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Old 07-15-2013, 11:56 PM   #1
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DuraTrac?

These i believe will be replacing the silent armors that i've loved but are now spent, but it's saying they won't fit. I see it's showing me 31 & 33 and i currently have 32. I'm doing a small lift. I would imagine than they would work, but anyone have any experience with these? Heavy? Light? I can't see how if i'm already using 32's why it's telling me it won't work


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Old 07-15-2013, 11:58 PM   #2
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nevermind... reading they s**k in snow. <----- wish there was a 'delete' thread option

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Strange. From what I have heard, Duratracs are great in snow. I have yet to see anyone say the opposite. Duratracs are typically the first tire to be recommended to people.
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Strange. From what I have heard, Duratracs are great in snow. I have yet to see anyone say the opposite. Duratracs are typically the first tire to be recommended to people.
That's what i thought. Think the reviews were on tire racs site that i read.
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Hmmm, 400 4/5 stars and 28 3/2/1 star. And most people running them on this forum swear by them (heck they are "the combo" tire for the most part). I think it is safe to say they are solid tires.

They are in the running for my new tires when my funds manager says I can spend away.
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Hmmm, 400 4/5 stars and 28 3/2/1 star. And most people running them on this forum swear by them (heck they are "the combo" tire for the most part). I think it is safe to say they are solid tires.

They are in the running for my new tires when my funds manager says I can spend away.
Don't get me wrong, I want them as well, but I need something that is going to stick to the rain and snow and I read and will retrace, that a lot said they stunk in the snow. Still shopping around
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Cooper Discovery AT3's in 285/70/17.

I'm in upstate NY and they work GREAT even with all the snow we get.
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My Duratracs did slip in the rain when new. That's a common complaint. But as the miles went on they got a lot better.

In the snow they ROCKED. I climbed muddy hills covered in a half foot of snow like it wasn't even there. Duratrac tires are awesome in snow. Good cleaning tread, good siping, and side biters... one of the best snow tires on the market for year round use.
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My Duratracs did slip in the rain when new. That's a common complaint. But as the miles went on they got a lot better.

In the snow they ROCKED. I climbed muddy hills covered in a half foot of snow like it wasn't even there. Duratrac tires are awesome in snow. Good cleaning tread, good siping, and side biters... one of the best snow tires on the market for year round use.
And my biggest fear. THANK U much
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They have Weak sidewalls though.
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I run the duratracs in a 33" and they are a great tire. Performed amazing over the winter during our jersey snow storms which range from wet and heavy slush to some lighter snow. I don't think I've ever slid in the rain or on wet surfaces since I've had them, which is 4500 miles/9 months or so
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I run the duratracs in a 33" and they are a great tire. Performed amazing over the winter during our jersey snow storms which range from wet and heavy slush to some lighter snow. I don't think I've ever slid in the rain or on wet surfaces since I've had them, which is 4500 miles/9 months or so
This was me before a move to NC^^^^^^^.

I have had mine for almost 30,000 miles and they are worn to around 3/16 of an inch. Much of the sipes still remain, although they are shorter now that the tread blocks are worn down. I was surprised how deep they went. I am still very confident with these tires, never a problem with slipping in rain/wet roads starting or stopping. I will be buying another set in the upcoming months.

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I can't say anything about snow (it doesn't snow here in Lower Alabama). But driving in heavy rains these tires are awesome. And offroad in sand or mud they're great! I have the 33x12.50x15s. I will be buying another set when these wear out.
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Old 07-20-2013, 06:59 AM   #14
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They have Weak sidewalls though.
They have a weak sidewall compared to mud terrains, but this isn't a mud terrain tire.
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I wouldn't say they're not mud terrains, Goodyear classifies them as all terrains but the side walls are stamped with M&S - "mud and snow" the voids between the tread blocks are larger than some mud tires that I've seen, and they get my stock jeep through mud holes, where others had to use lockers to get through, with other tires. Also wouldn't throw that "weak side wall" tag on them. I haven't had any problems with mine while offroading. They're just not bullet proof.
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I can tell you they work perfectly in the snow, I'm in Wyoming, we have winter just a little over 9 months out of the year, it snows, the roads are closed more than open and the Duratracs are the tire to have.

What makes them better than most of the other A/T type tires is the siping (the little cuts in the knobs of the tread), they open and close a little as you drive allowing them to grip ice and snow much more completely.

The downside of the siping on the Duratracs is when off-road they can wear a little faster on sharp rock if your throttle heavy.

The prices are really good, usually a little under $200/ea when I buy them. I run them on my Jeep and all the 1-tons and F-550s at work that have to reach extreme remote locations.

For an all around tire they are the best going, if you were further south and had no snow the the BFG or other A/Ts would be fine, if you do lots and lots of off road then the Good Year Kevlars are the crown jewel, but for dual purpose in northern climates you can't go wrong with the Duratracs (and 33x12.5x15s are usually cheaper than 32"s).
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Old 07-20-2013, 04:22 PM   #17
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Thanks Everyone. I think I want to go for a more sleeker rugged tire. This is a little too beefy looking for me. So many options but I have two months.
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I wouldn't say they're not mud terrains, Goodyear classifies them as all terrains but the side walls are stamped with M&S - "mud and snow" .
I really like the DTs as well, but just realize the M&S is a pretty general rating... So much so that the Bridgestone Ecopia tires on my wife's minivan have that same magical rating (along with any other tire that is anything more than a strictly summer street performance tire).
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They also have the snowflake mountain stamp showing they meet DOTs regs (I think DOT) for snow.
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The snowflake/mountain symbol means it offers better performance in poor weather than a standard M+S tire would.
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Do as you wish, but you won't find a better all terrain tire that is smooth and quiet on road, and performs so well in the rain snow and off road situations. I've had the BFG T/A KO tires, and they're not good in the rain.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:28 PM   #22
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My number one need is "grip" in rain. 2nd is snow. Off road is way down. The silent armors were my best friend. Total grippers. But I want to move to a more rugged looking tire.. Worst-case scenario, I will go back to those, but will definitely check into these more thoroughly And some others.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:29 PM   #23
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I think they are 32's? My aim is a 33.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:53 PM   #24
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The reason the Silent Armor grip as well as they do is the siping cut in to the tread, the Duratracs have siping that is far and away better than the Silent Armor, see for your yourself.




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Old 07-21-2013, 04:00 PM   #25
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The reason the Silent Armor grip as well as they do is the siping cut in to the tread, the Duratracs have siping that is far and away better than the Silent Armor, see for your yourself.
All those groves question. I know the deeper the gap the better the grip for climbing and such, But what kind of tread does one look for when looking for a grip rain or snow tire.
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Never mind :-) I learned something today


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All the little cuts in the tread, the little jagged lines on the knobs themselves, that's called siping, that is what creates astounding grip. When your driving, rain, snow, ice and so on, the siping spreads and contracts gripping the surface, what this does is give you hundreds more edges to grip with.

In the above images you see the siping on the Silent Armors is one, sometimes 2 cuts, straight lines, while the Duratracs have 2 per tread lug, cut in a zig-zag pattern, this gives you a gripping edge not only at the tread lug edges, but also at each zig and zag of the siping cut as well.

The most amazing tires I've ever run on ice are Mastercraft Glacier Grips, on the wifes Tracker you can drive straight up on ice, they are amazing, also due to the siping, they arent good Jeep tires but it's another very good example of the difference siping makes.

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Hey There speaking from the perspective of a person with a lot of miles (165K+) on and a few off road in my Jeep...let me tell you my experience.....I switched to BFG ATs based on a magazine article back in '05. And for my little TJ they worked well till it rained, than I could sit and spin if I was in a hurry at all. Didn't even have to try and slid around a corner or chirp, or spin from the light. And could always take off in second gear as I could accelerate and dump the clutch and they would spin....or hook up and I was gone. They lasted for about 50K miles so I did it again, and they lasted about 50K and I did it again but had been hearing about the Duratracs for a year or so.

Last fall I came into a situation that allowed another inch BL to go with my SL and a new set of wheels and tires. I shopped and compared and tires and wheels Duratracs or BFG MTRs were gonna run me about $300 mount balanced out the door with free rotations...but if I got the Duratracs I could get the road hazard warranty since it is an AT and not an MT. for the same price (like for a sidewall failure like I hit a curb or rock)

This was a "lifetime warranty" and "SOLD" me on the Duratracs.

So no more second gear take offs as they "hook up" really well wet or dry pavement. And snow yeah its a blast!!! Ever go snow wheeling?? It is great when you know your tire and set up is gonna be the "equalizer" for what most other people are running. Mine were installed last Fall and I have ZERO complaints. I have had them in mud water snow rain slush ice and am very happy.....my only concern is longevity. My TJ is my DD and even though we have other vehicles available I prefer to drive the TJ, I am afraid that a tire that good and that "sticky" may not have a very long tread life. I am using the free rotations and balancing...every oil change.

We also have a '12 JK and when the tires are gone on it...yeah its getting Duratracs...in the 33"x12.50" variety
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I've been reading a lot of reviews on a few different brands. I've never really had anything other than Bridgestone and Goodyear.

Seems they do have some pretty good reviews, except that it looks like they are a bit noisy and wear out rather quickly. I do do an awful lot of driving.

The Coopers got a really good rating.

Anybody have any luck with any of the other brands

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I've been reading a lot of reviews on a few different brands. I've never really had anything other than Bridgestone and Goodyear.

Seems they do have some pretty good reviews, except that it looks like they are a bit noisy and wear out rather quickly. I do do an awful lot of driving.

The Coopers got a really good rating.

Anybody have any luck with any of the other brands

Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac
I get more wind noise than tire noise just sayin.....

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