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Old 08-25-2013, 07:48 PM   #31
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Lol...OK. That makes snese.

I just looked up 315/70/17 on TireRack and it says 34.4 inches for a Duratrac.
Agree. Some mfg are slightly different. A buddy has Duratrac. He loves them.
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OK, so I think I have the tires sorted out and have decided on a 17" rim. (17" tires are really not that much more. It's the jump from a 15" tire to a 16" tire when they get more pricey. The difference I found from 16 to 17 was about $9 per tire.)

I guess I should base rim width on the tire size, no?

And...backspacing. What's the proper backspacing I'd need for a 315/70/17? I've seen 4.5, 4.7, and 5.2...

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17X___ width with a ??? ___ backspace?
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OK, so I think I have the tires sorted out and have decided on a 17" rim. (17" tires are really not that much more. It's the jump from a 15" tire to a 16" tire when they get more pricey. The difference I found from 16 to 17 was about $9 per tire.)

I guess I should base rim width on the tire size, no?

And...backspacing. What's the proper backspacing I'd need for a 315/70/17? I've seen 4.5, 4.7, and 5.2...

I'm trying to fill in the blanks so when I call DTD I know what I'm looking for. -

17X___ width with a ??? ___ backspace?
Dt will know what you need. Contact them here on the forum first. Work a deal with them. I was given a higher quote on the phone talking to another salesman. He then got ahold of Matt or Travis here and confirmed what I was quoted.

Most tires on our jeeps are 12.5 in width so a 8" wheel will work the best. Just know some manufactures say otherwise. (8.5-9" min)
A 8" wheel will hold the beed better while aired down. 4.5 or less backspace is what is recommended. Not saying 4.7 or even 5.2 won't work. AEV wheels have a higher back space keeping the tire more under the flare. With more backspace you run the risk of rubbing if anything.

Just contact Matt or Travis on the forum and they will help.
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:39 AM   #35
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Dt will know what you need. Contact them here on the forum first. Work a deal with them. I was given a higher quote on the phone talking to another salesman. He then got ahold of Matt or Travis here and confirmed what I was quoted.

Most tires on our jeeps are 12.5 in width so a 8" wheel will work the best. Just know some manufactures say otherwise. (8.5-9" min)
A 8" wheel will hold the beed better while aired down. 4.5 or less backspace is what is recommended. Not saying 4.7 or even 5.2 won't work. AEV wheels have a higher back space keeping the tire more under the flare. With more backspace you run the risk of rubbing if anything.

Just contact Matt or Travis on the forum and they will help.
Thanks! I'll look them up and talk to one of them.
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I realize he said he didn't want a 15....but he seemed more concerned about his budget than anything so again, my advice is go with 15s. They are NOT heavier, they are lighter. Much lighter. This goes for the tires also. And they are wayyyyy cheaper. 16s are the worst choice because most tires are LT D or LT E and those will be very heavy. 17s and beyond are not a good choice either because then you're spending a ton of cash.

So yes, my reading skills are great and he is working with a tight budget and 15s would be best for him.

As for the BFG "wearing well".. The Cooper and Toyo have warranties up to 65,000 miles and they cost hundreds of dollars less per set. How is it possibly more cost effective to buy BFGs??
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I realize he said he didn't want a 15....but he seemed more concerned about his budget than anything so again, my advice is go with 15s. They are NOT heavier, they are lighter. Much lighter. This goes for the tires also. And they are wayyyyy cheaper. 16s are the worst choice because most tires are LT D or LT E and those will be very heavy. 17s and beyond are not a good choice either because then you're spending a ton of cash.

So yes, my reading skills are great and he is working with a tight budget and 15s would be best for him.

As for the BFG "wearing well".. The Cooper and Toyo have warranties up to 65,000 miles and they cost hundreds of dollars less per set. How is it possibly more cost effective to buy BFGs??
Not sure which part of him not wanting 15's is hard to understand ?
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:26 AM   #38
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Guys, I can appreciate your contributions to this thread.

The main reason I don't want 15's is simple - too much sidewall for my taste. Additionally, I've read in numerous places that a 35" tire on a 15 inch rim weighs more than a 35" tire on a 17 inch rim. Is that true? I'm not sure and don't think anyone can be completely certain as tire weights vary quite a bit between manufacturers.

Yes, 15's are more budget friendly. I think we all can agree with that. But after listening to opinions here and doing my own research, talking to numerous people running different set up, I've decided on a 17" wheel. Yes, it's a little more "spendy" but still not out of reach completely (hoping for some good O/T this week - LOL!).

Hankook MT's HERE or their AT's HERE will be the tires I run on (both load range D)these 17X8.5 rims.
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No it's not always true. Im sure it depends on the tire.
The 35x12.5x15 KM2 I ran before these was one of the lighter combo's.
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No it's not always true. Im sure it depends on the tire.
The 35x12.5x15 KM2 I ran before these was one of the lighter combo's.
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I came in on this thread because I have spent hours today looking for wheels. 17's to be exact. And tires to match, 33's or so...I ended up using this table for help in tire size (and pics on the forums) and have decided I want 305/70, which is almost 34's. Hope this little chart helps the OP
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Now...rims on a budget. I had a style in mind, so if you dont like these, I get it. But they look good, and I have read good things about them:
Raceline Assault - $146
Procomp - just about any of them are $150 or so
Method Standard - $156
Rev Offroad Assault - $135
Tuff (T01 or T03) - $156

Now, I have about 4 more on my list I am picking from, but they are $225+ per wheel.

Just my 2 cents...
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The dealer I bought my new jk at is putting bfg 315/70/17 on it after they do the 3" lift. He said it wont be a problem even with the stock wheels. We'll see!
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The dealer I bought my new jk at is putting bfg 315/70/17 on it after they do the 3" lift. He said it wont be a problem even with the stock wheels. We'll see!
Uh oh, I see a lot of rubbing in your future.
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315/70s on stock wheels? Holy crap. That's going to look and wear horribly on a 7.5" wheel and could potentially be a little dangerous too...and that's in addition to destroying the inside of your wheel wells, fender liners, etc. Not a good idea at all.
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315/70s on stock wheels? Holy crap. That's going to look and wear horribly on a 7.5" wheel and could potentially be a little dangerous too...and that's in addition to destroying the inside of your wheel wells, fender liners, etc. Not a good idea at all.
My thoughts exactly. 7.5" width with a 315/70 is not a good mix...while some say it's "OK", personally, I'd rather not. Spacers may save the inside of your fenders and give you enough backspacing...but still...7.5" with a 35x12.5 tire.

Keep in mind, the "dealer" will tell you just about anything to make a sale/upset accessories.
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The good part is that the dealership owner is friends of ours so he won't let it go if it isn't right. So how wide a wheel would be reccomended? Should spacers also be used?
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8.5" is what I've seen recommended for wheel width when running a 315/70 tire. Keep in mind, the tire is going to be right about 12.5" wide.

Since you're lifting it too, I don't know if spacers would be needed or not, but I would think so since the wheel doesn't have the 4.5" backspacing that you'll need. I'm no expert on that though so maybe someone else will chime in with a more solid answer.
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Well, since I started this thread, several things have gone on delaying my final decision...but they've been ordered!

Once BrownSanta shows up (Friday, I think), I'll post up some pics and specs of what I decided to go with.

I'll tell you though, with the help from you guys and Matt (here on WF) at Discount Tire Direct (and Bruce Ili at their office who helped as well), I'd still be trying to sort this all out so I appreciate all of your input!
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Well, here's what I wound up with. Budget friendly? Ehhh...not bad considering everything. A little under $2K delivered.

Fortunately, I had a few other positive things happen so I could spend a little more than I originally budgeted.

17x8.5 Level 8 Trackers wrapped in 295/70 Nitto Trail Grappler M/T's -




It is the perfect set up for my needs and how I wheel!

Thanks to all who contributed and again to DTD for great service! My only complaint - the tires were aired up to 80 PSI!!! WTH? I dropped them to 45 and think they need to be lower still, so I'll try 35 or so and go from there.
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