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Old 07-24-2013, 08:16 AM   #1
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AEV Savagre Wheel Backspacing

I Want to install AEV Savagre 17 wheels with Teranflex 1.5 inch performance leveling kit on 2012 JK. AEV has 5.2 backspace. Will I be rubbing with 275/70r17 Duratracs? Everything I've read says you need 4.5, so I'm confused why AEV uses 5.2.

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Old 07-25-2013, 08:16 PM   #2
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You will not rub, AEV uses 5.2 as their rims are hub centric. My buddy has Pintlers with 37/13.5 R17 and has no problems with his 4.5 lift. He does have an aftermarket bumper with no plastic air damn, usually hits there on turns, if it does just trim it down a bit. I have seen plenty of pics of AEV wheels with 285/70 R17's with no lift.

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What do you mean by "hub centric?" I really like the AEV's, but am concerned that they do not have enough back spacing for me. I am about to do a 2" lift and want to run the biggest tires possible without rubbing and without cutting, adding washers, etc. I am not convinced that the AEV's, with only 5.2" of back spacing, will accommodate the same size tires as other brands that have 4.5". What do you think?
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Hub Centric means the hub bore on the wheel just fits the actual hub of the jeep and is a better/stronger design then lug centric where the wheel bore is over size so they fit a multiple of vehicles. stock rims are hub centric. If you use AEV rims with 2" lift and 275/70's you will not rub.
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Hub Centric means the hub bore on the wheel just fits the actual hub of the jeep and is a better/stronger design then lug centric where the wheel bore is over size so they fit a multiple of vehicles. stock rims are hub centric. If you use AEV rims with 2" lift and 275/70's you will not rub.
Thanks. Another reason to like AEVs. Do you think 295/70/17 would fit without rubbing?
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Thanks. Another reason to like AEVs. Do you think 295/70/17 would fit without rubbing?
Or 305/70/17? That's almost a 34" tire.
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Or 305/70/17? That's almost a 34" tire.
If you do a 2" lift the 305/70 R17 should be ok, I know you can with a 2.5 lift and it has plenty of room... May have to trim the stock plastic air damn a bit but that's super easy. Also check your pinch seam...
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Old 07-27-2013, 05:09 AM   #8
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Thanks for the info! I also called AEV and was told the wheels would fit with no issues. Now I'm thinking going to 35s.....
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Old 08-23-2013, 03:32 PM   #9
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I have a 2" lift and about to upgrade to 305/70/17 Duratracs. Guys at OK4WD said I should have no problems. They did raise concerns if I want to 35" tires though especially if the truck saw any use off road.
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Don't buy into the "hub centric" hype that AEV uses to sell their wheels. They are nice wheels, but that feature is not giving you anything except an advertising ploy.

Before you get too excited see if you can find any failures related to this issue. The only way the hub can begin to carry the weight is if the lugs have already failed. They don't share the load. And if the lugs have failed, the wheel is going to come off. Long ago there was a style of wheel that used a kind of flat washer to hold the wheel against the flange and the center hole to carry the weight. Not anymore. Tapered lugs have zero play and do not rely on the center hub to carry the weight.
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Don't buy into the "hub centric" hype that AEV uses to sell their wheels. They are nice wheels, but that feature is not giving you anything except an advertising ploy.

Before you get too excited see if you can find any failures related to this issue. The only way the hub can begin to carry the weight is if the lugs have already failed. They don't share the load. And if the lugs have failed, the wheel is going to come off. Long ago there was a style of wheel that used a kind of flat washer to hold the wheel against the flange and the center hole to carry the weight. Not anymore. Tapered lugs have zero play and do not rely on the center hub to carry the weight.
You are correct in that the hub centricity does not transfer the load to the hub, especially in a vehicle as light as a jeep. The Hub centric design is there to ensure the wheel is centered when mounted and avoid balance issues or mis-alignment resulting in wheel hop. Lug centric wheels have been around forever too and there's nothing wrong with them, it's simply easier to ensure proper mounting with a hub centric wheel. My GMC 2500HD has Lug Centric wheels, OEM wheels were lug centric as well so not all OEM wheels are hub centric. These are 8 lug wheels though but I've never had an issue getting them mounted correctly. There's lots of threads of issues with the Jeep 5 lug wheels that are not hub centric, I'm guessing some have a larger bolt hole than others resulting in more play before tightening but the ION wheels I have on my wife's JKUR are lug centric and a damn tight fit without even putting the lug nuts on. For what it's worth the only lug centric wheels I've heard of problems with are the ProComp wheels which is unfortunate since I do like those wheels.
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Hub centric are less universal and unfortunately hub centric alloy wheels on ferrous hubs result in galvanic corrosion and if not frequently removed can be very difficult to remove especially bad on a dark rainy night at roadside when you need a 3 foot 4x4 or a sledge to get the flat tire rim off the hub
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Hub centric are less universal and unfortunately hub centric alloy wheels on ferrous hubs result in galvanic corrosion and if not frequently removed can be very difficult to remove especially bad on a dark rainy night at roadside when you need a 3 foot 4x4 or a sledge to get the flat tire rim off the hub
I've found that most OEM wheels are difficult to remove and require a good whack, even my GMC 2500HD OEM aluminum wheels which are lug centric. Rotating them every 7500 miles is good for the tires and makes it easier to get them off. I've never had any issue taking aftermkt alloy wheels off the 2500HD with tons more mileage between rotations than the OEMs. 2013 stock Rubicon wheels have been rotated twice now in 12K miles and a simple palm whack on the top has done the trick so far (like stiff arming the top of the tire).
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probably one of the best wheels out there of that type is the Interco Birddog wheel it's not a "looks" wheel at all. super strong with a 3000lb load cap with a 37" tall tire. it isn't hub centric ether but the install kit uses ET style lugnuts to not only help center the wheel on the hub to gain extra thread grip as they extend into the wheel. go to interco tire website and click on wheel to truly learn about its features. almost forgot the wheel comes in 2 different offsets. you would use the 4.5" one. this way no rubbing with the bigger tires.

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