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Old 06-18-2012, 01:12 AM   #1
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20" 22" and 24" Wheels on Jeep - Taboo or not?

Hi there, my first post, sorry to be so novice. The only question I had, while I started to read this forum about 3 hours ago was about 20" 22" and 24" rims and tires, and even then, when I have found the thread <"20" 22" and 24" Wheel and tire pics on Jeeps">, this thread was locked.

Why 22" or 24" rims not recommended? Question just in general, as I will search by myself all other posts, I saw the answer that everything above 18" on Jeep is taboo.... Is it like a technically not recommended, as re-gearing required, or it is because these Jeeps look stupid? or something else? To me, probably Ciara's Jeep is too black and too 24' rimish.. but another one, in white, I just love it. It was probably one of the attractive parts that leaded me to think about buying Jeep myself. And I am not the person who modifies cars, but Jeep.... All about Jeep starts from putting new rims and larger/wider tires, does not it?

(btw, sorry if my English is not too smooth, it is not my native)...

Should I put a few photos here to give an example of "Smoothed out bumpers fenders mirrors and painted white to match the body color. 5" lift with 37" khumo mt mud tires and custom 24" xd rockstar wheels."

Why it is wrong? Or it is not? Or this will bring MPG significantly down? or it will kill transmission... To many unknown to me that I even don't know what to ask....
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Hi there, my first post, sorry to be so novice. The only question I had, while I started to read this forum about 3 hours ago was about 20" 22" and 24" rims and tires, and even then, when I have found the thread <"20" 22" and 24" Wheel and tire pics on Jeeps">, this thread was locked.

Why 22" or 24" rims not recommended? Question just in general, as I will search by myself all other posts, I saw the answer that everything above 18" on Jeep is taboo.... Is it like a technically not recommended, as re-gearing required, or it is because these Jeeps look stupid? or something else? To me, probably Ciara's Jeep is too black and too 24' rimish.. but another one, in white, I just love it. It was probably one of the attractive parts that leaded me to think about buying Jeep myself. And I am not the person who modifies cars, but Jeep.... All about Jeep starts from putting new rims and larger/wider tires, does not it?

(btw, sorry if my English is not too smooth, it is not my native)...

Should I put a few photos here to give an example of "Smoothed out bumpers fenders mirrors and painted white to match the body color. 5" lift with 37" khumo mt mud tires and custom 24" xd rockstar wheels."

Why it is wrong? Or it is not? Or this will bring MPG significantly down? or it will kill transmission... To many unknown to me that I even don't know what to ask....
I believe to each his own, I personally dislike wheels bigger than maybe 17".
I run on 15x8, and it's better to have a smaller wheels to air down when off roading, also it looks more rugged. Just my .02

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Wow, there's a visual definition of a mall crawler for sure! It will never even see a dirt road. I certainly wouldn't be seen driving it!
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Right, all this is right, but why i need dirt.... All what i would need from Jeep is to get on the beach and drive by sand. If Jeep just built Jeep Altitude, why don't have more altitude then

I just was wondering if any technical pros against of big wheels ... King of small monster truck, why not...
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Scream mall crawler #1
Can't air down (see #1)
Harsh ride
Looks foolish IMO but each their own

That being said.... Unless you are running 40's please don't do it!!
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Personally I think that 20" rims, when done right, look acceptable and good. 37" tires (or maybe 35" tires) on some 20" rims look alright. Most people just don't like them because of their looks. The only technical issues I've read are a "harsh ride" you "can't air down" and that they aren't as good off ride as rims around 15"-17". I'd think, but I'm a bit of a novice myself, that you would be fine in just some sand and beaches, provided they were well traveled, with some 20" rims and some decent 35"-37" tires. Heck, even 33" tires look alright if done well.
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agree on everything, IHMO I have a technical college in my past (Automobile industry), and university in the same path, so i knew a lot about car design, engines, etc... and living in Germany for a few years, I loved driving above 250KM/h (or above 155 mph). Hence I don;t think that people who buying Jeep count on this car as primary transport to drive from cost to coast, or every day to work. to me it is like weekend fun, not more not less.

And my personal, as I have started to consider Jeep, and i started to look around how all Jeeps look, it seems to me that all Jeeps on small wheel look kind of ugly, and i see the tendency of Jeep owners to change wheels to larger right after they buy their Jeep. but add ing only 2" on new wheels doe not really change the look of Jeep, it still on small wheels.

Does this Jeep on the photos above look ugly or foolish?

It was probably first jeep i liked, and when i saw this Jeep in real it is a really good looking modification.

As a Mall crawler, I don;t care about this, i have pretty busy life doing water activities, jumping from airplanes, and every second day I am on the beach...

I am running 40's so I am old man then, and I have another car with good air dynamics to drive from New York City to Toronto in 3 hours (i have done it a few times, no tickets)...
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My friend will be running 20's on his CJ, but they are wrapped in 46x19.50's.


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is it not fun to see how this little duck became this nice mud crawler


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is it not fun to see how this little duck became this nice mud crawler
Nice jeep though. I mean, it doesn't matter what other people think.

Me personally, I like more rubber
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Most of the dislike comes from the bigger wheels not being functional of road. I wouldn't set up my jeep like the white one in the op but I think it looks pretty good. It's only matters what you like anyway.
As far as gearing goes the wheel diameter doesn't matter. The gears you need are determined by the overall diameter of the tire.
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Do what you like. I need my Jeep to be functional offroad so I'd go no bigger than 17. Personally, I'd be a bit embarrassed to drive a Jeep (or really any vehicle) with 20"-24" rims (or those fake HID blue headlights) but I don't seek attention either.
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In general your rim should be sized to the tire.. for example a good rule of thumb. tire height should be close to rim size.. thus if run a 20" rim you should be running at least a 40" tall tire to maintain correct side wall space.
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Thanks to everyone for replying...
I have spent some good amount of time driving around and stoping by each parked Jeep that I saw in past weeks, while taking photos of larger wheels and comparing the look. I have found almost the same setup, the only difference was 22" rims comparing to 24" rims, and I more liked how 24 looked, and seems the 22" rims were a little bit small. So finally decided to go with: XD Series Rockstar XD775 Wheel (24x12"/8x170mm) and Road-Venture-MT-KL71 - 37X13.5R24
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Hi there, my first post, sorry to be so novice. The only question I had, while I started to read this forum about 3 hours ago was about 20" 22" and 24" rims and tires, and even then, when I have found the thread <"20" 22" and 24" Wheel and tire pics on Jeeps">, this thread was locked.

Why 22" or 24" rims not recommended? Question just in general, as I will search by myself all other posts, I saw the answer that everything above 18" on Jeep is taboo.... Is it like a technically not recommended, as re-gearing required, or it is because these Jeeps look stupid? or something else? To me, probably Ciara's Jeep is too black and too 24' rimish.. but another one, in white, I just love it. It was probably one of the attractive parts that leaded me to think about buying Jeep myself. And I am not the person who modifies cars, but Jeep.... All about Jeep starts from putting new rims and larger/wider tires, does not it?

(btw, sorry if my English is not too smooth, it is not my native)...

Should I put a few photos here to give an example of "Smoothed out bumpers fenders mirrors and painted white to match the body color. 5" lift with 37" khumo mt mud tires and custom 24" xd rockstar wheels."

Why it is wrong? Or it is not? Or this will bring MPG significantly down? or it will kill transmission... To many unknown to me that I even don't know what to ask....
Where did you get your rims???
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Hi there, my first post, sorry to be so novice. The only question I had, while I started to read this forum about 3 hours ago was about 20" 22" and 24" rims and tires, and even then, when I have found the thread <"20" 22" and 24" Wheel and tire pics on Jeeps">, this thread was locked.

Why 22" or 24" rims not recommended? Question just in general, as I will search by myself all other posts, I saw the answer that everything above 18" on Jeep is taboo.... Is it like a technically not recommended, as re-gearing required, or it is because these Jeeps look stupid? or something else? To me, probably Ciara's Jeep is too black and too 24' rimish.. but another one, in white, I just love it. It was probably one of the attractive parts that leaded me to think about buying Jeep myself. And I am not the person who modifies cars, but Jeep.... All about Jeep starts from putting new rims and larger/wider tires, does not it?

(btw, sorry if my English is not too smooth, it is not my native)...

Should I put a few photos here to give an example of "Smoothed out bumpers fenders mirrors and painted white to match the body color. 5" lift with 37" khumo mt mud tires and custom 24" xd rockstar wheels."

Why it is wrong? Or it is not? Or this will bring MPG significantly down? or it will kill transmission... To many unknown to me that I even don't know what to ask....
Where did you get your Rims???
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Looks good, perfect as a beach vehicle, to each their own. Welcome to the forum.

I appreciate your honesty, there are a lot of well done Jeeps that are built up for off roading but never see dirt.
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agree on everything, IHMO I have a technical college in my past (Automobile industry), and university in the same path, so i knew a lot about car design, engines, etc... and living in Germany for a few years, I loved driving above 250KM/h (or above 155 mph). Hence I don;t think that people who buying Jeep count on this car as primary transport to drive from cost to coast, or every day to work. to me it is like weekend fun, not more not less.

And my personal, as I have started to consider Jeep, and i started to look around how all Jeeps look, it seems to me that all Jeeps on small wheel look kind of ugly, and i see the tendency of Jeep owners to change wheels to larger right after they buy their Jeep. but add ing only 2" on new wheels doe not really change the look of Jeep, it still on small wheels.

Does this Jeep on the photos above look ugly or foolish?

It was probably first jeep i liked, and when i saw this Jeep in real it is a really good looking modification.

As a Mall crawler, I don;t care about this, i have pretty busy life doing water activities, jumping from airplanes, and every second day I am on the beach...

I am running 40's so I am old man then, and I have another car with good air dynamics to drive from New York City to Toronto in 3 hours (i have done it a few times, no tickets)...
For someone with so much automobile knowledge, you should certainly know the difference between tires and wheels. Small WHEELS on a Jeep looks good. Small TIRES does not. Less wheel + more tire = more better.

The Jeep you pictured does not look "ugly or foolish". It looks ugly AND foolish. I have no problem with someone who doesn't take their Jeep off road, but don't neuter it. It should at least be ABLE to go off road.
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For someone with so much automobile knowledge, you should certainly know the difference between tires and wheels. Small WHEELS on a Jeep looks good. Small TIRES does not. Less wheel + more tire = more better.

The Jeep you pictured does not look "ugly or foolish". It looks ugly AND foolish. I have no problem with someone who doesn't take their Jeep off road, but don't neuter it. It should at least be ABLE to go off road.
I meant to say what i said, "wheels", not "tires", "rims" and not "rubber"...

There are different people, and different "likes"...

Some people love to live in NJ or Baltimore - not me, to me these are the worst parts of US. However I have friends who like to live in Passaic NJ

I lived in Manhattan on Upper Westside for over 16 years, to me it is one of the best places for living, but not to those who are from NJ...

Some people like to live in Chicago suburbs with garbage alley as a view from their window (not me either ), I have beautiful downtown Chicago skyline view from my 50 floor flat

Another thing is "off-road", to get off road in Passaic NJ, or in Miami Beach to me are two different things.... Some likes to mess with dirt (and personally I have no issues with it, I had enough dirt when I was teenager or up to about age of 23...), some don't like dirt but they may have fun do drive on the beach, that is kind of "off road" too...

Whatever is stylish to me can be too ugly to some..
Whatever is cool to some can be too foolish to me..
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Where did you get your Rims???
Just google for XD Series Rockstar XD775 Wheel, you will find it in a lot of local places, or order over the internet...
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I meant to say what i said, "wheels", not "tires", "rims" and not "rubber"...

There are different people, and different "likes"...

Some people love to live in NJ or Baltimore - not me, to me these are the worst parts of US. However I have friends who like to live in Passaic NJ

I lived in Manhattan on Upper Westside for over 16 years, to me it is one of the best places for living, but not to those who are from NJ...

Some people like to live in Chicago suburbs with garbage alley as a view from their window (not me either ), I have beautiful downtown Chicago skyline view from my 50 floor flat

Another thing is "off-road", to get off road in Passaic NJ, or in Miami Beach to me are two different things.... Some likes to mess with dirt (and personally I have no issues with it, I had enough dirt when I was teenager or up to about age of 23...), some don't like dirt but they may have fun do drive on the beach, that is kind of "off road" too...

Whatever is stylish to me can be too ugly to some..
Whatever is cool to some can be too foolish to me..
Got it. You have no knowledge of Jeeps and no clue what you are talking about.
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Got it. You have no knowledge of Jeeps and no clue what you are talking about.
I am fine with that, I don't need to have 21K of internet posts to claim deep knowledge of jeeps... I don't know anything about them .. Should I ? Probably not - I am not a sales guy and I don't need to fake orgasm as a woman if I don't have it... I have no clue? Yes I don't, and i don't hide it... Otherwise why would I ask for others opinion on this forum..... Should i have much clue? probably not - I don't work for Chrysler Corporation and I don't have to design their cars, or transmissions or other smart things, I'Ill leave it to them....

And for me it is good enough that based on their "Arctic 2012 Edition" idea, I sold to them another pretty cool idea of "JEEP 78S 106E POLAR" - idea of the most adventure Jeep in car-builders industry history survinig the lowest extreme temperatures - idea linked to the Russian Vostok Station (Russian: Станция Восток, Stntsiya Vostk, lit. "Station East" or "East Station") - research station in Antarctica, which lies at the southern Pole of Cold, with the lowest reliably measured natural temperature on Earth of −89.2C(−128.56F)

They even trademark this idea - JEEP 78S 106E POLAR - Reviews & Brand Information - CHRYSLER GROUP LLC Auburn Hills, MI - Serial Number: 86056688

Right, I don't know anything about jeeps after I drove one in the Soviet Army for two years and in the conditions quiet different from what some home grown flowers are trying to find in suburb's mud paddles around the cities. Right, I don't know anything about jeeps staring my own every morning at -40 to -50F temperatures for a few winter seasons in deep North part of Russia

Well, I also don't know anything about how to drive fast, simply no clue... I just spent a few years working in Germany and drove in average around 150-168 MPH on a daily base.... So my respect to these car-builders !!!

Well, I have no clue about so many things in this world... I have no clue how parachute flies - i am just one happy skydiver and I am fine to fall down with 200 MPH speed, and I don't need to have much clue for details how my helmet was built or what stiches were used in my canopy...

I am just a regular user who enjoys lots of cool things and Jeep is now one of them... and I am fine with that

I am happy to have my new JEEP 78S 106E POLAR gifted to me from Chrysler Corporation, with only 7 miles on its odometer, while my old with over 120K miles will go back in history... so I am leaving these large rims with old one (i guess my question got its answer), while I am enjoying my fresh set of regilar Pirelli ATR Scorpio P275/65R18, the only one tire graded as 116H for Jeeps.

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I think it looks awesome! I'm originally from your way as well but now in the US. I run 20's on mine. Post some pics of the new ride!
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It's on taboo because Jeeps are designed to be on/off road vehicles. The large wheels go against every common sense rule in the book of off-roading. When you put big wheels on a Jeep it indicates that is a pure road or just a show vehicle. This goes against the grain with off road enthusiasts.

It would be no different if you took a Ferrari 430 lifted it 6 inches, installed 35" off road tires, chopped the fenders and made a pre-runner. You would get the same reaction: Why????

Regardless of what you do, someone won't agree. It's your Jeep so do whatever makes you happy! It's called Freedom of Choice.
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It's on taboo because Jeeps are designed to be on/off road vehicles. The large wheels go against every common sense rule in the book of off-roading. When you put big wheels on a Jeep it indicates that is a pure road or just a show vehicle. This goes against the grain with off road enthusiasts.

It would be no different if you took a Ferrari 430 lifted it 6 inches, installed 35" off road tires, chopped the fenders and made a pre-runner. You would get the same reaction: Why????

Regardless of what you do, someone won't agree. It's your Jeep so do whatever makes you happy! It's called Freedom of Choice.

I am on the same page if we talk about "OFF ROAD"... And good example of "lifted Ferrari"...


However, some people don't need off road over the edge, they are just in love with their Jeep to be as clean as someone else Ferrari... it is the same as in skydiving, some people like small canopy and they do swoop, some love BIG WAYS, some go head down only and some make money of the tandem jumps... And each group of skydivers may not understand why others do something different or opposite...

I personally have had a plenty of real off-road experience in the Army time, and when i was 20 i would thin only of to get as much as possible more rubber on my wheels. I don't really need and want to go off road now when I am 50 just for the plain fun of it, and to me it looks so stupid to see something what these folks do - https://www.facebook.com/TheLakelandJeepClub but I am not saying "it is stupid" it is their fun, and i have my own fun.... I am enjoying beech drive with 3-4 girls in bikinis in my Jeep with a few surf boards on the top as much as someone enjoys the dirt on his face driving jeep across muggy field..

I enjoy nice ride in my open jeep in the city or driving by the beach, and I know if I will need to go 4x4 on the lower gear, I can handle it and my Jeep can handle it, and it is enough to know...

At the same time people do change with time, and as I have already wrote I decided not to put any large rims and wheels on my new jeep, i love my Jeep the way it looks like it is, on normal wheels, all what I have done is I have replaced OEM tires with the wider footprints and it looks great and it runs great.

There are as many "off road enthusiasts" as "show-off on the road folks"...
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Hehe...And I bet those surfboards never touch the surf either! Hey...you can do what you want to your free Arctic Jeep! Welcome to America! But...come to any Jeep "enthusiasts" web site and ask a silly question...well...it is what it is. The Jeep you are thinking of creating is really just a car. That seems to be a bit of a waste but...it is your Jeep so....Long as you have thick skin, go for it! As long as you understand, we are free to laugh at it....(not that we would, mind you!) 8)
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I am on the same page if we talk about "OFF ROAD"... And good example of "lifted Ferrari"...


However, some people don't need off road over the edge, they are just in love with their Jeep to be as clean as someone else Ferrari... it is the same as in skydiving, some people like small canopy and they do swoop, some love BIG WAYS, some go head down only and some make money of the tandem jumps... And each group of skydivers may not understand why others do something different or opposite...

I personally have had a plenty of real off-road experience in the Army time, and when i was 20 i would thin only of to get as much as possible more rubber on my wheels. I don't really need and want to go off road now when I am 50 just for the plain fun of it, and to me it looks so stupid to see something what these folks do - https://www.facebook.com/TheLakelandJeepClub but I am not saying "it is stupid" it is their fun, and i have my own fun.... I am enjoying beech drive with 3-4 girls in bikinis in my Jeep with a few surf boards on the top as much as someone enjoys the dirt on his face driving jeep across muggy field..

I enjoy nice ride in my open jeep in the city or driving by the beach, and I know if I will need to go 4x4 on the lower gear, I can handle it and my Jeep can handle it, and it is enough to know...

At the same time people do change with time, and as I have already wrote I decided not to put any large rims and wheels on my new jeep, i love my Jeep the way it looks like it is, on normal wheels, all what I have done is I have replaced OEM tires with the wider footprints and it looks great and it runs great.

There are as many "off road enthusiasts" as "show-off on the road folks"...
You missed my point. Personally I don't care if anyone lowers their Jeep, paints it pink or paints Puff the Magic Dragon on it. I believe in Freedom and that includes the Freedom to do to your Jeep what ever makes you happy.

Most owners that buy aftermarket rims specially large ones do it for aesthetic purposes and therefore they care about the appearance of the rims. Big rims by nature decrease the size of the rubber unless you add really big tires. Big rims with short sidewalls is a formula for damaged rims off road and near city curbs hence not the best of ideas regardless of how much experience you have.

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If you want to do it, do it. It's technically possible for sure. You might need some lift for the absolute biggest wheels if you want some decent size tires on them.

The Jeep community is very sensitive about the image of their vehicles and often ridicule those that break from the image. Who cares? You're not going to put huge wheels on *their* Jeep... Just yours!

Of course massive wheels wrapped in minimal tires is going to be a pretty terrible ride. But then again, Jeeps with 15-17" wheels wrapped in 37-40" tires aren't going to be particularly practical on road either.

It's your Jeep. Build it how you want to meet your needs and desires!

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