire, front or back, I can lift it 17" without the other tire coming off the ground. This is not great but not real bad. I got the Jeep with the lift on it so there is no before photo. I would like to know what others get for articulation when only one wheel is lifted.

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Ken F. Michigan. 2014 Jeep Willys Wheeler 2dr Hardtop Auto. Rough Country 634 - 2.5 inch lift, Rough Country 1029 - Front Sway Bar Quick Disconnects, Front Eaton E Locker, Rear Limited Slip. Warn Front Bumper and Winch with #17 springs to hold them up.
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Old 03-08-2011, 02:31 PM   #52
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4 inch skyjacker, very nice ride. love it
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:00 PM   #53
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I have a 2.5 inch rubicon express lift + 3 inch body lift. i like it just fine. id like to get rid of the body lift and do SOA. but i know id have to change alot.
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:36 AM   #54
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LIFT: 2.5" Rough Country with 1" HD greasable shackles
SHOCKS: RC hydro shocks
SYE/CVD: Rubicon Express Shims, 1" tranny drop
TIRES/WHEELS: 31" BFG ATs, 15" ION Wheels

Likes: The ride is much more firmer and comfortable. Articulation has improved. The kit was complete and RC customer service was helpful when running into snags installing the kit. The look is much better than I anticipated. Of course my factory springs were flat, so I ended up getting 3.5-4.0" out of the left with the Shackles. RC was the best 2.5" kit for the money.

Dis-Likes: The instructions that came with the RC kit left out several key issues and problems. However, picking up the phone and calling RC was easy and helpful. Jeff was the most knowledgeable.

Would You Recommend: Yes. This is the best bang for the buck on a YJ lift kit. I have lifted both TJs and YJs and this kit, by far, rides better and looks better than several other companies. IMHO.

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Old 03-23-2011, 09:15 AM   #55
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LIFT:Rough Country 2 1/2
SHOCKS:rough country nitro 9000 series
TIRES/WHEELS:31in bfg all terrains, American racing rims

Likes:fairly easy install....gained over 5 inches of lift

Dis-Likes:since I gained so much lift I had to buy extended brake lines and longer disco's

Would You Recommend:yes
after lift:
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Old 04-01-2011, 07:04 PM   #56

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1993 Jeep YJ Lift on 35's

LIFT:3.5" Fabtech suspension with 1" warrior shackles and 3" body SHOCKS: Fabtech SYE/CVD:NO
TIRES/WHEELS:35x12.50X15 Federal courgia mud with 15X10 DC

Likes: Easy to install, Rides nice and great instructions

Dis-Likes: None so far

Would You Recommend: Yes
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Old 04-03-2011, 10:24 PM   #57
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Ome 87 yj

Installed an OME suspension system and love it. I have nothing bad to say, except maybe paying more than I would like, BUT it is by far THE best suspension for leaves I've ever rode on.

I would like to point out that I do not do a lot of rock crawling, I do more expidition/overland type offroading, so if you want a BIG lift, OME is not for you (mine settled to 2.25"). I am running 31x10.50 Kuhmo AT tires.

Before OME

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With OME

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Old 05-29-2011, 08:41 PM   #58

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Beware of bolt-on kits..........

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Old 05-29-2011, 08:47 PM   #59

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Beware of bolt-on kits..........

HI ya, DOC and everybody,

.............especially these

I thought I'd take the easy way out and put a "Bolt-on" SOA kit on my YJ. It turned out to be my worst exprience in a long jeepin' history.

I purchased a Rocky Road 6.5" Bolt-on SOA kit. Bolt-on my A55. The problems started early on. Got the kit and laid it out to inventory the parts, as per the instructions. Good thing too, I was short two spring perches. Got ahold of Rocky Road Outfitters and they acted like "I kicked their dog" when I told them of the missing parts. This should've given me an indication of things to come. A couple of weeks later I got the perches. Started the install. The front went together as it should. I picked the front end first, because I figured it would be the most difficult. Wrong again. Jumped on the rear, being excited about the front, dropped the axle out and bolted the springs back up to the shackles. Tried to put the rear perches on, and they wouldn't slip over the axle tubes per the instruction. These perches are suppose to key off the exsisting perches to get the proper pinion angle. Contacted RRO again and they said "axle tube diameters may vary and I might have to do some grinding to get it too fit". My response was "it's a bolt-on kit, I shouldn't have to make any modifications". Got that done and slid the perches over the axle tubes. Jack the axle into place and u-bolts on(loose fit). It just didn't look right. The pinion angle was abut 15 degrees off. So, I dropped the axle out and made sure everything was as the instructions said. It was. I contacted RRO, again, and they told me "I shouldn't be working on my Jeep" and "little girls know more about Jeeps than I do". At this point I had had enough. Ask for a refund, and was told I couldn't get a refund because I modified the perches. See the irony? I promptly reported them to the BBB. Didn't get my money back. I had to cut over an inch from the front key points of the rear perches to get the angle I required. Then had to weld the perches to the axle tubes. All in all, I got it to work. Got it all bolted up and torqued. Dropped it on the gound measured for shocks and finished. End of the story "customer service has died(or was dead)at Rocky Road Outfitters". Best I can figure, they're not Jeep people. Their main customer base is Japan based vehicles(Samurai, Sidekick, Tracker, Grand Vitara and toyota.

I'll never patronize Rock Road Outfitters again, and I caution others not too.

If you expect and value customer service, Stay away from these guys.

As Forrst Jump would say "that's all I have to say about that"
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:10 PM   #60
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88 yj 4.2

88 yj wrangler
4 inch RC susp
3 inch body
2 inch shackle

rides good. susp lift has only been on for a couple of days but i love it. this is just a toy so went a cheap route. had just the body lift with 32x11.50's for years just put the 4 inch rc susp lift and 2 inch shackles with 36x11.50's. tires and lift installed cost me around $1700. it's been great so far. still needs some work. steering is a bit squirley besides that i'm impressed so far.
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