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Old 09-26-2013, 05:05 PM   #31
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My guess is the trailer weighs under 750 pounds, probably closer to 600. It's all fiberglass and this is with the tonneau on it. Jeff may be able to tell us for sure.
I never weighed that trailer, but based on the parts and materials that went into the construction it should be about 550 lbs.

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So the last major item to check off for us was the ability to carry extra fuel on the Jeep when we don't have the trailer with us. The trailer has a great rack up front to load with fuel and water for the trip. It also has a rear 2" receiver.

The thought was to design a fuel carrier that can be transported in the hitch of the trailer until we get to camp. Unhook the trailer, slide it in the Jeep and we are off for the day with out having to move the highlift, fuel and shovel from trailer to vehicle.

Any recommendations or changes anyone sees that may make it function better? It will block the rear door which is a pain but with the JKU we will have the back doors to get stuff out of. I want to keep it as rigid as possible so I don't really want to do any tilt, etc.

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So the last major item to check off for us was the ability to carry extra fuel on the Jeep when we don't have the trailer with us. The trailer has a great rack up front to load with fuel and water for the trip. It also has a rear 2" receiver.

The thought was to design a fuel carrier that can be transported in the hitch of the trailer until we get to camp. Unhook the trailer, slide it in the Jeep and we are off for the day with out having to move the highlift, fuel and shovel from trailer to vehicle.

Any recommendations or changes anyone sees that may make it function better? It will block the rear door which is a pain but with the JKU we will have the back doors to get stuff out of. I want to keep it as rigid as
possible so I don't really want to do any tilt, etc.

Sounds like a good plan and I sure do like to plan things out, but I'm just curious. Where are you going to wheel at on a day trip after you drop the trailer that you will need extra gas? Just curious.
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Another idea would be to mount the jerry cans on the side of the Jeep like I've done on my LJ...



The can carriers mount in receivers that bolt to the frame of the Jeep, there's no drilling on the Jeep at all, everything's a bolt-on. The jerry can holders slide into the frame-mounted receivers; they could just be held in with the hitch pins, but there are also anti-rattle bolts on the main shaft to really snug them into place and completely prevent any movement in the receiver or rattling. A Blitz-style jerry can holder is bolted to the bracket. The bracket is sized/shaped in such a way as to place the can holder above the flare extension and close to the body. And mounting them here, they don't interfere with the tailgate of the Jeep or of the trailer.



These are for a TJ/LJ obviously, so we'd have to see how this idea would apply to a JK and what it would take to make frame mounts for the JK, I haven't worked on a JK design for these yet.
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Jeff was kind enough to loan me his RTT until mine arrives next week. We slept in it last night to see how it slept as well as what additions we may need to make it nicer for the trip.

Tent went up in less than 15 mins after a quick instruction course by Jeff the night before. The tent is very stable on the Compact Dinoot with the rear levelers down. No noticeable wobble while getting in or moving around the tent. Once loaded, I'm sure it will be even more solid.

The night only dropped to 50 but I was comfortable in just a blanket. Only things we deemed to be an issue was somewhere to put our shoes and a little more cushioning. The mattress is fine especially for people that sleep on a firm bed but us Tempurpedic folks need a little more cushioning





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That looks awesome! Were you ok with humidity? No "wet" feeling or anything like that? You get an inflatable mattress (I have a queen) to address the comfort, or maybe some sort of foam pad?
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No wet feeling at all in this last night, we'll try again on a colder night to see how it goes. Last night we had the windows zipped down to the screens on our heads and feet and the side windows cracked open. I've slept in a ton of tents over the years and I can't stand that sticky humid feeling at all. This tent seems to vent very well.

I will have onboard air so we may go the air mattress route. I have a set of inflatable thermarest pads that we will try next. For most hardcore people the pad would probably be great, I'm just looking for ultimate comfort.

The only moisture I did notice was between the mattress pad and the foam board base this morning. I left the tent open to air out and sent an email to the manufacturer of the tent to see what options there were to prevent this. It's just an airflow issue since our body heat is heating mattress and foam board is insulating the outside air. No issue except you may get a musty smell if it is zipped up wet when we move campsites.
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No wet feeling at all in this last night, we'll try again on a colder night to see how it goes. Last night we had the windows zipped down to the screens on our heads and feet and the side windows cracked open. I've slept in a ton of tents over the years and I can't stand that sticky humid feeling at all. This tent seems to vent very well.

I will have onboard air so we may go the air mattress route. I have a set of inflatable thermarest pads that we will try next. For most hardcore people the pad would probably be great, I'm just looking for ultimate comfort.

The only moisture I did notice was between the mattress pad and the foam board base this morning. I left the tent open to air out and sent an email to the manufacturer of the tent to see what options there were to prevent this. It's just an airflow issue since our body heat is heating mattress and foam board is insulating the outside air. No issue except you may get a musty smell if it is zipped up wet when we move campsites.
You're trying to tow a Holiday Inn around huh? OBA will take forever to inflate the mattress me thinks. I use one of these and it works very well for both my raft and my mattresses.


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Thanks for the tip on the pump, another thing added into the packing list if we go the air mattress route.

Can't wait for the package. My little helper is looking forward to wiring up some lights tonight if my brackets arrive. Mom's out of town this weekend so she'll be turning wrenches to install the lift this weekend.

If it wasn't for her little fingers and arms I don't think I would have gotten that Rampage bumper on around the vacuum pump.
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Thanks for the tip on the pump, another thing added into the packing list if we go the air mattress route.

Can't wait for the package. My little helper is looking forward to wiring up some lights tonight if my brackets arrive. Mom's out of town this weekend so she'll be turning wrenches to install the lift this weekend.

If it wasn't for her little fingers and arms I don't think I would have gotten that Rampage bumper on around the vacuum pump.
A swivel socket and a long extension makes it a lot easier for us fat handed folk. If you need help with the lift kit install, just hit me up and I'll give you some tips to make it easy as pie.

One last thing to keep in mind...not getting into politics here, but keep an eye out for the government shutdown, since this crap closed national parks. Now lots of Moab isn't a national park so you don't have anything to worry about, just keep that in mind and plan accordingly.
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Now you're cooking with fire! lol...That's nice.
An air and a foam mattress are just about as comfortable however if it is cold the air in an air mattress will be cold which can be miserable. The only problem with a foam mattress is it takes up more space. During the summer or mild temps I use the air. For winter camping I use foam unless backpacking then I use a thermarest insulated pad that you blow up but it don't get cold.
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Got a package in the mail yesterday from a forum member This should make driving after dark if we don't get back a little safer.

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Still have one set left if anyone wants them
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Hope you don't mind Tom, i borrowed your photos for my thread, but gave you full credit.
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No problem at all, I hope somebody buys that other set because I'm itching to buy the other pair for my bumper.
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No problem at all, I hope somebody buys that other set because I'm itching to buy the other pair for my bumper.
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Less than a week until we leave now and things are coming together.

Trailer will be finished tomorrow. It has new axle, wheels, tires and a 3 axis hitch. Awning mount goes on this week after tent is fitted.



Unfortunately FedEx damaged my first tent but another is on the way and should arrive Wednesday. Can't pack until that tent is installed.

Jeep is set now, oil change on Monday so it will be ready to put some miles on it. Hitch mounted jerry can design should be completed on Monday and off to paint.



Utah national parks should be open it looks like now too and weather looks great.
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Rig is looking sharp! Hope these government a$$holes don't screw up your trip. Most trails are outside the parks but still.

If possible, try to keep the tounge weight down, that way, if you get to a super sharp switchback, you can uncouple it and rotate the trailer manually.
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Oh, and one more thing....you are most definitely going to destroy your front plate out there in Moab with it being that low.
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Front plate gets removed as soon as we are out of NYS, we'll just carry it along

2 days away from leaving and we are cutting it down to the wire. Tent got delayed a day and arrives this afternoon so I'll get it mounted tonight. Hitch and Awning Mounts should be here Friday night so we'll install and test everything before leaving on Sat.

Went through every nut and bolt on the Jeep and trailer, everything is tightened and marked for quick reference. Camping tubs are packed, list is getting checked off.

Picked up this sweet item yesterday off of craigslist so now yes, we are towing a Holiday in between the tent, kitchen, awning and mesh room!



I am officially carrying everything including the kitchen sink...the beauty of having a trailer.

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Front plate gets removed as soon as we are out of NYS, we'll just carry it along

2 days away from leaving and we are cutting it down to the wire. Tent got delayed a day and arrives this afternoon so I'll get it mounted tonight. Hitch and Awning Mounts should be here Friday night so we'll install and test everything before leaving on Sat.

Went through every nut and bolt on the Jeep and trailer, everything is tightened and marked for quick reference. Camping tubs are packed, list is getting checked off.

Picked up this sweet item yesterday off of craigslist so now yes, we are towing a Holiday in between the tent, kitchen, awning and mesh room!



I am officially carrying everything including the kitchen sink...the beauty of having a trailer.

Wow that thing is badass. How compactly does it fold up? This should be one hell of a trip! Make sure you take pics of everything and post up a thread when you get back!
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It folds up to about 42" X 20" x 10" and weighs about 50 lbs. Without a trailer not sure you would want to bring this along. But it will serve us well as a table, cook center and catch all for camp life.

My Autocross buddy is loaning me his GoPro and mounts for the trip so hopefully we will get some good videos to go along with the photos. Just thinking of the different places to mount it on the Jeep and trailer to get some great shots.
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It folds up to about 42" X 20" x 10" and weighs about 50 lbs. Without a trailer not sure you would want to bring this along. But it will serve us well as a table, cook center and catch all for camp life.

My Autocross buddy is loaning me his GoPro and mounts for the trip so hopefully we will get some good videos to go along with the photos. Just thinking of the different places to mount it on the Jeep and trailer to get some great shots.
I guess I could rock that with a roof rack if necessary. As for the gopro, down low for wheeling shots, and up high for scenery shots. Sometimes, it makes for awesome shots if you walk the trail, set up the camera, walk back, and drive past it...looks especially awesome if you can get the camera up high (to the top of switchbacks) or after an obstacle looking back. Don't forget your iphone...it makes for awesome videos as well, and is easier to use for casual filming than the gopro. I use both. Just make sure to unload your iphone before you leave, so that you have maximum memory free. For casual shots and vids, I love the iphone. If you have a 4S or later, the video quality is superb. Don't forget, if there is anything you need, just holler from the road.
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Garage is cleaned out for when you need to store it there.
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I guess I could rock that with a roof rack if necessary. As for the gopro, down low for wheeling shots, and up high for scenery shots. Sometimes, it makes for awesome shots if you walk the trail, set up the camera, walk back, and drive past it...looks especially awesome if you can get the camera up high (to the top of switchbacks) or after an obstacle looking back. Don't forget your iphone...it makes for awesome videos as well, and is easier to use for casual filming than the gopro. I use both. Just make sure to unload your iphone before you leave, so that you have maximum memory free. For casual shots and vids, I love the iphone. If you have a 4S or later, the video quality is superb. Don't forget, if there is anything you need, just holler from the road.
Thanks for the camera tips, those will come in handy. Don't worry about a roof rack, just pick up my trailer on your next trip west



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Appreciate the help! You'll have to show us a great local restaurant so we can buy you dinner.

Tent #2 arrived safely this afternoon. Time to get her mounted tonight and get the trailer packed.

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Appreciate the help! You'll have to show us a great local restaurant so we can buy you dinner.

Tent #2 arrived safely this afternoon. Time to get her mounted tonight and get the trailer packed.

Thanks man, that is a really generous offer. I might have to take you up on that.

Back to you...what's your plan for refrigeration? Going with coolers full of ice? Honestly, at this time of year, a cooler with a block of ice should last 2-3 days. In the summer, I was getting 2 days out of my blocks with daily swaps of cubed ice.
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Thanks man, that is a really generous offer. I might have to take you up on that.

Back to you...what's your plan for refrigeration? Going with coolers full of ice? Honestly, at this time of year, a cooler with a block of ice should last 2-3 days. In the summer, I was getting 2 days out of my blocks with daily swaps of cubed ice.
Anytime, hopefully we get to roll together sometime. Lots of great stuff to see on the east coast too.

For coolers we are hauling 2 definitely and possibly a 3rd. One is a coleman extreme and will be packed with frozen meat. Venison, sausage, burger, steaks, BACON etc. Plan to only go in that when absolutely needed. All meat double packed in gallon ziplock bags to ensure it doesn't leak if it thaws.

Cooler #2 is a 12v refrigerator/cooler. It will hold refrigerated groceries and drinking water. Plan to do ice packs and only use 12v if necessary.

May throw in a 3rd cooler if we pack and have room. Nights will be cool so we may not need refrigeration for drinks as bad as summertime although we will stay hydrated.

We have 4 water containers, 2 six gallon drinkable, 2 five gallon potable for showers, etc. Also have a back up water purifier if needed. Plan on getting some flats if we are short on cooler space and just refill bottles.

Got the tent mounted, painting some final brackets for awning and putting the mesh in the plastidip grill tonight.
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Anytime, hopefully we get to roll together sometime. Lots of great stuff to see on the east coast too.

For coolers we are hauling 2 definitely and possibly a 3rd. One is a coleman extreme and will be packed with frozen meat. Venison, sausage, burger, steaks, BACON etc. Plan to only go in that when absolutely needed. All meat double packed in gallon ziplock bags to ensure it doesn't leak if it thaws.

Cooler #2 is a 12v refrigerator/cooler. It will hold refrigerated groceries and drinking water. Plan to do ice packs and only use 12v if necessary.

May throw in a 3rd cooler if we pack and have room. Nights will be cool so we may not need refrigeration for drinks as bad as summertime although we will stay hydrated.

We have 4 water containers, 2 six gallon drinkable, 2 five gallon potable for showers, etc. Also have a back up water purifier if needed. Plan on getting some flats if we are short on cooler space and just refill bottles.

Got the tent mounted, painting some final brackets for awning and putting the mesh in the plastidip grill tonight.
Awesome. Definitely would love to wheel somewhere on the east side (although I cant find anything other than the ghost trains of maine) so we will definitely do a trip. Sounds like you are prepared for a minor apocalypse, which is good.
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what is the name of that little camp kitchen set up...? is it a coleman product?

Looks like a great trip in the making.

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