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Old 06-29-2013, 04:16 PM   #211
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I got the tent installed today...






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Old 06-29-2013, 04:16 PM   #212
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The cover can be opened with the tent deployed:




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Old 06-29-2013, 04:17 PM   #213
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Tent stowed:



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Old 07-01-2013, 07:24 PM   #214
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Jeff, would the trailer w/o the tailgate have two plain ends or would the rear look a if its a tailgate?
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:49 PM   #215
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Jeff, would the trailer w/o the tailgate have two plain ends or would the rear look a if its a tailgate?
The tailgate end panel and the plain end panel are interchangeable, so if you use two plain end panels, the back of your tub would look like the front of my prototype, here's a photo of the front as I was painting it:



So you can build with any combination of tailgate and plain end panels:

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Old 07-01-2013, 08:55 PM   #216
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Hmm, looks kinda plain. Wish there was a rear panel that had a faux tailgate. Looks like I'll have to spend he extra 225.00!
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The dual tailgate option should have an extendable tongue so that if you need to pick up some lumber all you need is to slide the tongue out to lengthen the trailer to fit.
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:06 PM   #218
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One of my other trailers has tailgates on both ends. In these photos it's carrying a 16' (when collapsed) extension ladder:

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Nice but with a sliding tongue it would be safer going around a corner by not smacking a car. Power companies use this ideas for transporting power poles. They can shrink their trailer down when empty. Just a thought to help. It's what I want on my next trailer.
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Nice but with a sliding tongue it would be safer going around a corner by not smacking a car. Power companies use this ideas for transporting power poles. They can shrink their trailer down when empty. Just a thought to help. It's what I want on my next trailer.
Beauty of these trailers is you build your own. Put a sliding tongue on it if you want!
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Nice but with a sliding tongue it would be safer going around a corner by not smacking a car. Power companies use this ideas for transporting power poles. They can shrink their trailer down when empty. Just a thought to help. It's what I want on my next trailer.
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Beauty of these trailers is you build your own. Put a sliding tongue on it if you want!
Here's an idea for more than a sliding tongue - it's a reconfigurable frame which gets longer for carrying cargo on the tongue... Modular reconfigurable frame concept
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:49 PM   #222
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Well I'm listing my black trailer on eBay again: Jeep Trailer - Highway/Offroad in Trailers | eBay Motors



Late in May I listed it on eBay, and while it fell just short of the reserve price in the main auction, I sent a "Second Chance Offer" to the high bidder and he accepted and committed to buy it. He paid the required deposit immediately, but became unresponsive when I tried to contact him to get him to pay the final balance. He still has not responded. So it's up for auction again.

In 3 weeks time, I'm starting on a trip to Colorado, so if anyone between upstate New York and Denver is interested in bidding on the trailer, I'd be able to deliver the trailer for no charge anywhere on my route between here and there.

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Old 07-08-2013, 10:58 PM   #223
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Hi Jeff... have you strength tested the side panels with having both a front and rear tailgate?

I'm thinking that I could use the trailer to transport my harley if both ends are open but am worried that having both ends open may decrease the max weight I could put on a rack put on the sides.
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Hi Jeff... have you strength tested the side panels with having both a front and rear tailgate?

I'm thinking that I could use the trailer to transport my harley if both ends are open but am worried that having both ends open may decrease the max weight I could put on a rack put on the sides.
I've done "gorilla testing" by putting a 225-lb. gorilla on the fender to make sure the side panel doesn't deflect at all and the tailgate panel doesn't flex...



And I've done gorilla tests on the cover:



But since I've only built the one configuration so far, so no, I haven't tested a tub with tailgates front and rear. The way I've designed the reinforcements in the tailgate panel, the tailgate panels are strong enough so it wouldn't be a problem though. It may be that the company that's licensed the design may reinforce the production parts differently than I did the prototype, but they understand the strength requirements, so I don't think it will be a problem in any case.

And if you wanted to add extra reinforcement to the tailgate panels to make them even stronger, it would be pretty straightforward to do with either some steel angle or some steel tubing. The reinforcements would go on the inside of the panels and tie directly to the main trailer frame, so you wouldn't see them from the outside. I could show how one would add those reinforcements would be done if you'd like.
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Jeff, if you could, that would be awesome. I was trying to figure out how to reinforce the tailgates for the weight of the motorcycle... and am no engineer. I am about to start the build on the HF trailer and contacted Dinoot about getting a kit when available. Thank you for all your work and the sharing of information.

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Jeff, if you could, that would be awesome. I was trying to figure out how to reinforce the tailgates for the weight of the motorcycle... and am no engineer. I am about to start the build on the HF trailer and contacted Dinoot about getting a kit when available. Thank you for all your work and the sharing of information.

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Matt,

If I needed the tailgate panel to be stronger than it already is, here's how I'd do it. I think the drawing explains it pretty well:



Depending on how much strength you wanted to add, you could use smaller or larger square tubing or steel angle.

Here's a photo of the prototype tub during test assembly, and on the right I've drawn in the extra reinforcement in shades of orange.



I do think that for almost all uses of the tub kit, the built-in reinforcement in the tailgate panel as it comes from the factory will be more than adequate, but for extreme duty, what's shown above would be a fairly simple and straightforward way to add more strength if someone thought it was necessary.
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:54 PM   #227
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Jeff,

I really appreciate the information and am excited to start the build.

I owe you a cold beverage or two next time you get to Vegas.

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Jeff,

I really appreciate the information and am excited to start the build.

I owe you a cold beverage or two next time you get to Vegas.

Matt
Matt,

Glad you found the info helpful, as your build plans progress let me know if you've got any other questions.

And be careful what you promise, I get to Las Vegas every year for the SEMA Show in October/November. And be aware that I'd expect to see a build underway if we met out there .

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It's a deal... I'll show you my progress on the build along with a beverage or two... just hope that Dinoot has the tubs available by then.
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:25 PM   #230
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any updates on manufacture?
As far as I know the company I licensed the trailer kit to is still on track for a late summer release.
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As far as I know the company I licensed the trailer kit to is still on track for a late summer release.
Slight correction: I just got word that they're a few weeks behind plan because the fiberglass shop has been backed up, maybe they've got lots of orders for the Jeep-tub trailer to fulfill.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:35 AM   #234
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I've been looking for information about a trailer build lately. I've missed my trailer since arriving in Europe with the US Army. I've now sat reading this thread from start to finish for the past hour. It is exactly what I wanted. It, and the included threads answered all of my questions and gave me lots of great ideas for what I want. I just have to let the mental dust settle to figure out exactly what I am going to do.

Thank you so very much for the time you took with this thread and the others! You have quite a few talents and a great imagination. It is refreshing to see someone with these gifts who is willing to share so freely.

The only mod I didn't see you use on this project, I saw that you used on a previous one. I just replaced my stock JK fenders with Bushwackers and thought I might use the old fenders on a trailer. It appears they aren't wide enough and that's why you went with custom fenders.

Thank you again for all of the time and work you put into the Jeep community!

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Just checked Harbor Freight. This month's super coupon is 20% off one item. That makes the 1720# capacity trailer $288 with shipping. Guess what I'm ordering? Looking for the additional receiver pieces and racks you have on the front. Thanks again!
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Old 08-02-2013, 08:02 AM   #236
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...The only mod I didn't see you use on this project, I saw that you used on a previous one. I just replaced my stock JK fenders with Bushwackers and thought I might use the old fenders on a trailer. It appears they aren't wide enough and that's why you went with custom fenders.
JK rear flares won't be wide enough for use on the military trailer because the wheels don't sit inside inner fenders just like on the Jeep - they're completely outboard of the side panels. You'll need fenders that are at least as wide as your tires, plus about 2" for tire-to-tub clearance.

If you're planning to run the same size wheels and tires on your military trailer build as you are on your JK, you'll likely need fenders that are 12-13" wide, depending on your wheel/tire size.

During the course of the project, I played with a number of different width and shape fenders, some of them are shown below - left to right, original NOS 9.5"-wide M416 fenders, custom 13"-wide M416-style fenders I made up, and 13"-wide round M100-style fenders.

Lots of different styles and widths of fenders are available out there, I'm sure you'll be able to find something you like.

To fully cover 32" tires to match my Jeep, and since I wanted to retain as much of the original M416 look as possible, I made up 13"-wide M416-style fenders. But you could also pick up a set of 13"-wide M100-style round fenders for another original look, they're available for $52.30 a pair here: FENDER, SINGLE AXLE 13x36x20" H 1in.RAD 16GA PAIR - Single Axle Fenders - Trailer Body Components

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Can you say what company you licensed it to? I'm very interested in this and would love to preorder one if at all possible
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Can you say what company you licensed it to? I'm very interested in this and would love to preorder one if at all possible
It's the same company I licensed my Jeep-tub trailer design to: Dinoot Trailers - Dinoot Jeep Trailers - Dinoot Trailers.

I'm not sure if they're doing pre-orders at this point, but the say you can email them to receive updates: scott@dinoot.com
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Old 08-12-2013, 04:36 PM   #239
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Now that I'm back from my Florida and Colorado trips, and I've sold the black trailer, I finally got around to getting the trailer registered and inspected, so now it's legal on the road.



I decided to run it with the Jeep-matching wheels and tires and wide M416-style fenders for a while, so I swapped them on and that's what you see in the photo.

I "made the rounds" around town with it today, stopping at the places that always help me with parts of my projects - Elmira Auto Paint (paint and bodywork supplies and advice), Manchester Body Shop (painting advice), Cedar Street Manufacturing (metal and occasional use of their large shears and bending brakes)... all of them contributed in some way or another to the M72 project, and they always appreciate seeing the end results. That's a nice thing about living in a small town, everyone's willing to take the time to give advice and help, and they seem to like it when I take the finished projects around to them so they can see how their advice and supplies contributed to the project.

While I was at the metal shop, I scrounged enough 1" angle and 1" tubing to be able to frame up a metal tailgate design I've been working on, and I also cut some 14-gauge galvanized steel strips to make new "side-to-side" hold-down straps for the jerry cans on the trailer; stay tuned for more on those projects soon.

The next trip for the trailer is to pick up a couple of 4x8 sheets for mold master making, probably get to that tomorrow or Wednesday. I usually just throw 4x8 sheets in the back of the Suburban, but it's a good opportunity to test the rack on the cover so I'll use the M72.
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