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Old 02-18-2012, 09:32 PM   #1
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found the wheel, help on size... procomp 7005

Pro Comp Series 7005 Cast-Blast Wheels - Xtreme Alloy Cast Wheels, Pro Comp Wheel

I found the wheel I want, need some advise on size...
17x8 or 17x9 ???

likely going with 285/70/17 tire

would i be better of with the 9" wheel, incase I ever end up with a 33/12.5 tire??

just curious

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The 17x8 has a 4.5 backspacing and the 17x9 has a 4.75 backspacing. Either would work just fine with a 33" tire. However, if you ever plan on going with a 35" or larger, the 4.5 backspacing wheel would give you more clearance for the frame.

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What 2L said: 17x8.
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Hi, thanks. I just thought the 9" wheel would have fit the tire better ( either 11.5" or 12.5" width ) . but I may go with the 17x8 instead . appreciate the help
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I would also recommend the 17x8. However, just be aware that it has been reported that most all Pro Comp wheels are on national backorder with no ETA. Very, very few places have any in stock at all.
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I would also recommend the 17x8. However, just be aware that it has been reported that most all Pro Comp wheels are on national backorder with no ETA. Very, very few places have any in stock at all.
Hi, thanks. I appreciate the help. glad i asked, I was leaning toward the 9" width wheel. I seen they are on back order everywhere. Seems Like I either find the most expensive wheel or something that is difficult to locate...

my first choice was Rugged ridge and AEV, XD wheels all are too expensive...
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Hi, thanks. I appreciate the help. glad i asked, I was leaning toward the 9" width wheel. I seen they are on back order everywhere. Seems Like I either find the most expensive wheel or something that is difficult to locate...

my first choice was Rugged ridge and AEV, XD wheels all are too expensive...
Nothing wrong with a 17x9 wheel at all. Just make sure the backspacing is 4.5" or less. Have you considered going to a 16" wheel? Could potentially save you quite a bit of coin. You could look into the Level 8 Guardian or MB Torque, both of which have a pretty funky style. I've only seen the Guardian on 1 or 2 JKs. Definitely a unique wheel. And I've seen the Torques on a couple JKs, but they were polished and 18s I believe.
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Nothing wrong with a 17x9 wheel at all. Just make sure the backspacing is 4.5" or less. Have you considered going to a 16" wheel? Could potentially save you quite a bit of coin. You could look into the Level 8 Guardian or MB Torque, both of which have a pretty funky style. I've only seen the Guardian on 1 or 2 JKs. Definitely a unique wheel. And I've seen the Torques on a couple JKs, but they were polished and 18s I believe.
Hi, I will check those out. I found a 16,&17 in MB TKO - wheel they were less expensive and in stock, just not crazy about the center cap. I am checking with DT to see what it looks like without the bulky cap.

I thought you needed more BS, so if its a 9" wheel i would need less BS or zero offset. the procomps in 9" are all usually 4.75" BS - does that 3/4" make that much of a difference, will it just stick out too far past fenders
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Hi, I will check those out. I found a 16,&17 in MB TKO - wheel they were less expensive and in stock, just not crazy about the center cap. I am checking with DT to see what it looks like without the bulky cap.
DTD has confirmed that you can get a different center cap for the TKOs. They confirmed the part number in this post. Just keep in mind that, based on the DTD website anyway, the only offset available for the 16" & 17" TKOs is positive 18, which translates to 5.5" since both wheels are 8.5" wide. If you intend to run a wide tire like a 12.5", you would definitely have some rubbing issues.

That being said, there were some pics posted recently by texastechguy210 showing the 17" TKOs mounted in 285/70/17s, which are basically 11" wide. So, either they make a TKO with a lesser offset (and therefore backspace) and their website just doesn't reflect it, or the 285s work just fine.

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I thought you needed more BS, so if its a 9" wheel i would need less BS or zero offset.
0 offset on a 9" wheel would translate to 5" backspace. I would personally try to get to that 4.5" or less number, but if you only plan on running a semi-wide tire (11" or so), then the 5" backspace might work. I say might cause you still may need to trim your airdam or add washers to your steering stops. I have 285/75/16s on 4.5" backspaced 16"x8.5" wheels and I have no rubbing at all. I do have a leveling kit though, which helps a bit.

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the procomps in 9" are all usually 4.75" BS - does that 3/4" make that much of a difference, will it just stick out too far past fenders
Actually, the opposite. It will keep the wheel tucked up under the fender further. This causes the tire to be further under the fender as well, which is where you stand the possibility of running into rubbing issues on your airdam when turning.
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DTD has confirmed that you can get a different center cap for the TKOs. They confirmed the part number in this post. Just keep in mind that, based on the DTD website anyway, the only offset available for the 16" & 17" TKOs is positive 18, which translates to 5.5" since both wheels are 8.5" wide. If you intend to run a wide tire like a 12.5", you would definitely have some rubbing issues.

That being said, there were some pics posted recently by texastechguy210 showing the 17" TKOs mounted in 285/70/17s, which are basically 11" wide. So, either they make a TKO with a lesser offset (and therefore backspace) and their website just doesn't reflect it, or the 285s work just fine.


0 offset on a 9" wheel would translate to 5" backspace. I would personally try to get to that 4.5" or less number, but if you only plan on running a semi-wide tire (11" or so), then the 5" backspace might work. I say might cause you still may need to trim your airdam or add washers to your steering stops. I have 285/75/16s on 4.5" backspaced 16"x8.5" wheels and I have no rubbing at all. I do have a leveling kit though, which helps a bit.


Actually, the opposite. It will keep the wheel tucked up under the fender further. This causes the tire to be further under the fender as well, which is where you stand the possibility of running into rubbing issues on your airdam when turning.

^ thanks for the info, I believe the TKO in 16 and 17 - come in 2 different off-sets/ I do have a 2"AEV leveling kit on my Jeep. and plan on remonving the airdam, whne I chop the bumper in a few weeks ( VDP or RR stubby kit )

My intention is a 33/11.5/16 or 17 ( 285/70/17 ) or ( 285/75/16 )
If I have trouble locating the Procomps ( which it looks like ) I may end up with a MB wheel, I really wanted the Rugged Ridge, but at $200+ a wheel is a little high
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^ thanks for the info, I believe the TKO in 16 and 17 - come in 2 different off-sets/ I do have a 2"AEV leveling kit on my Jeep. and plan on remonving the airdam, whne I chop the bumper in a few weeks ( VDP or RR stubby kit )

My intention is a 33/11.5/16 or 17 ( 285/70/17 ) or ( 285/75/16 )
If I have trouble locating the Procomps ( which it looks like ) I may end up with a MB wheel, I really wanted the Rugged Ridge, but at $200+ a wheel is a little high
For me, it doesn't get any better than the 17" XD Addicts. Paired with some 295/70/17 Trail Grapplers is just about perfect in my book. But, that is a very expensive and very heavy setup. Only reason I didn't go that route myself.

My RC stubby kit will be here tomorrow. Not sure when I will get the time to do the chop though.

And, here is a pic to show how the 285/75/16 tires look on a wheel with 4.5" backspacing and the leveling kit.
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For me, it doesn't get any better than the 17" XD Addicts. Paired with some 295/70/17 Trail Grapplers is just about perfect in my book. But, that is a very expensive and very heavy setup. Only reason I didn't go that route myself.

My RC stubby kit will be here tomorrow. Not sure when I will get the time to do the chop though.

And, here is a pic to show how the 285/75/16 tires look on a wheel with 4.5" backspacing and the leveling kit.
Hi, thanks for the photo. Your Jeep looks awesome. what a difference a nice wheels makes... The XD-additics, and Crank wheels are nice and expensive too... I am going to stop back into DT and take the center cap off the TKO. I think the 16x8 or 17x8 in that style might stick out a little more than yours.. based on the Texas, photo's...
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Hi, thanks for the photo. Your Jeep looks awesome. what a difference a nice wheels makes... The XD-additics, and Crank wheels are nice and expensive too... I am going to stop back into DT and take the center cap off the TKO. I think the 16x8 or 17x8 in that style might stick out a little more than yours.. based on the Texas, photo's...
If they come with a different offset version than only that positive 18 that shows on the DTD site, then it is certainly possible that they stick out further than mine. But, if that +18 is the only offset available for the 16 & 17 wheels, then they will actually be a full inch further in than mine. Let us know what you find out.
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If they come with a different offset version than only that positive 18 that shows on the DTD site, then it is certainly possible that they stick out further than mine. But, if that +18 is the only offset available for the 16 & 17 wheels, then they will actually be a full inch further in than mine. Let us know what you find out.

I just checked with DT locally, only 1 offset +18 for either 17"or16" prices about the same too $112, or $122

tires for the duratracks are a little pricey too, I may do some more searching.
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I just checked with DT locally, only 1 offset +18 for either 17"or16" prices about the same too $112, or $122

tires for the duratracks are a little pricey too, I may do some more searching.
I was afraid of that. And, you are right about the price of the Duratracs. They definitely get up there as the size goes up. It is one of the reasons I went with the Falken Rocky Mountains. The DTs were going to be $70 more PER TIRE! That's $350 bucks. Plus, the DTs in the 285/75/16s are load range E while the Falkens are D range.

You could always go with the 15" TKOs and 33" DTs.
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I was afraid of that. And, you are right about the price of the Duratracs. They definitely get up there as the size goes up. It is one of the reasons I went with the Falken Rocky Mountains. The DTs were going to be $70 more PER TIRE! That's $350 bucks. Plus, the DTs in the 285/75/16s are load range E while the Falkens are D range.

You could always go with the 15" TKOs and 33" DTs.
15's I know- but not for me.. I have DT looking for photos of the TKO and the smaller cap on it.. I will have to compare one last time, and see..

thanks again for your input and help
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15's I know- but not for me.. I have DT looking for photos of the TKO and the smaller cap on it.. I will have to compare one last time, and see..

thanks again for your input and help
No problem. And good luck I'm your search. Keep us posted.
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You could always go with the 15" TKOs and 33" DTs.
Pleasure watching you work, dude.
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Thanks again for the HELP!.. I will let you know soon..
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just wanted to say- thanks for the help. now that I want and found the Procomp 7005 black wheel, several places I called are telling me 3+ months out before they come in... WTF...

I will be starting my search once again.... MB TKO ( not for me ) / procomp 7005 (out of stock til ... )

The other 2 wheels I really like, where I have located them either just have the wheel or tire, but not both.. except Quadratec -who cannot install them.. The dollar signs keep adding up, which I knew of course
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just wanted to say- thanks for the help. now that I want and found the Procomp 7005 black wheel, several places I called are telling me 3+ months out before they come in... WTF...

I will be starting my search once again.... MB TKO ( not for me ) / procomp 7005 (out of stock til ... )

The other 2 wheels I really like, where I have located them either just have the wheel or tire, but not both.. except Quadratec -who cannot install them.. The dollar signs keep adding up, which I knew of course
I wouldn't be too worried about making sure that you get the wheels and tires from the same place. If you find the wheels you want, order them! I would recommend getting your tires from Discount Tire Direct, since we get a $50 forum discount when purchasing 5 tires. And, no matter where you purchase the tires, you can always get the $100 mail in rebate on Goodyear tires (MTR-Ks, Duratracs, etc) if you are a member of treadlightly.org.

After you have received the tires and wheels, just take them up to your local Discount Tire, America's Tire, Jim-Bob's Fruit-N-Tire Shak, etc and have them mounted up. If you need the TPMS sensors moved from your stock wheels, they can handle that as well. Of course, you will have to pay for the mounting, balancing, etc, but it sounds like this is the best way to go for you.

Which wheels and tires are you looking for specifically? I can see if I can use my google-fu and find some decent deals or discounts.
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I wouldn't be too worried about making sure that you get the wheels and tires from the same place. If you find the wheels you want, order them! I would recommend getting your tires from Discount Tire Direct, since we get a $50 forum discount when purchasing 5 tires. And, no matter where you purchase the tires, you can always get the $100 mail in rebate on Goodyear tires (MTR-Ks, Duratracs, etc) if you are a member of treadlightly.org.

After you have received the tires and wheels, just take them up to your local Discount Tire, America's Tire, Jim-Bob's Fruit-N-Tire Shak, etc and have them mounted up. If you need the TPMS sensors moved from your stock wheels, they can handle that as well. Of course, you will have to pay for the mounting, balancing, etc, but it sounds like this is the best way to go for you.

Which wheels and tires are you looking for specifically? I can see if I can use my google-fu and find some decent deals or discounts.
Since I have been trying to find everything done at one store which hasn;t worked..

I origionally wanted the 7005 procomp. with those out.
these are what I am starting to look for.
Rugged ridge 17x9 black satin
Dick Cepek DC-2 17x9
( just seen a new ultra-wheel, Crusher black or black/machine)

tire- prefer 285/70/17 over the 33/12.5/17
GY-DT, or Dick Cepek F-C II
since both are a all-terrain hybrid type wheel (not like the stock highway tire)

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