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Old 04-05-2013, 07:40 PM   #31
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Yet again you amaze me with you handie work!!! Nice stuff...
Thanks! Glad you like it. But actually the tonneau cover is one part of this project that won't be my work... it's being made by one of the leading truck tonneau manufacturers specifically for this tub kit .

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I love this! I would buy a kit in a second. Keep us updated on manufacture.

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Can't wait to see it out.
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:44 AM   #34
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I love this! I would buy a kit in a second. Keep us updated on manufacture.
Thanks!

Hopefully it will be available sometime this summer. First I've got to finish up to construction of the prototype, then I've got to finalize the arrangements with a company (that's pretty close), deliver the mold masters to the company, and then they'll have to make their production molds. But all of that should go fairly quickly.

I'm back from my trip to Easter Jeep Safari in Moab, so now I'll get back to work on this project; this week I'll get the tub all bolted together, and I'll pick up a Harbor Freight frame and modify it to 40.5" x 6" to fit the tub. More posts/pictures to come...
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I've collected all of the parts to build a "TSC" 3-Axis coupler for the military trailer. The photo below shows a completed coupler, and pretty much all of the parts needed to build a second one.



The "TSC" 3-Axis coupler is so-named because just about all of the parts can be obtained from Tractor Supply or a similar store; parts typically can be purchased for under $50. All that's required to build one is some metal cutting, grinding and drilling (an angle grinder with a cutoff disc or a hacksaw would be fine), a welder and a little welding skill.

Here are the plans:



And here's a project thread showing most of the construction details: Under $50 DIY 3-axis coupler
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Love your fiberglass work. BUT your work is to nice to be putting a trailer frame from Harbor Freight. Take it to the next step. Very nice work Sir!
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nothing wrong with HF trailers, especially properly reinforced.
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Love your fiberglass work. BUT your work is to nice to be putting a trailer frame from Harbor Freight. Take it to the next step. Very nice work Sir!
Thank you. There's a reason I'm putting it on an HF frame - I'm building this as a proof-of-concept prototype, and one of the things to prove is that you can build a very successful trailer on a tight budget. The HF frames are very affordable, and, as myquite states:

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nothing wrong with HF trailers, especially properly reinforced.
Check post 26 of this thread... I showed the reinforced HF frame I made for my proof-of-concept 4' Jeep-tub trailer; it's got a backbone running from tongue to rear cross member, and receivers front and back for mounting different couplers on the front and accessories on the back. It's also running 31" tires on Jeep Moab wheels on the original axle. It's a very sturdy frame, and I'll do a similar conversion on an HF frame into the size needed for the military tub. I'll be posting plans for that conversion, and I've already posted plans for the 4' conversion: Building a stronger 4'x4' frame out of a 4'x8' Harbor Freight frame



BTW when I built my first Jeep-tub trailer, it was just for my own use, so I build a custom frame for it. Here's the trailer:



And here's the frame. This one also is running Jeep wheels/tires, it's got a 3500 lb. capacity axle and frame, and a Wrangler rear crossmember so I can mount Wrangler bumpers on it (I mounted YJ bumperettes):



I designed that trailer to be my "parts getter", I've carried things as large and as heavy as a Wranger tub on it...

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This morning I'm working on assembling the prototype tub, here are a few photos of the first boltup:



There are more photos in the main build thread in the Trailer Adventuring Forum later today: Fiberglass M416/M100 Military-style Trailer Tub Kit, I'll also be posting some photos of the assembly detail in that thread later today.
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Old 04-08-2013, 05:06 PM   #40
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Here are some of photos of the bolted-together tub, with tailgate. I still haven't washed the mold release/clay off the parts, so they look a little green and dirty but don't mind that, everything will clean up very nicely.







Tomorrow I'm off to Harbor Freight to pick up the trailer frame, and I plan to get the frame modified and assembled this week, so by the end of the week I'll be posting photos of the tub sitting on the frame.

There are more photos, including assembly detail photos, in the main build thread on the Trailer Adventuring Forum:
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:34 PM   #41
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Gosh this is something that I have been looking for! I gotta watch this one!

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I'm working now on modifying/reinforcing a Harbor Freight frame - I'm converting it from 4x8 to 40.5"x72", and adding strength and a few features in the process.



Should have it up on its wheels in a day or two.
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BTW here's the work in progress this morning, the 40.5" x 72" base frame is done and bolted together; the tongue triangle and the full-length backbone parts are just setting in place for now. So far everything is going according to plan, this is going to result in a very nice frame for the military tub.



More to come.
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how much can I buy the tub for? Very nice job!!!
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:45 PM   #46
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how much can I buy the tub for? Very nice job!!!
Thank you. This is still in the prototype stage, but a licensing arrangement with a company is in the works. Pricing will be up to them of course, but I can tell you that the tub is simpler than my previous Jeep-tub trailer kit - this one is 4 fiberglass parts, and the Jeep-tub kit consists of 6 fiberglass parts...

The Jeep-tub trailer kit, which I also licensed to a company to market, and its pricing can be found at Dinoot Trailers - Dinoot Jeep Trailers
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:50 AM   #47
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I finished up the modifications to a Harbor Freight frame to make it the proper size (40.5" x 72") for the military tub.







The wheels are Jeep Wrangler steel wheels, 235/75-15 tires. The axle is the stock Harbor Freight axle, although I moved the spring seats inboard to accommodate the narrower frame.

The coupler in the front receiver is a "TSC 3-Axis".

The jack is just clamped on for the moment; it's a weld-on jack but I have a plan to turn it into a bolt-on.
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Very nice!!!!
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Some photos of the tub on the frame. Don't mind the wooden blocks holding the fender on top of the tire .







There are more photos in the main build thread in the Traielr Adventuring Forum: Fiberglass M416/M100 Military-style Trailer Tub Kit
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:36 PM   #50
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For comparison... the M72 prototype and a Dinoot Compact side by side...

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Detailed plans, instructions and photos for converting a Harbor Freight 94564 1720-lb. capacity frame from 4x8 to the 40.5" x 72" necessary for mounting this fiberglass tub start at this post in the main build thread on the Trailer Adventuring Forum: Fiberglass M416/M100 Military-style Trailer Tub Kit

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If I didn't have an original Bantam I'd be after one of these in a heartbeat. Very impressive! Thanks for the photos and tech updates.

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I installed a pair of 245/75-16 tires on Jeep Moab alloy wheels - these are roughly equivalent to 31x10.50's. To do it I had to install 1.5" spacers, because the center hole in the Jeep alloy wheels is too small for trailer hubs.



Clearance to the nearest bolt head on the frame is about 2.75", so plenty of room for even larger/wider tires .



Of course the problem is that original M416 fenders, which are 9.75" wide, don't cover this size tire. This is a very common problem with stock M416's/M100's as well, people like to put two-vehicle-sized tires on them, and they pretty much always stick out from the stock M416 fenders.



It'll take about a 13" wide fender to fully cover this size tire. I've got at least three fender solutions, stay tuned...
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I don't know what to say, it looks like you like to burn the night oil or you get up super early....

Doesn't matter but once again awesome work :-)
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I was looking on ebay for an old M100 and stumbled on to this site. This has changed my plans. I now want one of these. Never thought a HF trailer could play such a important roll.
Does the finished product tilt? Everything looks very good. Thank you for all your detailed instructions and you sharing your trailer dreams with us. I will own one of these one day.
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I don't know what to say, it looks like you like to burn the night oil or you get up super early....

Doesn't matter but once again awesome work :-)
Thanks!

Hey this started out as a leisurely hobby project, but now there's a company waiting for it so they can bring it to market, so I've got to get it done as soon as I can .
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I was looking on ebay for an old M100 and stumbled on to this site. This has changed my plans. I now want one of these. Never thought a HF trailer could play such a important roll.
Does the finished product tilt? Everything looks very good. Thank you for all your detailed instructions and you sharing your trailer dreams with us. I will own one of these one day.
Thank you.

If you mean does the tongue section hinge so the rear of the trailer can tilt down, yes, you could build the HF trailer that way, which would be a pretty much stock HF build except for changing the size of the main rectangle from 4x8 to 40.5" x 72". I didn't build the prototype to tilt, instead I used the leftover parts from making it smaller to build the center backbone of the trailer. The backbone make it stronger, but also eliminates the tilt feature. But you could do it either way.
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One solution to wider fenders would be these 13" wide round fenders, which are pretty close to the original M100 fenders (except wider). These are 36" radius, so they'd fit almost any size tire that one might want to put on the trailer (well, I guess maybe not 37's ). They're about $50 per pair, so I plan to pick up a pair to try.

In this pair of photos I think you can see the difference in width between the stock M100 fenders and these 13" ones:

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I also plan wider versions of M416 fenders. They'd be the same size and shape as the original M416 fenders, except about 13" wide instead of 9.75".

Here's a cardboard mockup:





The local place where I get metal doesn't have any sheet metal on hand of the size and thickness that I need to make these, they say they'll have some Tuesday, so I'll start making these fenders then.

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Another potential solution to the fender problem...

It's really tempting to paint the trailer red to match my Retro Wrangler pickup... I could install a pair of matching fiberglass Retro Wrangler fenders, put a Jeep logo tailgate on, I've already got matching Jeep Moab alloy wheels on the trailer, I wouldn't have to paint the frame...



But I don't think I'll give in to the temptation... I'll proceed with the military paint scheme I've planned all along, and I'll install military-styled fenders.

And anyway I could always mold up another one if I really wanted to make one to match the Retro Wrangler .

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