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Old 02-15-2013, 09:05 PM   #6931
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Dave, what's going on dude, long time no see , hey I have tires for sale if you need it , 35x12.5x17 bf KM1 mt
Yeah, it's been a long tine since I've seen much of anything other than the inside of my office and the backs of my eyelids.

Where did you hide away a set of the original KM in 35 inch?

That might be a bridge too far. I'm still trying to convince my wife we need new wheels...I'd need to renegotiate tire size too!

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Old 02-15-2013, 09:53 PM   #6932
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Yeah, it's been a long tine since I've seen much of anything other than the inside of my office and the backs of my eyelids.

Where did you hide away a set of the original KM in 35 inch?

That might be a bridge too far. I'm still trying to convince my wife we need new wheels...I'd need to renegotiate tire size too!
I hear that, remember DTD offers a $50 discount to all WF members when you purchase a set of five wheels. Ya know, so when you convince the better half.

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Old 02-17-2013, 09:13 AM   #6933
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The trick is balance - we look hard at the bottom line on purchases like this because, as much as we love our Jeeps, they are discretionary. The starting point for comparison is what it would cost to shod the stock wheels with new 33" rubber.

The 285/70R17 clears for a lot of folks and the 255/80R17 from BFG would work without doubt. So, that puts me at around 1330 for a set of 5 Duratrac, 1145 for a set of 5 KM2, or <gasp> 1405 for the GY MT/R on my stock 17 wheels.

Now, the trouble comes with the topic of wheels. Even if I get a good deal and pay 100 a wheel that's 450 after the rebate. To be cost competitive, I'm now trying to find the unfindable - a set of 5 tires for less than a grand (or to go head on with the KM2, for less than <eep> ~700).

Sure, you can make the case that subsequent tire purchases over the life of the Jeep will more than pay for the initial wheel investment - however, that doesn't balance the check book in the short term and there are always competing demands. The justification then becomes the relative opportunity cost of what the short term "investment" capital is used for - wheels or something else.

Interestingly, the wheels do sort of pay for themselves at 15 inches if we go with the assumption that a 35 inch tire is where it's at. Granted the choices are fewer, but you're now down to 215-230 a tire (35x12.5R15) as opposed to 330-370 dollars per tire on 17 inch wheels + the 200 bucks in spacers you'd need to run them. If we assume 100 bucks per tire + the 200 we have a 700 dollar fund for wheels and we get wheels of the proper width and backspacing to start with.

That's not to say 35s are cheap, but the wheel change up does make sense. It saves weight too, which will help performance.

Speaking on weight and performance - I actually looked at the Interco LTB: 34x10.5R17. I did some reading and it'll likely clear on the stock wheels without spacers or stops. Of course it only weighs 58 lbs per tire, which is actually pretty good for a 17 inch wheel, especially considering the size. Hell, a Toyo Open Country M/T weighs 70 lbs for a 33" tire - 12 lbs less and an inch larger GtG. If you can find them for 250-260 bucks they're sort of in line with the prices above as well. The only problem is that it would be a misery to drive on the road and bias-ply tires tend to be quirky.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:08 AM   #6934
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Interco LTB

I would steer away from the LTB's if you are going to drive on the road much at all. I had them back in the 90's on a very light 4 cyl TJ up in New York and while they are mean looking and awesome in the mud, they completely suck on the road! So much so that I ended up buying another set of AT's and swapping them back and forth when I was going wheeling.

The LTB's are very tough to balance, super heavy, flatten out overnight so your first few miles are like Fred Flinstone, loud, and when the asphalt is really hot it will melt the tire and chunks will start flying off!
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:29 AM   #6935
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I agree, I have them on my Tj 33s, almost ran out of room on my wheel with wheel weights. As good as they are in mud, there not that great anywhere else. My street tires did just as good in Uwharrie.
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Old 02-17-2013, 12:43 PM   #6936
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Anyone on here skate, I want to check out some local skate Parks?
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:35 PM   #6937
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Drew, you going 35 or 37? I know someone selling 35 , which kit you end up order from teraflex?

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I have 35s ready to go on, went with DuraTracs since I drive 90 miles a day. Just waiting on weather and a free day to do the lift. Suspension is the 2.5" TeraFlex coil lift with Fox shocks and an extra 1" TF spacer up front to offset the bumper and winch.
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:42 AM   #6938
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Hey Guys - I've decided to sell. I have it posted here on the forum as well as on Craigslist. Let me know if you're interested, or if you know someone else who is, send them my way. Thanks!
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:29 PM   #6939
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Jason, et al,

Oh, I hear you...I know the LTB is a performance oriented choice...not so much a sensible one. Still, makes me wish someone else would do a similarly sized tire - other than BFG there isn't really much to choose from in the area of 33-34" tires 10-10.5 inches wide on a 17 inch wheel - heck, they're rare enough on a 15 inch wheel.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:56 AM   #6940
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Anyone up for some wheeling Saturday?!
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:59 AM   #6941
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Anyone up for some wheeling Saturday?!
You bet I am!
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:09 AM   #6942
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Awesome! I'm thinking rock. Maybe tw
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:39 AM   #6943
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Ill probably come out on saturday too.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:04 PM   #6944
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Anyone up for some wheeling Saturday?!
Sunday would be better for me. Any takers?
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:14 PM   #6945
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Hey Guys - I've decided to sell. I have it posted here on the forum as well as on Craigslist. Let me know if you're interested, or if you know someone else who is, send them my way. Thanks!
Hey Brian, are you getting another one?
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:02 PM   #6946
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I'm suppose to work on my Jeep and Forrest Jeep Sunday. I have a friend coming in town Saturday that I promised a wheeling session
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:13 PM   #6947
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I'm suppose to work on my Jeep and Forrest Jeep Sunday. I have a friend coming in town Saturday that I promised a wheeling session
My Jeep gets no love... I need to get my diff covers painted and put on. And hopefully I can get my control arm bushings on before this weekend if they come in on time.

I'll go wheeling this weekend too!
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:19 PM   #6948
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I thought you were helping too! Remember ...my gas tank...we can do the covers! Gear oil everywhere q
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:26 PM   #6949
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I thought you were helping too! Remember ...my gas tank...we can do the covers! Gear oil everywhere q
Only bad part is I'm not 100% what lockers are in it so I'm not sure what gear oil it needs. Would have to pull the covers, see what it has, then go get oil and come back. Would that work?
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:27 PM   #6950
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Yeah man. Advanced is right down the skreet
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:31 PM   #6951
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Cool, don't think it'll be a problem. After a quick search people are all using 75w-90 regardless of lockers or gears. Prob pick up some mobil 1 or amsoil before heading your way.
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:41 PM   #6952
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OK sounds good. We are starting at 8, but of course you don't have to be there that early
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:44 PM   #6953
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Lol I'll try but after my typical Saturday night shenanigans, who knows when I'll get there haha.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:12 PM   #6954
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Hey Brian, are you getting another one?
I'm thinking about it. Not sure quite yet. I need something better on gas to and from work. I have really enjoyed the Jeep, just haven't taken the time to get it off road enough to truly enjoy it. If I don't get a new one right away, I'll be sure to get another in the future.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:31 PM   #6955
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Figured I would check with you guys here first as I had talked to some about these lights.
I have a new set (Maybe 2 depending on what I decide to use them for) of the Dually 2x2 LED spot lights. I was going to use them as an extra set on the bumper and rear to match my windshield set but don't want to go that way. (Impulse buy)
If anyone is interested let me know. Was thinking $140 for the set? Could throw in switch pak for another 10 if needed.
I am hopefully in this weekend but not sure which day yet...
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:07 PM   #6956
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Mike, are they the flood or spot light style?
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:52 AM   #6958
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Been doing ALOT of reasearch about the blower, tuning options, and reliability, and I've pretty much decided on what to do about it. Unless someone is willing to pay what I want for it, I will keep it, gather the parts needed for the install and tune, and have a supercharged XJ .

I'm going to address weak spots in the truck now, fixing the front suspension, checking and replacing u-joints, inspecting axles, and probably throwing a new torque converter or whole new transmission in it, as mine slips when cold, and probably will when throwing 50 more ponies through it lol. Also need to fix all the oil leaks and replace the leaking exhaust manifold.

It will probably be a while before it's all said and done, but I would really like to see this thing in action. So if anyone else is in for some late nights working on the rig, I'll be ready to start the attack in the coming months.
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I will keep it, gather the parts needed for the install and tune, and have a supercharged XJ .
Good decision, you still owe me a ride on sc xj! Justin what time you thinking to go wheeling on saturday?
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Gonna be selling the brand new set of (5) 305/70/16 Goodyear Duratracs I have this weekend unless any here needs them. I've got a buyer coming Saturday, let me know if you want them instead.

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