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Old 09-16-2009, 01:13 AM   #1
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BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO Vs. Goodyear DuraTrack

Im in the market for some fairly Aggressive All Terain type tires for my lifted TJ, and am deciding between the BFG All Terrain T/A KO's and the Goodyear DuraTracks. My main concern is the off road traction that the BFG A/T's may or may not offer. They are pretty much the same price, and im looking for someone who may have run both of them in the same size for some real world input. Im leaning towards the BFG because it is more readily availible in the size i would get, 33x10.5x15. But my only concern with them is the tread pattern appears to be not very aggressive.

If anyone has any other suggestions in tires that are availible in 33x10.5x15 im also open to them. I would also think of 32x11.5x15 if they were better, and would work OK with 7 inch factory wheels with spacers.

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Would 32x11.5's be an option for me with the 7 inch wide rims? I have heard not to go over 4 inches over your rim width, that would be more than that if i went with the 32x11.5x15's

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What kind of off-roading are you planning on doing? If it's mud, forget an A/T tire- they'll clog and spin in seconds.
Also, where are you located?
As for width, you can fit an 11.5" tire on a 7" wheel- it'll actually tend to help keep the bead on the wheel when you're off-road. On-road ride won't be as great (mostly in terms of stability [directional]), but it'll be fine- Mark W.
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Old 09-16-2009, 02:42 PM   #4
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The Duratrac's are good tires, basically one notch under the old MT/R's. I've run BFG A/T's on all my families Jeeps and have had great success with them. We don't play in the mud or snow so I can't offer an advise there. But they do perform rather well in the rocks. As far as a street tire goes, the last set on my mother's XJ lasted close to 80k miles. I've got close to 6k miles on my 32x11.5's with little to no wear to be seen.
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Now im really thinking about the BFG A/T's in 32x11.5 and just getting a set of craiger v5's in 15x8, which is only about $70-80 more expensive than the spacers that i would have to order to run that size on my factory 15x7's

My problem is none of the mail order places have the BFG A/T's in stock in 32x11.5, but i know they make them, ive seen them in classifieds before. If i cant find the BFG A/T's in 32x11.5 im thinking about trying these:
Laramie Tempra Trailcutter Radial A/T Tires for Sale Online - Vulcan Tire Sales




They are only 126$ a piece and look better then the Kuhmo A/T's in the same size.
I live in SC by the way.
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Old 09-17-2009, 09:27 AM   #6
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How long would it for the local guys to get them? These tires (BFG's) are fantastic on the road. I highly recommend them for DD use.


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Now im really thinking about the BFG A/T's in 32x11.5 and just getting a set of craiger v5's in 15x8, which is only about $70-80 more expensive than the spacers that i would have to order to run that size on my factory 15x7's

My problem is none of the mail order places have the BFG A/T's in stock in 32x11.5, but i know they make them, ive seen them in classifieds before. If i cant find the BFG A/T's in 32x11.5 im thinking about trying these:
Laramie Tempra Trailcutter Radial A/T Tires for Sale Online - Vulcan Tire Sales




They are only 126$ a piece and look better then the Kuhmo A/T's in the same size.
I live in SC by the way.
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Old 09-20-2009, 11:22 PM   #7
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I would go with the BFG A/Ts they have got great reviews and many miles on them.
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Old 09-20-2009, 11:34 PM   #8
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I have never had one complaint from to bfg i ran them and i still have them on my z71.. I run a mt on my jeep... But i had a set of bfg at on there first
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BFGoodrich. I just got a set for my 95' on saturday while in IL seeing my family, and then drove 300+ miles home... I have no regrets.
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:42 PM   #10
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Lets hear from all the Duratrackers out there! My BFGs were great on my Nissan pickup but lousy on my F150.

I'm in the same boat needing bigger, more aggressive meats. With stock TJ, I'd like to switch to the 32x11.5s. But Duratrack doesn't make them. So I may just go up to 31x10.5 since I won't have to buy spacers or new wheels.

I'm looking for some more reviews from people who have used both of these tires. Being up north, reviews about snow performance is really appreciated. Both tires are rated for snow use but feedback from actual users carries much more weight.

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Old 07-29-2010, 01:05 PM   #11
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Old boss used BFG AT TA KO on his Nissan hardbody...he had a house in the mountains, and said they did nice in the snow....

I've driven my 31x10.5 BFG's in the snow/ICE. (when it snows here, its ice, then snow on the ground) and 4WD was very helpful, once in 4wd, everything felt quite stable, and I was pleased. in 2wd, being sideways was the norm.

I'm not a goodyear fan, so no comments
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Old 08-01-2010, 12:01 PM   #12
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Duratrac

I have had 235/75/15 duratracs on my TJ for a couple of months now and at this point I haven't found a single negative aspect. Now i can't say how they will wear over all but with 2000 +/- miles on them so far they still look brand new. Very quite and handle great. I have liked them so much that I bought another set of in 265/75/16 flavor for my Silverado and my Fiance is having them installed today.

I have nothing against the BFG's other than the fact that the tread is not aggressive enough for what I was looking for. The only thing I have heard from people around here (Maine) is that they are not all that good off road and that they are are only OK in the snow. But that could all be due to the local conditions in Maine.

They do last forever from what I have heard, as usual it all depends on what your criteria are
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Old 08-01-2010, 12:31 PM   #13
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I have the BFGs on my Jeep right now. I love them. If you're looking for aggressive treads, no AT is really going to have what you're looking for. You'd have to step up to muds. But the BFGs are a good all around tire that are great on and off the road. My opinion, get the BFGs then get a set of muds for your off-roading. Just my opinion.
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Old 08-01-2010, 02:27 PM   #14
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I've run the BFG AT's for over 70k on a Z-71, and on a 2500HD.

I have them on my 03 TJ, and they have been fine in Louisiana mud.......
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My new Master Plan calls for a 3" Body Lift, followed by installation of BF Goodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM2's in 32/11.5R15. My question is whether I'll need to fiddle with anything else to get this combination to work. I really don't want to start tackling gearing changes and the like, but the TJ has 15x9 rims and I'd like to do them justice. I'm open to suggestions, pro -or- con.

By the way, I'll be raising the seat height 1.25" next week...I'll let you know how it feels.
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Old 08-15-2010, 09:45 PM   #16
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Thanks to everybody for your feedback so far!

I'm really temped to do something crazy!
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Old 08-16-2010, 05:27 PM   #17
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This summer I bought a set of 31/10.50x15 BFG A/T TA KO and mounted them on a set of Mickey Thompson Classic Locks. So far I absolutely love them. They are extremely quiet on the road and with them being mounted on the classic locks theres no problem with rubbing because they stick out almost three inches from a stock rim. So yeah take a look at the classic locks and see what you think.
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New guy here but I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents worth.

I've run BFG AT's before and while they are a good tire for hwy use, for a lot of offroad situations they aren't that great. They clog up REAL FAST in mud and they don't have a lot of bite in loose terrain situations. They are fairly quiet on the hwy though.

I have BFG MT's on my truck now. Offroad they work pretty good. Good bite in loose terrain situations, very good in deep snow, decent in mud (there are better out there... need a lot of wheel spin to keep the tires clean). However, they aren't that great on the hwy. Quite noisy, and I always have to be extra careful when driving in slippery conditions.

Now to the Duratrac. I am getting these installed on my new Rubicon next week and pulling the BGF MT's off. My buddy has them on his jeep and he says they are the best tire he's ever had. Great all around tire. Very quiet on the hwy, excellent in the snow, good in slippery conditions and still pretty good in the mud. There will always be better tires out there that do one or two things better than this tire, but I doubt there is one that does as many things so well. Done a lot of research on these tires and everything comes up roses. ... plus my buddy gives them two thumbs up (and he's done a fair amount of offroading) and thats good enough for me.

BFG AT..

BFG MT...

Goodyear Duratrac...

Here's a thread comparing the BFG MT and the Duratrac, with some excellent side by side pics.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/tir...ons-40066.html
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I haven't actually had much experience with tires on a Jeep as I have only has mine a couple of months, but my friend has a 2000 Jeep TJ Sport and has always used Goodyear All Terrain tires. His first set lasted him 6 years, including two trips to Brampton Ontario from St. John's Newfoundland and back, well over 2000km. We get tons of ice and snow in the winter and he has never had a problem with them. Not sure how they are off roading, he is not hard core into it, but he has had them through a bit of mud and says there great for that as well. Overall a great tire.
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Old 08-21-2010, 03:57 PM   #20
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I had 31" BFG's on my XJ, then moved up to 33" Duratracs after I did the lift. For the wheeling I do (and BTW these tires are now on my 97 TJ) whick is a 75% mix of rock and 25% mud I prefer the Duratracs. Excellent roadmanners, way better in the winter in my opinion. Only place I've ever had any kind of issue is in thick clay mud, where even a good MT would tend to pack up.
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:45 PM   #21
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I just bought 5 Goodyear Duratracs for my JK and love them. They have performed flawlessly on and off road. Best AT tire currently.
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I bought DuraTracs in 31x10.50r15 earlier this month. Will be taking them offroad this weekend at a jeep jamboree. Much better on the road than my 5 year old Coper Discoverer H/Ts, which are really a highway tire. Today it was rainy and I noticed extremely good traction where the old Coopers would have spun a bit before grabbing the pavement. a lot of siping on the DuraTracs. I really like this tire. I was going to get Cooper S/t because onreally was not a fan of Goodyear after the poor wear of the OEM GS/A tires but so far I am glad I got the duratracs. BTW, goodrich has a good video on their web site for their mud terrain tire. Looks impressive.
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:58 AM   #23
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I've had the DuraTrac 285 75 16s for a couple months now. I like these better than the BFG AT TKO, BFG MT, Std Goodyear Wrangler GSA & Falcon ATs. The DuraTracs are the quietest of all of them.

They are great on-road for dry and wet, including some pretty deep puddles- no hydroplaning. They are great in the loose dirt, hard-packed dirt and just above average in the slippery clay. In the slick clay, they drifted side to side per the trail conditions as most MTs will and got me through all obstacles without hesitation. Except the 40+° inclined hill. It was clay, it was wet, I had my wife & 2 year old in the Jeep and wasn't taking any chances. We made it half way up the 100 yard rutted, wet, slimey hill before forward progress was stopped.

They clean out pretty well as long as you get some good wheel speed, otherwise, the sticky mud will stay in there.

I did take the Jeep down & up a 60° inclined creek bed about 30 yards each side in dry, loose conditions. The tires worked flawlessly.

I haven't had them in the snow yet but I imagine they'll do just fine. Especially for an all-purpose tire!

And the tread pattern in the pictures is very decieving. The gaps between the treads are much larger than the pictures look. I was really quite surprised when I saw the tires in person. I saw a picture somewhere of a quarter sitting in between the tread blocks of these tires. I imagine that the tires were probably around 33".
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I have the BFG T/A KO's, 30x9.50x15, they are quiet, and perform ok on dry ground/pavement. but not great in wet weather or mud. I will be upgrading to Goodyear Duratracs. the 30x9.50x15 size tires do great as far fuel 16-17mpg, & handling the corners, but personally I think the 265/75R16s (31.7x10.50x16) will look better, so I'll be upsizing aswell. in the pic my tj is still stock no lift yet.
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You might consider getting the 31x10.5x15s instead because the 15s tires are typically cheaper than the 16s. And you won't have to buy new wheels.

Just looked them up on tire rack; the 31x10.5x15s are $30 cheaper PER TIRE!
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I just put 31/10.5/15 Dura Tracs on my TJ. Love 'em so far. Surprisingly quiet on highway too. Haven't been off-road yet. Look around though, found mine for $140 ea. Balance out really nice too.
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First, Jon M your jeep does look really good stock with the 31's!

I had considered originally going with out the lift, and just doing the 31's. but after seeing a tj with 265/75R16's and a 2" BBL I was sold. being Truck drivers we get a pretty hefty tax return check from Uncle Sam, so I'll be able to afford the lift, tires, wheels, new soft top, front bumper, all at once. & maybe Santa will bring the sliders, insta trunk, head light conversion, and seat covers. Eventually I'd like to move up to the 285/75R16's, after I get a 1" BL & 1" ML
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Sounds awesome. Wish I could take care of everything all at once, but wife would divorce me... Since buying this jeep recently, figured out these things are just like my Harleys with all the aftermarket jeep crack!!!! Ugh
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First, Jon M your jeep does look really good stock with the 31's!

I had considered originally going with out the lift, and just doing the 31's. but after seeing a tj with 265/75R16's and a 2" BBL I was sold. being Truck drivers we get a pretty hefty tax return check from Uncle Sam, so I'll be able to afford the lift, tires, wheels, new soft top, front bumper, all at once. & maybe Santa will bring the sliders, insta trunk, head light conversion, and seat covers. Eventually I'd like to move up to the 285/75R16's, after I get a 1" BL & 1" ML
See my Jeep profile for pics of the 285 75 16s with 2" BB. It was fairly easy to do except for all the bolts being rusted frozen to the frame.

If you're going to do aftermarket bumpers, they are typically significantly heavier than the stock bumper. And if you are going to add a winch, then you're talking even MORE weight. You would probably want do more research whether you want to stick with the 2" BB. I love my BB and for the light off-roading we do with stock bumpers, it's just enough (we don't disco).
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