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Old 08-13-2013, 02:15 PM   #241
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Man, that looks sharp!!!!!
Thank you very much

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Old 08-14-2013, 05:25 AM   #242
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I've posted many photos of the trailer with jerry cans and a storage box on the front rack, but up until today I haven't bolted the storage box in place. The reason is that the tie-down straps for the cans have latches on the front, and the storage box gets in the way of unlatching them.



Today I solved that problem by making new straps that have the latches on the side of the can:



Now the box and cans are bolted in place, and the can locks/latches can easily be accessed from the side.



The new straps are very similar to the commercial straps they replaced. They're made from 14-gauge sheet metal, and they use the same type of latch although they aren't the latches the commercial strap came with - I swapped these latches onto the commercial straps because I wanted the straps to be adjustable so the cans could be snugged down really well.



To secure the straps to the bases, I pop-riveted a pair of footman loops to each base; these were on a Wrangler tub that's sitting in my garage. The ends of the straps have a hook bent in them to hook around the footman loop.

The strap above doesn't have a finish on it, the strap below has 22mm heat shrink tubing slid over it and shrunk tight. The heat shrink tubing is from Harbor Freight; I thought it would make a nice non-scratch covering for the straps.



I haven't decided if I'll paint them, do them both in heat shrink, or perhaps do them in something like plasti-dip.

But in any case everything is bolted down now and ready for the road.

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Looks real good.
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Old 08-14-2013, 07:55 PM   #244
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Old 08-15-2013, 03:25 PM   #245
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The M72 trailer did some actual work today... on top is a sheet of MDF and a sheet of 3/4" birch plywood. I designed the rack so that all that's needed to carry plywood is some clamps...



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Old 08-16-2013, 05:57 AM   #246
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A few people have told me they don't really like the Jeep-style tailgate on the military trailer, they said they think the trailer should have a tailgate less identifiable as Jeep, so I suggested the Dinoot smooth tailgate:



They said that one was nice, but they thought it should have a squared-off top to match the tub, rather than the angled top that the Dinoot tailgate has (which matches the top edge of a Jeep tub).

So I designed a fairly simple DIY-welding-project tailgate to demonstrate how they could get the styling they wanted...



I started fabricating one mostly out of scrap and cutoff pieces of steel had around or scrounged from the cutoff bin of my friendly local fab shop. In this next photo I've got the weatherstrip lip welded together; the top bar is just setting in place for now. Also on the workbench is a factory CJ tailgate, it's there so I can make direct comparison measurements (because the M72 tailgate opening matches the Jeep tailgate opening).



I just received a pair of tailgate cable brackets from Compact Camping for testing, they're meant to replace the getting-hard-to-find factory CJ tailgate brackets and they're pretty nice:



I'll test them on the existing tailgate on the trailer and I'll also test them on this metal tailgate.

Also in the photo are the latches I plan to use on this one, they're also from Compact Camping; the inset photo shows what they look like on the outside.



I'll be making a few changes from the original concept sketch to the attachment points for the hinges and cable brackets based on the final dimensions; I'll post an updated and dimensioned drawing after I finish fabrication.
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Progress update on the metal tailgate project.







Based on the actual dimensions (instead of the from-memory dimensions I used when I did the design drawing while on my trip), I was able to weld the nuts for the hinges directly to the bottom angle; a separate bracket wasn't necessary as shown in the original drawing. I'll probably do the same for the tailgate cable brackets, so that'll eliminate 4 parts shown in the original drawing.

Next up, the nuts for the tailgate cable brackets, then the inside 1" square tubing which provides the attachment point for the inner and outer skins.
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Old 08-16-2013, 04:30 PM   #248
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The nuts for the tailgate cables are welded in place:



I used Jeep CJ factory brackets to locate the holes/nuts accurately, using the countersunk holes in the brackets to guide the positioning. Later I'll switch these out for the Compact Camping test brackets to compare them to the factory style.

Here's roughly how the Compact Camping latches will be positioned when the outer and inner skins are in place:

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Old 08-18-2013, 04:15 PM   #249
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I finished up the tailgate frame, it's now complete and ready for skinning. I've added 1" square tubing around the inside of the steel angle, plus two vertical ribs.





The two notches you see in the outer vertical square tubes are for the Compact Camping latches, that'll make it easier to drill the latch holes through the tailgate when the skins are on:



So the next thing to do is the sheet metal inner and outer skins. The sheet metal could be welded in place, but instead of welding I plan to use automotive structural adhesive. Structural adhesive is a lot faster and easier than welding sheet metal all the way around, and it'll be more than strong enough in this application - the 1"-wide frame and the ribs will provide ample surface area for bonding. And because I'll be using adhesive, I don't necessarily have to use steel sheet metal - I could use aluminum.

Because I've used scrap metal and cutoffs from the local fab shop, my total investment in this tailgate up to this point is $10. Tomorrow I'll drop by the local fab shop to see what's in the cutoff pile that I might use for the skins.
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mighty impressive!!!!

....although I struggle with the concept "a JEEP trailer" shouldn't LOOK like "a Jeep trailer".....

yes, different strokes....etc.....

I appreciate your display of the creative process here jscherb!

If I didn't already have a Bantam, I'd be ordering one of yours for sure.
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mighty impressive!!!!

....although I struggle with the concept "a JEEP trailer" shouldn't LOOK like "a Jeep trailer".....

yes, different strokes....etc.....

I appreciate your display of the creative process here jscherb!

If I didn't already have a Bantam, I'd be ordering one of yours for sure.
Thanks .

Personally I prefer a Jeep-style tailgate on the trailer - I'm just building this metal one to show how one might build a non-Jeep-looking tailgate if that's what someone wanted, say maybe if they're pulling the trailer behind a Toyota?

But after I finish building this metal tailgate and take a few pictures, I'll be reinstalling this one:

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Old 08-19-2013, 01:22 PM   #252
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Finished up the fabrication of the metal tailgate. I bonded an aluminum skin on the outside, and on the inside an 18-gauge steel skin because I would expect the inside to take more abuse than the outside due to loads being moved over the tailgate; steel will be more ding/dent resistant than aluminum.





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Old 08-19-2013, 01:23 PM   #253
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A few more photos of the tailgate:





Now that this project is finished I can put my CJ-style tailgate back on .
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Old 08-19-2013, 02:52 PM   #254
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That came out really good.
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:28 AM   #255
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I've posted a detailed set of plan drawings, progress photos and step-by-step instructions for fabricating the metal tailgate; since it's multiple posts, I've put it in the main build thread for the fiberglass military trailier kit. The steps start here: Fiberglass M416/M100 Military-style Trailer Tub Kit





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Old 08-21-2013, 11:35 PM   #256
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Hey Jeff... that tailgate design looks great... plenty strong and a nice flush fit... thanks again for sharing all your great designs.
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Old 08-22-2013, 05:58 AM   #257
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A few photos of the new metal tailgate off the trailer.









No too much to see really, it's pretty much a plain thin box . But I think in these photos you can see how nicely the bonded skins work out. The skins are completely sealed to the frame, there's no distortion that might occur from the heat of welding (not to mention that you couldn't weld the aluminum outside skin to the steel frame anyway), and there wasn't any tedious weld grinding required.

All it would need now is a bit of finish sanding, a coat of primer and some paint to match whatever trailer it would be going on.
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Old 08-22-2013, 05:59 AM   #258
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Hey Jeff... that tailgate design looks great... plenty strong and a nice flush fit... thanks again for sharing all your great designs.
Thanks! I hope someone finds the design useful and builds one (and then posts photos of their creation for all of us to enjoy!).
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:15 AM   #259
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I put the original tailgate back on the military trailer, and just for fun I tried the metal tailgate on my Jeep-tub trailer:



It fits just fine of course, because it was built to fit a Jeep tailgate opening, but obviously the square top just doesn't look right. Building a similar metal tailgate with an angled top could easily be done, but then you'd just be building something just like the Dinoot smooth tailgate. So you might as well just buy one of those if you wanted a smooth tailgate on your Dinoot/Jeep-tub .







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Looks great!

Looks like I'll have to wait on this project. Harbor Freight can't ship anything over 150 pounds to an APO. The trailer kit is 162. Wish they could take the wheels and lights out. I didn't want them, anyhow. Ah well. Something to look forward to one day.

Thanks for sharing the tutorial, pics, etc. Very cool project.
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Nice tailgate. Love your stuff.
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Here's some food for thought, I just picked up this old thing...

I will have to get some better shots of the lock lever but it could be useful on your designs.
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Old 08-26-2013, 04:29 PM   #262
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i cannot WAIT until i can order one!

Once again thank you for taking the time and posting up your progress and mods!
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Old 08-26-2013, 04:45 PM   #263
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Glad you like it! When you get one, please start a build thread and let everyone know where the thread is!

The company I licensed the design of the military tub kit to sent an update newsletter last week, here's what they said about the kit:

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Work has been progressing on making the production mold set for the M-series tub kits.

We are on schedule and expect to pull the first pre-production test parts before the end of the month.
That should mean they'll be molding the first test parts in their production molds sometime this week.

There's a sign-up link for their newsletter at: Dinoot Jeep Trailers - Dinoot Trailers Dinoot Trailers
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Jscherb Who made your Tonneau cover and what brand is it?
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Jscherb Who made your Tonneau cover and what brand is it?
The tonneau cover is manufactured exclusively for Compact Camping (Dinoot Jeep Trailers - Dinoot Trailers Dinoot Trailers), the company that licensed the tub kit from me. It can be purchased from them, although I would guess the one for the military tub isn't on their web site yet because they haven't released the military trailer tub kit yet.



They also sell ones sized for their Jeep-tub trailer kits:



They're really high quality, weatherproof covers. They've got a clamp-on snap-track, so no drilling is necessary on the trailer tub to install it. The snap track is an exclusive design which allows the snaps to go anywhere along the track, so it's really easy to snap the cover on. The tailgate bar is easily removable, it just slips out when necessary; the bar has a weatherstrip to completely seal the top of the tailgate from the elements. Depending on the length of the particular cover, one or more snap-in bows are provided to prevent water pooling on the cover. (Sorry for the long plug, but I really like these covers ).

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These trailers look fantastic! Great work and nice write up. I've really enjoyed reading from the beginning. I'm going to check Dinoot trailers next time I'm in San Antonio.

Has anyone begin building their own trailer yet?
Post some pictures of your build.
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These trailers look fantastic! Great work and nice write up. I've really enjoyed reading from the beginning. I'm going to check Dinoot trailers next time I'm in San Antonio.

Has anyone begin building their own trailer yet?
Post some pictures of your build.
Thank you very much.

The Jeep-tub trailer kit has been in production for a bit over a year now, they've sold lots of them, it's been very popular. I've got many photos from people who have bought the kit and built it to their own requirements, I could post them if people are interested, although that's off-topic for this particular thread - I'd post them in the original thread for the Jeep-tub trailer kit if people are interested: Fiberglass Jeep-tub trailer kit

As for the military kit, what I hear from the company is that they've got production molds made and by the end of this week they were supposed to have molded the first test kit, but I haven't heard if that happened. They're shooting for release sometime this fall.

Dinoot is in the Portland, Oregon area BTW, not sure what's in San Antonio.
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Here's the first production military tub! (well, pre-production/test actually, but it was made in the company's production molds, not my molds).

Here's what the company says:

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Here is the first pre-production M-series tub kit to come out of the molds. So far everything is looking great. Will get it trimmed up and together tomorrow.
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A preproduction military tub assembled and on a modified Harbor Freight frame. Don't mind the tiny HF tires, something larger is in the plans.

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A preproduction military tub assembled and on a modified Harbor Freight frame. Don't mind the tiny HF tires, something larger is in the plans.
Would that be a tilt frame? Looks good.

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