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Old 09-22-2007, 10:09 PM   #1
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My 1st Long Trail Ride: Mud and a Broken Jeep

Well I took my first long trail ride on a trail called Tolmantown Road in Upstate NY. It is a nice old logging road with a couple pretty hairy rocky places and some pretty crazy mud puddles.

Well I made it through the difficult rock areas ok and tried to go through a big mud puddle that ended up being a little deeper than I thought. So, I got stuck in mud up to the bottom of the doors, with all of my 33" tires barried. The guy I was riding with tried to pull me out and we broke my new tow strap. Eventually I was able to winch myself out, but then the clutch pedal was dead (would'nt come out all the way and doesn't work to put the jeep in gear) and the jeep wouldn't start (the starter doesn't turn over at all).

So the guy towed me the 2+ miles out of the trail and we managed to break his 10,000 lbs tow strap as well. Fortunately we were past the hard parts on the trail.

Even though I may have done some significant damage to my jeep, it was a fun time, and I'll definitely try it again.... if my jeep ever works again. I'll post some pictures as soon as I am able to get them.

Any ideas on how to fix my problems? (well... the jeep's problems)

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Old 09-22-2007, 10:31 PM   #2
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Most likey you have lots of mud, dry now in the starter and clutch. Power wash/hose what ever you can get to get lots of water on the underside of jeep near starter and tranny See if that helps. You should see rivers of mud flowing out from the jeep.. Once its running clear let it drain for a while. Then try to start it. You can take the starter off and clean it up as well. The clutch is another story, you can try to unbolt the cover plate and get some limited access up there. But you may have to take it to a shop. also you will want to drain the tranny, t-case, and diffs.. as they most likey have water in them.

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Old 09-22-2007, 11:13 PM   #3
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Most likey you have lots of mud, dry now in the starter and clutch. Power wash/hose what ever you can get to get lots of water on the underside of jeep near starter and tranny See if that helps. You should see rivers of mud flowing out from the jeep.. Once its running clear let it drain for a while. Then try to start it. You can take the starter off and clean it up as well. The clutch is another story, you can try to unbolt the cover plate and get some limited access up there. But you may have to take it to a shop. also you will want to drain the tranny, t-case, and diffs.. as they most likey have water in them.
Thanks for the advice. Would it be a problem to let it sit for a few days, maybe a week before I try to do this? I am really busy basically until next weekend.

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Where about in NY?? Im in Wallkill
It is in Mayfield NY, about an hour or so north of Albany.

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set a water sprinkler under it.
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set a water sprinkler under it.
I wish I could even do that... I had to leave it at my parents house which is about a half hour away. I'm either going to have to take a trip one night this week or wait until the weekend... full time work and grad school sucks
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Thanks for the advice. Would it be a problem to let it sit for a few days, maybe a week before I try to do this? I am really busy basically until next weekend..

Should not make it worse by letting it sit. Just might take longer to blast it out of there if its really dryed on. Keep us posted on what happens.
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Pictures

Well I finally got the pictures. There were a bunch of rocks and hills earlier, but we had lots of time to take pics while I was stuck.... Check pictures 40 and 41 specifically (can someone post them on this page? I couldn't)

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Old 10-09-2007, 12:38 PM   #10
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Nice pics, where in NY?
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Nice pics, where in NY?
Tolmantown Road, Mayfield NY. It is about an hour north west of Albany
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:21 PM   #12
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Cool...looks like you had fun!
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Running, but not yet working

Ok, so I replaced the starter and now she is running again. Now I am still having clutch problems as the clutch pedal doesn't come all the way up and the jeep does not move when "in gear". I think this means that I burned the clutch and will need to replace it. Does this sound about right? When I press the pedal I can hear sort of a spinning rubbing noise that I interpret to be the clutch slipping.

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