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Old 03-19-2009, 09:35 PM   #1
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yj shackle lift problem

so i got both front shackles off, no problem didnt even have to spray shit on them, it was jacked up by the front bumper with my new 54" hi lift jack (which by the way guys, are only bout 45 bucks free shipping right now at 4wheel parts.com) so youd think the leaf springs would hang low enough to get the new shackles on but they hardly moved down. theres no way i could pull them down by hand either... ya i got brand new leaf springs but so what.. i even jacked it so the tires were off the ground and it wouldnt go down. im thinkin my so called 3" susp lift already on it, may not have the right shocks, (black diamond shocks) im thinkin hangin with the tires off the ground, the shocks were just maxed out and that held it up. not to mention my little brake lines were pretty tight to (not that that would hold it, just sayin) so what do yall think?? but if those are shocks for the 3" susp, another 1.25" shackle lift sure as shit shouldnt max them out?!?!!?! so basically what is it? do i somehow gotta do something to bend my leafs down for the bigger shackles to get in or what? hell then it looks like i gotta get longer brake lines! what a PITA! lemme know boys!

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Old 03-19-2009, 10:23 PM   #2
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take a look and see if undoing the brake line brackets is enough. it was on my 3 inch shackle lift, and even with stock springs I had to use my breaker bar in the front to lower the spring enough, and in the rear i had to use a floor jack between the spring and the frame.

Thanks for the heads up on the hilift... I actually almost bought one locally today for 80 bux

It's probably your sway bar limiting the travel, loosen the bracket holding the bushing to the frame. You should do something about that btw.. considering your pushing 4.5 inches of lift.

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Old 03-19-2009, 10:51 PM   #3
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k, i can pop off the sway on the leaf bracket, ya i didnt know if i needed to pry the front spring down that hard or not... guess so... ill prolly take her all apart tomorrow again... did you have to change your sway, get a new disconnect kind maybe?? i had 7 inches of lift on a tj and left them disconnected the whole time, never noticed anything on turns or ever.... hopefully the brake lines cooperate!

.... where the hell is jpdocdave!??! haha hes usually got something to add to help me out!
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When dropping the springs you will need to remove the shocks and the sway bar more than likely. I would ditch the sway bar it was only put on there to appease Ralph Nader anyway. If I were you I would relocate the brake line to the bottom side of the frame, it will keep your lines from getting stretched and breaking, cause it basically gives you 4 more inches of line for free .

It is normal for the springs to be tight, especially with 3" lift, the arc of the spring is alot greater than that, however if you remove everything else, you could just use a big prybar to pop it out of the existing shackles. make sure your drag link isn't binding it either though you don't want to damage it in the process .
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i used to take the spare tire jack out from under the hood and put it between the frame and the spring, and jack the spring down against the frame to get bigger shackles on.
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I had to lower it down about half inch, maybe less. We have state inspections here in NH so I can't ditch anything. I just used a few spacers and a flat peice of metal on each side.. I even went out and got everything to make disconnects out of cotter pins but I never ended up putting those on.
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i used to take the spare tire jack out from under the hood and put it between the frame and the spring, and jack the spring down against the frame to get bigger shackles on.
I never thought of keeping it for that reason, I usually just ditch the stock jack as it won't reach any part of my jeep from the ground anymore anyway
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I never thought of keeping it for that reason, I usually just ditch the stock jack as it won't reach any part of my jeep from the ground anymore anyway
ya i know, i discovered this trick out of frustration, trying to install shackles for one of my first times many eons ago. started looking around, and saw that dinky jack under the hood, tried it, and it works pretty good.
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i used to take the spare tire jack out from under the hood and put it between the frame and the spring, and jack the spring down against the frame to get bigger shackles on.
We have a winner...I thought everybody knew that trick.
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i thought i was the only one
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naw i even thought to try that with the stock jack but figured i was hung up on something, i didnt wanna mess anything up with all that pressure.... k boys thanks ill prolly giver hell today again, gotta run with a buddy to look at some nice 31's all terrains for his truck
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Old 03-20-2009, 01:18 PM   #12
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you won't mess anything up, its just the spring tension giving you the problem
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You be careful using that Hi-lift while working on the heep. Those things are not very stable when you have the jeep off the ground.
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ya i saw that, it is kinda unstable, it shook while changin the tires off my buddys silverado... hey jpdocdavei was in bp today pickin up tires!
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^oh yeah, where at?
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^oh yeah, where at?

i was off off sheridan and beach road, left on gerraty i believe all the way down to the dead end
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Well I suppose you could have been the only one.. but then your old highschool teachers, sisters cousin on her dads side, not the one that went into the Navy but the other one, went and told everybody.. so that's how I found out.
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i was off off sheridan and beach road, left on gerraty i believe all the way down to the dead end

i live basically on geraghty, but off of wadsworth rd. you passed right by my house basically.
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Well I suppose you could have been the only one.. but then your old highschool teachers, sisters cousin on her dads side, not the one that went into the Navy but the other one, went and told everybody.. so that's how I found out.
i always hated that guy, what else did he tell you? its not true.

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